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Post by philarhody on Oct 17, 2021 16:30:13 GMT -5
Geez, that penalty on Ferentz followed by Cajuste getting blown by are brutal. Mac got murdered. Offensive line continues to be the issue
When he has time, Mac Jones is very very good.
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 17, 2021 16:55:41 GMT -5
This has been a crazy game.
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Post by cdj on Oct 17, 2021 16:58:42 GMT -5
Bill is playing coward ball this season
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 17, 2021 17:22:01 GMT -5
Wow, take out Stevenson so we can bring in Bolden on third and one. Brilliant!
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Post by cdj on Oct 17, 2021 17:34:20 GMT -5
Fire all the coaches into the sun
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 17, 2021 17:49:17 GMT -5
Josh McDaniels needs to go… I’m starting to rethink if Cam was really the main issue with our passing offense last season.
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 17, 2021 17:49:17 GMT -5
Pats need to get back to some blitzing, the rush isn't getting there, too tired.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 17, 2021 17:55:05 GMT -5
Josh McDaniels needs to go… I’m starting to rethink if Cam was really the main issue with our passing offense last season. And all other NFL teams didn't think of that? Mac Jones looks 10 times better than Newton last year. |
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 17, 2021 18:15:28 GMT -5
That 3rd and 12 with 3:30 left was a delay of game.
Probably helped that they didn't call it!
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 17, 2021 18:19:05 GMT -5
Are you f'ing kidding me!
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 17, 2021 18:22:07 GMT -5
Are you f'ing kidding me!!!!!
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 17, 2021 18:25:38 GMT -5
McDaniels calling for a double move on Diggs is pretty damn smart one play later.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 17, 2021 18:27:51 GMT -5
Just a crazy game!
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 17, 2021 18:43:25 GMT -5
That Agholor drop in OT is what I hate about him. He did that 100 times for the Eagles.
And the missed call on the pass interference where the guy pulled his facemask and turned his head was infuriating.
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 17, 2021 19:16:45 GMT -5
Are you f'ing kidding me!!!!! Their were more of those moments in that game than I have ever seen, for both teams. One highly unlikely play after another all game. |
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Post by cdj on Oct 17, 2021 20:33:29 GMT -5
Belichick is the primary culprit for that loss. Played total coward ball
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Post by foreverred9 on Oct 17, 2021 21:29:01 GMT -5
Hightower seems to have lost a step as well, he can't plug the hole like he used to and he's getting caught up in the traffic while going lateral. Too many runs by Zeke for 5-10 yards that I think a younger Hightower would have made.
The o-line has been my major frustration point (let's not forget the sequence of the Myers TD that turned into Mac getting obliterated) but I'm almost beginning to wonder about the D not being good enough.
But on the plus side, Mac looked good and seems poised out there. We're not losing games because of the quarterback play.
Are we a good bad team or a bad good team?
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Post by beasleyrockah on Oct 17, 2021 22:18:41 GMT -5
Belichick is the primary culprit for that loss. Played total coward ball It's nothing new either, he's turned into one of those coaches we used to mock for playing not to lose. This team isn't good enough to play ultra conservative and beat teams like Dallas or Tampa. They also make a ton of unforced errors, it's not like they have a team that doesn't turn the ball over and can afford to play it safe and wait for the other team to screw up…they're the team that screws up right now. Dallas made a ton of mistakes and had so many penalties, and they still couldn't capitalize enough. Bill is coaching like it's 2003 and his team has a better roster than the opposition. |
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Post by rjw on Oct 18, 2021 7:14:02 GMT -5
The overall lack of team speed is a bit of a problem also, especially on defense. The linebackers are unable to cover anybody and the DBs always seem to be a step behind the receivers. I would also like to see a fast receiver that can actually catch a ball. If only Jacoby could make a deal with the devil to acquire more speed he could be a superstar.
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Post by cdj on Oct 18, 2021 7:25:01 GMT -5
Hightower seems to have lost a step as well, he can't plug the hole like he used to and he's getting caught up in the traffic while going lateral. Too many runs by Zeke for 5-10 yards that I think a younger Hightower would have made. The o-line has been my major frustration point (let's not forget the sequence of the Myers TD that turned into Mac getting obliterated) but I'm almost beginning to wonder about the D not being good enough. But on the plus side, Mac looked good and seems poised out there. We're not losing games because of the quarterback play. Are we a good bad team or a bad good team? Imo Hightower has been better the last few weeks. Run defense was very good except for that one big run by Zeke towards the end They are a bad bad team, they making losing plays and have a coward of a coach that compounds issues Imagine playing not to lose knowing you have a team that constantly shoots itself in the foot when you do that. Moronic. |
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Post by cdj on Oct 18, 2021 8:54:23 GMT -5
So I think we have to start having a conversation about Belichick
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 18, 2021 9:27:42 GMT -5
Belichick is the primary culprit for that loss. Played total coward ball It's a brutal loss, a common theme this year. Yet how in the world did he just play not to lose? He didn't run it three times when he was ahead. I was calling for him to trust Mac Jones and end the game. The rookie made a bad throw that turned into a disaster pick six. Mac Jones has been great, he's just a rookie. If anything I think we have all overlooked that fact. |
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Post by cdj on Oct 18, 2021 9:45:51 GMT -5
Belichick is the primary culprit for that loss. Played total coward ball It's a brutal loss, a common theme this year. Yet how in the world did he just play not to lose? He didn't run it three times when he was ahead. I was calling for him to trust Mac Jones and end the game. The rookie made a bad throw that turned into a disaster pick six. Mac Jones has been great, he's just a rookie. If anything I think we have all overlooked that fact. For example, this huge instance of coward ball. Defense has allowed over 500 yards of offense and hasn’t made a stop all half. They’ve suffered a bunch of injuries. They’re gassed. You have a chance to win and you basically forfeit the game by punting the ball away there. He kneels out clocks instead of going for field goals. This team is not good enough to win games taking chances in situations like this, especially against good football teams I thought Mac was fantastic aside from the one terrible mistake. And I’m happy they were throwing there too. But also I’d say they were forced into a must-throw situation when Bill didn’t call a TO and they took that 5 yard penalty |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 18, 2021 11:09:55 GMT -5
It's a brutal loss, a common theme this year. Yet how in the world did he just play not to lose? He didn't run it three times when he was ahead. I was calling for him to trust Mac Jones and end the game. The rookie made a bad throw that turned into a disaster pick six. Mac Jones has been great, he's just a rookie. If anything I think we have all overlooked that fact. For example, this huge instance of coward ball. Defense has allowed over 500 yards of offense and hasn’t made a stop all half. They’ve suffered a bunch of injuries. They’re gassed. You have a chance to win and you basically forfeit the game by punting the ball away there. He kneels out clocks instead of going for field goals. This team is not good enough to win games taking chances in situations like this, especially against good football teams I thought Mac was fantastic aside from the one terrible mistake. And I’m happy they were throwing there too. But also I’d say they were forced into a must-throw situation when Bill didn’t call a TO and they took that 5 yard penalty So you want Bill to act like he doesn't have a rookie QB and treat him like his Brady? I would 100% agree with you if we didn't have a rookie QB. You blame Bill for that Penalty, yet it's Mac Jones fault. He should have called the timeout. I counted at least two other times he could have been called for delay of game. He's a rookie, we have a ton of new players and our running a totally different offense. With a rookie QB! They have expanded the playbook and in doing that you get some more mistakes. What you see as being a coward, I see Bill teaching Mac Jones to play the right way and not asking too much of him. End of half, what if Mac Jones throws a pick six? What if you get another sack fumble? I get it, you question everything in a close loss. Yet we have a rookie QB, you can't treat him like he's post 2007 Brady yet. You are questioning Bill, yet this season has just reaffirmed by belief in how good he is. Were just a year away. The fact we can almost beat elite teams like the Bucs and Cowboys is a huge win for me. We aren't as talented as those teams with experienced crazy good QBs with better weapons. I give Mac Jones an A++++ so far. My issue was thinking he could be Brady his first year, yet Brady had an extra year plus before he started. As Brilliant as he's been he's still a rookie learning maybe the most complex offense in the league. It sucks because by the time this team gels its going to be too late. I just don’t get blaming Bill. I'd much rather this than watching Mac Jones lose confidence because you are asking too much of a rookie QB. I truly feel Bill has been darn near perfect in how he's handled Mac Jones. |
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Post by cdj on Oct 18, 2021 11:27:19 GMT -5
For example, this huge instance of coward ball. Defense has allowed over 500 yards of offense and hasn’t made a stop all half. They’ve suffered a bunch of injuries. They’re gassed. You have a chance to win and you basically forfeit the game by punting the ball away there. He kneels out clocks instead of going for field goals. This team is not good enough to win games taking chances in situations like this, especially against good football teams I thought Mac was fantastic aside from the one terrible mistake. And I’m happy they were throwing there too. But also I’d say they were forced into a must-throw situation when Bill didn’t call a TO and they took that 5 yard penalty So you want Bill to act like he doesn't have a rookie QB and treat him like his Brady? I would 100% agree with you if we didn't have a rookie QB. You blame Bill for that Penalty, yet it's Mac Jones fault. He should have called the timeout. I counted at least two other times he could have been called for delay of game. He's a rookie, we have a ton of new players and our running a totally different offense. With a rookie QB! They have expanded the playbook and in doing that you get some more mistakes. What you see as being a coward, I see Bill teaching Mac Jones to play the right way and not asking too much of him. End of half, what if Mac Jones throws a pick six? What if you get another sack fumble? I get it, you question everything in a close loss. Yet we have a rookie QB, you can't treat him like he's post 2007 Brady yet. You are questioning Bill, yet this season has just reaffirmed by belief in how good he is. Were just a year away. The fact we can almost beat elite teams like the Bucs and Cowboys is a huge win for me. We aren't as talented as those teams with experienced crazy good QBs with better weapons. I give Mac Jones an A++++ so far. My issue was thinking he could be Brady his first year, yet Brady had an extra year plus before he started. As Brilliant as he's been he's still a rookie learning maybe the most complex offense in the league. It sucks because by the time this team gels its going to be too late. I just don’t get blaming Bill. I'd much rather this than watching Mac Jones lose confidence because you are asking too much of a rookie QB. I truly feel Bill has been darn near perfect in how he's handled Mac Jones. I just don’t think we’re going to see eye to eye if you think that OT punt and some of the decisions he’s made have been great coaching. He is dead last in taking chances by more than double on the 2nd to last team. That is WAY too conservative for a team that wants to win games and has the ability to win games. It’s self-inflicted injuries and coward ball that is losing games, not talent. We can say Mac is a rookie but he’s playing well enough to win football games. I would rather him lose a game and learn a lesson than lose a game because the coach is a coward and punts on a chance to win on 4th and 3 at midfield in OT with a gassed defense that couldn’t stop a thing in the 2nd half They’re playing the kind of football we always made fun of opposing bad coaches for playing against us |
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