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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 8, 2021 11:45:57 GMT -5
Hate to say it but today's game was predictable. The best high leverage relievers weren't available so the worst thing that could happen was losing another close game, but fortunately E-Rod saw to it that the game wasn't close. For a guy whose FIP is so good, why the hell does he give up so many damn runs? They needed a strong start by him and instead he sucked. I was busy with other stuff but when I finally got a chance to sit down I thought to myself, I bet it's 6-1 TB. Flicked the TV on and it was 7-1 TB. Peacock was brutal to watch. The guy's ERA was 7 in AAA and it's not hard to see why that was. I'd say he's cooked. Feliz gave up 2 HRs. But Bobby D looked great again. I think that soxfansince67 has a point. Perhaps they should sit down JDM instead of Dalbec, while Dalbec is blazing hot as crazy as that sounds. I mean JDM hasn't been great since May, but it's hard to imagine that I'd ever sit him down in favor of Dalbec but for the time being....Schwarber at DH and Dalbec at 1b with Kiké in CF and Arroyo at 2b when he's back. It's almost like Dalbec has a lot of JBJ in him. When JBJ was cold he was awful for brutally long stretches but when he did heat up, he was scorching hot. Dalbec has been that. Terrible for 4 months and awesome ever since. I'd like to think that this is Dalbec, a guy who figured it all out, but I kept saying the same thing about JBJ and then he'd go into the tank for a few months. I suspect that's Dalbec, too. But the guy is hitting so he needs to play until he's not. Beyond that all I can say is that the half game that separates the Sox from the Yanks feels a lot larger than the 2 games (even in the loss column) that separates the Sox from the Jays and the 2.5 games from the Mariners and A's. It's scary but I'm looking at the schedule expecting the Sox to get swept at Fenway with their top 3 starters going - they really, really needed to win that first game. They'll probably lose 4 of 6 if not worse on the road as they play a good White Sox team and never really do well on the West Coast. So if they lose 5 of their next 7, somebody or everybody will catch them. They are in a precarious spot and it shouldn't be as precarious as it is - they had a 4 game lead just a few days ago and lost two winnable games to Cleveland and TB. I thought they'd make the wild card game. With each passing day I grow more unsure of that. JBJ would be happy to see the Mendoza line. He hasn't been above it the whole year.
It is possible that JBJ is washed up. It happens. I thought of all the people that were coming up to be extended, he was always the easiest to let go. I loved his defense. He's as good a CF as I've ever seen defensively on the Sox, but in time that ability lessens and a CF goes to a corner OF position where the offense bar is higher and I didn't really see JBJ being able to succeed there. JBJ and Dalbec are completely different hitters so I wasn't trying to compare that as much as I was saying with JBJ, he'd go into these long, long batting funks and you'd get to the point we're short of his amazing defense, you're wondering if he's even a major leaguer, and then suddenly he'd get blazing hot - I still can't believe that JBJ of all people owns a 29 game hitting streak, one of the longest in Sox history - and then you start to think to yourself, JBJ is putting it together offensively. No reason why he can't be really good next season....and then he goes ice cold and you repeat the cycle. With Dalbec he was so bad for so long I started to wonder if he should even be in the majors. He doesn't have his defense to fall back on like JBJ does, and now he looks so damn good at the plate, how can you not dream of him whacking 40 HRs and keeping a reasonable OBP and curtailing his strikeouts enough to do so? But I have to wonder - is he simply a guy on an incredible hot streak or are we seeing a maturing Dalbec who can put together a full season of productivity? I know the answer is guys have good streaks and guys have bad streaks, but at some point guys either get to a higher level of being productive or they fall back toward the lower end. I suspect the Ks will continue and it will keep Dalbec a mega-streaky hitter, but we'll see. I'm hoping he can at least keep it going the rest of the season. I mean, it was broached here that perhaps JDM should hit the bench so that Schwarber DHs and Dalbec remains at 1b with Verdugo in LF, Kiké in CF, etc..... I kind of scoffed at first, but now....I don't think it's a crazy idea anymore. I never though I'd consider a scenario where Dalbec plays over JDM, but I guess Dalbec is forcing them to consider that idea.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 8, 2021 12:02:54 GMT -5
JBJ would be happy to see the Mendoza line. He hasn't been above it the whole year.
It is possible that JBJ is washed up. It happens. I thought of all the people that were coming up to be extended, he was always the easiest to let go. I loved his defense. He's as good a CF as I've ever seen defensively on the Sox, but in time that ability lessens and a CF goes to a corner OF position where the offense bar is higher and I didn't really see JBJ being able to succeed there. JBJ and Dalbec are completely different hitters so I wasn't trying to compare that as much as I was saying with JBJ, he'd go into these long, long batting funks and you'd get to the point we're short of his amazing defense, you're wondering if he's even a major leaguer, and then suddenly he'd get blazing hot - I still can't believe that JBJ of all people owns a 29 game hitting streak, one of the longest in Sox history - and then you start to think to yourself, JBJ is putting it together offensively. No reason why he can't be really good next season....and then he goes ice cold and you repeat the cycle. With Dalbec he was so bad for so long I started to wonder if he should even be in the majors. He doesn't have his defense to fall back on like JBJ does, and now he looks so damn good at the plate, how can you not dream of him whacking 40 HRs and keeping a reasonable OBP and curtailing his strikeouts enough to do so? But I have to wonder - is he simply a guy on an incredible hot streak or are we seeing a maturing Dalbec who can put together a full season of productivity?I know the answer is guys have good streaks and guys have bad streaks, but at some point guys either get to a higher level of being productive or they fall back toward the lower end. I suspect the Ks will continue and it will keep Dalbec a mega-streaky hitter, but we'll see. I'm hoping he can at least keep it going the rest of the season. I mean, it was broached here that perhaps JDM should hit the bench so that Schwarber DHs and Dalbec remains at 1b with Verdugo in LF, Kiké in CF, etc..... I kind of scoffed at first, but now....I don't think it's a crazy idea anymore. I never though I'd consider a scenario where Dalbec plays over JDM, but I guess Dalbec is forcing them to consider that idea. The thing that has me pretty optimistic about Dalbec at the moment is that his struggles line up perfectly with what you'd expect from a guy trying to adjust to the majors after the league has adjusted to him. Basically he stunk between career PAs 200-400, just like Bogaerts, who hit .161/.206/.254 in 268 PAs in June-August 2014. Or even Betts, who hit .234/.293/.366 through mid-June or so in 2015. Dalbec was really no worse than either of them at his nadir! (Albeit without providing any defensive value, unlike those two.)
So now here he is, putting together what might just be a hot streak, but if so it's the longest hot streak of his career - going on 6 weeks now - and it just so happens to be coming right around the time successful major leaguers tend to prove that they can succeed...
(P.S. Is this a reason for optimism re: Duran, since he still has plenty of time to prove himself, or a reason for pessimism, since he didn't even manage the initial blush of success that all of the above did prior to the league's adjustments?)
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Post by julyanmorley on Sept 8, 2021 13:55:58 GMT -5
Red Sox legend Marwin Gonzalez just hit a two run home run against the Mariners for us
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Post by fanofredsox on Sept 8, 2021 14:04:38 GMT -5
Verdugo & Schwarber on the bench tonight?
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Post by fanofredsox on Sept 8, 2021 14:08:47 GMT -5
Shane McClanahan LHP 9-5, 3.76 ERA, 125 SO
Nathan Eovaldi RHP 10-8, 3.73 ERA, 163 SO
TB Lineup
B Lowe (L) 2B W Franco (S) SS N Cruz (R) DH A Meadows (L) LF J Choi (L) 1B M Margot (R) CF J Wendle (L) 3B J Lowe (L) RF M Zunino (R) C
Bos Lineup
K Hernández (R) CF H Renfroe (R) RF J Martinez (R) DH R Devers (L) 3B B Dalbec (R) 1B K Plawecki (R) C D Santana (S) LF J Iglesias (R) SS J Araúz (S) 2B
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Post by fanofredsox on Sept 8, 2021 14:11:54 GMT -5
I can see Verdugo (I guess) but Santana over Schwarber?
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Post by cdj on Sept 8, 2021 14:33:16 GMT -5
Well, we’ll be able to ambush the Rays in big spots with pinch hitters when one of our replacement guys is inevitably up with 2 on and 1 out
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 8, 2021 14:58:24 GMT -5
If we end up losing a playoff spot to the Mariners, that would highlight this year wasn’t meant to be. They haven’t made it in 20 years after all…
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Post by widewordofsport on Sept 8, 2021 15:07:49 GMT -5
If Schwarber out its gotta either be some crazy split, he needs a rest day after rushing back from injury, or a trip to the Covid list...
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Post by cdj on Sept 8, 2021 15:28:55 GMT -5
Did the game the other night kill Stats? I notice he hasn’t tweeted since
That game damn near broke me
Time to salvage a series. Going 4-1-1 in 6 series isn’t that bad if we don’t get swept
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 8, 2021 15:30:51 GMT -5
If we end up losing a playoff spot to the Mariners, that would highlight this year wasn’t meant to be. They haven’t made it in 20 years after all… They're 75-64 and should be the opposite as they've been badly outscored and resemble a 64-75 team. That 11 game disparity is huge. The Sox have been "overachieving" by about 4 games all season long. I was looking at discrepancies between pythag records and actual records. The "overachievers" include the Sox by about 4 games, and the Yankees by about 5 games. The Astros have "underachieved" by about 5 games and the Jays by about 7 games. The Jays should be about 18 games better than the Mariners! Yet they're about a game difference. And TB...they're legit.
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Post by julyanmorley on Sept 8, 2021 15:41:05 GMT -5
According to the Fangraphs playoffs odds thing, the AL West teams are nearing death, and it's just the Blue Jays/Yankees worth sweating.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Sept 8, 2021 18:07:57 GMT -5
I thought Franchy just went back down. They brought him back up today?
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Post by congusgambler33 on Sept 8, 2021 18:09:00 GMT -5
they just activated Franchy today..in Worcester.
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Post by cheers on Sept 8, 2021 18:10:08 GMT -5
I thought Franchy just went back down. They brought him back up today? So says the SP Transactions board. I don't see a corresponding roster move... Edit: The recent string of errors seems to have impacted my reading comprehension. Apologies.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 8, 2021 18:14:23 GMT -5
we should just walk Lowe.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 8, 2021 18:27:43 GMT -5
RISP 0-1. LOB 2.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 8, 2021 18:29:52 GMT -5
Ellis quote 1."Raffi's playing baseball".
and listen for the many "I tell ya what"s
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Post by julyanmorley on Sept 8, 2021 18:41:18 GMT -5
Don't think I can take multiple seasons of Ellis Burks talking about his 2004 run
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 8, 2021 18:42:45 GMT -5
DOB and Ellis are reaching new depths in inane prattle. Even my dogs are covering their ears.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 8, 2021 18:43:32 GMT -5
RISP 0-3 (including an embarrassing strike out by Iglesias), LOB 3
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 8, 2021 18:50:30 GMT -5
If we end up losing a playoff spot to the Mariners, that would highlight this year wasn’t meant to be. They haven’t made it in 20 years after all… They're 75-64 and should be the opposite as they've been badly outscored and resemble a 64-75 team. That 11 game disparity is huge. The Sox have been "overachieving" by about 4 games all season long. I was looking at discrepancies between pythag records and actual records. The "overachievers" include the Sox by about 4 games, and the Yankees by about 5 games. The Astros have "underachieved" by about 5 games and the Jays by about 7 games. The Jays should be about 18 games better than the Mariners! Yet they're about a game difference. And TB...they're legit. Toronto has the best rotation in the division and their lineup with Springer is elite, their bullpen is sooo bad though. I don’t know how they could justify getting rid of Payamps…I wonder how much losing Loaisiga impacts the Yankees in close games
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 8, 2021 18:52:35 GMT -5
No way another CF on this team catches that, probably a triple with Verdugo there
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Sept 8, 2021 19:00:00 GMT -5
No way another CF on this team catches that, probably a triple with Verdugo there Hernandez should be in CF every game he plays! He is wasted at 2B....another way of saying it....Hernandez should be the Red Sox regular CF.
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 8, 2021 19:02:53 GMT -5
JD with warning track pop. Really looked like he got all of it, but only 100 EV
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