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Post by saltalamacchia4mvp on Oct 19, 2021 13:06:53 GMT -5
Think the Astros are going to come out with fire today - hopefully, Pivetta can weather the storm and we can get an early lead.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 19, 2021 13:15:34 GMT -5
Not even a DD / Chaim "mini" debate derailed the board. That says something about how good people feel right now. LOL.
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Post by trajanacc on Oct 19, 2021 13:15:46 GMT -5
Totally agree with this. But another way to say this is: "momentum" is a terrible metaphor. A freight train in motion has a lot of momentum, which means precisely that it doesn't just up and reverse direction. Remember late in the season when the Yankees had all the momentum, and then the Blue Jays did? But the switch just flipped on both of them. Meanwhile, the Red Sox were getting swept by the Yankees and losing a series in Baltimore before limping into the playoffs...
This series *feels* like a runaway freight train right now. But if the Astros win tonight it's suddenly a tied series and they have home field advantage. Always walking the knife's edge in the playoffs...
Though to argue with myself a bit: what I hope is going on is that the Astros are having a serious morale problem, between their pitching debacle and the Sox' offensive explosions. With these three games in a row, maybe things are moving a little too quickly for them, the Fenway crowd gets to them, they'll start to press on both sides, and before you know it their season will be over before they even make it out of Boston. That scenario would lend a bit of credence to the momentum metaphor... "momentum" is the worst, most overused phrase in sports, and believing in it is the root cause of 90% of idiotic comments people make about sports.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 19, 2021 13:17:25 GMT -5
my favorite part of last night was Schwarber's home run. Swinging on a 3-0 and hitting a grand slam. That doesn't happen to often, I imagine, particularly in a playoff game.
It is basically saying, "This is my plate and I am here to destroy"
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 19, 2021 13:23:49 GMT -5
Anyone else noticed how much younger the Red Sox crowd is than it used to be? Any guesses as to why?
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 19, 2021 13:24:22 GMT -5
You gotta love having the momentum. In a way, this sudden turn to power and the ability to take games over reminds me of 2004 when we could not lose after having first dropped three straight to the MFYs. But momentum is a fleeting thing. It only takes one good pitching performance by THEM or one lousy start by US to see our momentum gone off into the ether. Are the odds on this game truly "pick 'em"? They are as far as I am concerned. At the very least, we need to win one of the next two or we go back to the Texas in a deep pickle. Totally agree with this. But another way to say this is: "momentum" is a terrible metaphor. A freight train in motion has a lot of momentum, which means precisely that it doesn't just up and reverse direction. Remember late in the season when the Yankees had all the momentum, and then the Blue Jays did? But the switch just flipped on both of them. Meanwhile, the Red Sox were getting swept by the Yankees and losing a series in Baltimore before limping into the playoffs...
This series *feels* like a runaway freight train right now. But if the Astros win tonight it's suddenly a tied series and they have home field advantage. Always walking the knife's edge in the playoffs...
It's not the momentum as much as it is that the Astros have a completely decimated pitching staff.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 19, 2021 13:26:09 GMT -5
Anyone else noticed how much younger the Red Sox crowd is than it used to be? Any guesses as to why? So many older fans gave up their season tickets due to COVID and the missed season.
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 19, 2021 13:35:09 GMT -5
Though to argue with myself a bit: what I hope is going on is that the Astros are having a serious morale problem, between their pitching debacle and the Sox' offensive explosions. With these three games in a row, maybe things are moving a little too quickly for them, the Fenway crowd gets to them, they'll start to press on both sides, and before you know it their season will be over before they even make it out of Boston. That scenario would lend a bit of credence to the momentum metaphor... "momentum" is the worst, most overused phrase in sports, and believing in it is the root cause of 90% of idiotic comments people make about sports. Momentum plays a big part in confidence and confidence is one of the most important aspects of playing a sport. Success breeds success, failure leads to doubt.
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Post by saltalamacchia4mvp on Oct 19, 2021 13:38:21 GMT -5
"momentum" is the worst, most overused phrase in sports, and believing in it is the root cause of 90% of idiotic comments people make about sports. Momentum plays a big part in confidence and confidence is one of the most important aspects of playing a sport. Success breeds success, failure leads to doubt. Success breeds confidence and it's a very confident bunch right now.
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Post by GyIantosca on Oct 19, 2021 14:17:19 GMT -5
the older people have the expensive seats.The Kids fill out the rest of the stadium.
All credit to DD but if Chaim was hired when DD was hired I think he woulda did the same excellent job he is doing now. With DD we saw how far he took us. With Chaim its starting of course he has to get his title.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Oct 19, 2021 14:29:03 GMT -5
Greinke is a long shot to be any good. Obviously he has a great history and anything can happen but he has been terrible to the tune of a 11+ era to end the season. And he is not overpowering to say the least so the Sox will be sitting on offspeed stuff. I don't want to be overly confident as a Sox fan but if I am a Stros fan I am not looking forward to tonight. Love seeing Altuves D leading to Sox runs. Time for him and the Stros to pay the price for the electronic cheating. The whole leave my shirt alone thing really grates me to think he was wearing a device. My only concern with Greinke is that he's a pretty safe bet to throw strikes and I feel like a lot of the offense's success has been getting in favorable counts. Not terribly afraid, but something to note.
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Post by Guidas on Oct 19, 2021 14:39:58 GMT -5
Pivetta 3-4 Houck 2-3 Whitlock 2 Eovaldi 1 Hope that is enough to bring home 9 innings and the win. Braiser or Ot on tje mix if needed I really think tonight is vital.If they lose Houston is back to 2/3 with home field. And based on Sale’s last few performances, the Sox are not set-up well tomorrow, especially if they have to go into the pen early tonight.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 19, 2021 14:42:53 GMT -5
the older people have the expensive seats.The Kids fill out the rest of the stadium. All credit to DD but if Chaim was hired when DD was hired I think he woulda did the same excellent job he is doing now. With DD we saw how far he took us. With Chaim its starting of course he has to get his title. I’ve been sitting in RF Roof Box but I’m sitting in the bleachers tonight. The ticket prices are a fair amount more for the ALCS than they were for the ALDS or the Yankees WC games, which were steals.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Oct 19, 2021 15:20:00 GMT -5
Sox in 5 games. Speak it into existence
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 19, 2021 16:06:08 GMT -5
Greinke is a long shot to be any good. Obviously he has a great history and anything can happen but he has been terrible to the tune of a 11+ era to end the season. And he is not overpowering to say the least so the Sox will be sitting on offspeed stuff. I don't want to be overly confident as a Sox fan but if I am a Stros fan I am not looking forward to tonight. Love seeing Altuves D leading to Sox runs. Time for him and the Stros to pay the price for the electronic cheating. The whole leave my shirt alone thing really grates me to think he was wearing a device. My only concern with Greinke is that he's a pretty safe bet to throw strikes and I feel like a lot of the offense's success has been getting in favorable counts. Not terribly afraid, but something to note. I don't want to come off as overconfident so I will just say, we shall see. The Sox have had problems with soft tossers before so maybe he last 4 innings. Hopefully the bats are still on fire and the Sox keep the pressure on.
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Post by benzinger on Oct 19, 2021 16:13:45 GMT -5
Nothing changes:
1. Kyle Schwarber 1B 2. Kiké Hernández CF 3. Rafael Devers 3B 4. Xander Bogaerts SS 5. Alex Verdugo LF 6. JD Martinez DH 7. Hunter Renfroe RF 8. Christian Vázquez C 9. Christian Arroyo 2B SP. Nick Pivetta
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Post by benzinger on Oct 19, 2021 16:15:58 GMT -5
Jose Altuve-2b Michael Brantley-lf Alex Bregman-3b Yordan Alvarez-dh Carlos Correa-ss Kyle Tucker-rf Yuli Gurriel-1b Chas McCormick-cf Martin Maldonado-c RHP Zack Greinke
Jake Meyers was in the original lineup, but has been scratched with an undisclosed injury.
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Post by saltalamacchia4mvp on Oct 19, 2021 16:29:05 GMT -5
If it ain't broke don't fix it
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Post by tizzle on Oct 19, 2021 16:43:33 GMT -5
Pivetta 3-4 Houck 2-3 Whitlock 2 Eovaldi 1 Hope that is enough to bring home 9 innings and the win. Braiser or Ot on tje mix if needed I really think tonight is vital.If they lose Houston is back to 2/3 with home field. And based on Sale’s last few performances, the Sox are not set-up well tomorrow, especially if they have to go into the pen early tonight. Ditto. The last two games have been a ton of fun and we're all rightly feeling good about the team right now. But a bad night tonight makes everything scary again.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 19, 2021 17:04:59 GMT -5
Greinke has pitched twice in the last 30 days. 3.1 innings.
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 19, 2021 17:11:57 GMT -5
Greinke has pitched twice in the last 30 days. 3.1 innings. Exactly.... and with the Sox bats on a role. I must temper my enthusiasm.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Oct 19, 2021 17:13:21 GMT -5
I'm sure the fans will be well behaved and only say fuck altuve twice tonight!
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Post by benzinger on Oct 19, 2021 17:23:37 GMT -5
Greinke has pitched twice in the last 30 days. 3.1 innings. Greinke also was famous for having serious anxiety issues in the past. That was always the main reason he wouldn’t go to NY. I’m not sure if he has that under control now, but hoping the Sox(and the fans) can rattle him and make him uncomfortable.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Oct 19, 2021 17:40:17 GMT -5
Greinke has pitched twice in the last 30 days. 3.1 innings. Greinke also was famous for having serious anxiety issues in the past. That was always the main reason he wouldn’t go to NY. I’m not sure if he has that under control now, but hoping the Sox(and the fans) can rattle him and make him uncomfortable. Oh I'm sure the fans know and will do anything to accommodate his anxiety issues
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Post by Guidas on Oct 19, 2021 17:46:30 GMT -5
Greinke has pitched twice in the last 30 days. 3.1 innings. Greinke also was famous for having serious anxiety issues in the past. That was always the main reason he wouldn’t go to NY. I’m not sure if he has that under control now, but hoping the Sox(and the fans) can rattle him and make him uncomfortable. He’s a veteran with nasty changing of speeds skills. And he’s well-rested. Seriously, this feels like the kind of moment he steps up.
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