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Boston Celtics 2021-2022 Season
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Post by philarhody on Oct 22, 2021 18:47:24 GMT -5
Great pass and assist by Tatum to Horford for the first bucket of the game! Love it!
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 22, 2021 18:52:24 GMT -5
I’ve watched half a quarter and Scottie Barnes is going to be a player. Kid is good.
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Post by philarhody on Oct 22, 2021 18:53:02 GMT -5
Really like what I’m seeing so far in this game. A lot of movement off ball and unselfish play. Keep it up Celtics!
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 22, 2021 20:07:41 GMT -5
Looks like this team is s-o-f-t
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Post by mobaz on Oct 22, 2021 20:12:59 GMT -5
Obviously still early but feels reminiscent of last season with games getting away from them. Not lovin' it
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Post by philarhody on Oct 22, 2021 20:16:15 GMT -5
Yup. Complaining about every call while the Raptors continue playing hard. Soft is right.
At least Robert Williams is fun and playing hard while healthy.
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Post by philarhody on Oct 22, 2021 20:18:04 GMT -5
Also, Romeo shouldn’t be playing over Nesmith.
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Post by Don Caballero on Oct 22, 2021 20:21:23 GMT -5
18 turnovers against 5 for the Raps.
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 22, 2021 20:30:57 GMT -5
Ime talked a big game this off-season and hasn’t stood by anything he said.
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Post by philarhody on Oct 22, 2021 20:38:01 GMT -5
Ime is soft.
I suggested trading Jaylen for Scottie Barnes and Christian Wood and was laughed off the board over the summer. I understand the trade value isn’t quite there, but this Celtics team needs a major change. They lack guys who hate losing.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Oct 22, 2021 20:41:58 GMT -5
Had to check the calendar - looks like last year's version of the team, exactly. The team, as constructed, will win some, but not nearly enough.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Oct 22, 2021 20:49:15 GMT -5
Why is Marcus Smart still on the team? Very disappointed they didn't say goodbye to him after last season.
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Post by philarhody on Oct 22, 2021 20:51:05 GMT -5
Why is Marcus Smart still on the team? Very disappointed they didn't say goodbye to him after last season. I agree. Mr. Accountability missed a team charter flight and then continues whining to the refs while your team needs energy and leadership. |
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Post by mobaz on Oct 22, 2021 20:54:18 GMT -5
Let's see if we hear "we are close to turning a corner" or "it was closer than the score" type BS.
Tatum better be taking more than 1 FT a game...
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 22, 2021 22:35:43 GMT -5
What was that? It's two games, yet I'm worried.
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Post by Don Caballero on Oct 22, 2021 22:42:56 GMT -5
What was that? It's two games, yet I'm worried. Same here bro. The more I think about it, the more I struggle to see this line-up with 2 centers and Smart running point. Are they planning to outscore anyone? It could work if they run a very egalitarian offense, but it breaks down when Tatum is taking long wing Js. I kind of see it, but I don't really SEE it. |
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Post by cdj on Oct 22, 2021 23:43:11 GMT -5
Definitely deserved to get booed off the court
Also Horford is a 5. Timelord is a 5. They’re very different but they are centers, not PF. Do not play them together often. Maybe like 5 min of overlap a game.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 23, 2021 9:01:58 GMT -5
This board 😂🤣😂. 2 games in…
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Post by ianrs on Oct 23, 2021 11:20:15 GMT -5
The overreactions are hilarious
Calling Ime soft is so premature it's not even funny. Does he need to figure out lineup stuff? Sure.
If anyone is soft it's the team because it's been consistent across Ime and Brad but don't think it's the team. I think Tatum needs to stop the whining and just play and the rest will fall into place.
Never want to see two bigs again tbh though.
I'm really not worried at all and still think we are a lot better than last year. If we are still playing like this after a month sure, I'll be worried.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 23, 2021 12:12:12 GMT -5
You are playing a young athletic team and some of the biggest issues were the coaches lineups. If he simple starts Williams or Horford it solves a bunch of issues. You went from too big you couldn't match their speed, then way too small with Grant Williams at center. It was comical watching it, one possession they got like 5 offensive rebounds in a row. An average fan knows Grant Williams can't handle athletic players as a PF, nevermind at center. He's done this crap all preseason, I just thought he was trying out things. Yet he seems determined to play big and then go crazy small with the second unit.
I don't really care about Wins and loses at this point. I do care about lineups, team play, toughness, attitude and how a coach adjusts in game. Everything he preached all offseason went out the window in an epic fashion.
Has Ime not watched tape on past Celtic teams and our players? This isn't Stevens starting two bigs because he has no other options. How do you spend a full training camp and preseason with this team and come away with Robert Williams and Horford starting and playing together? What he liked Horfords tape playing PF for the Sixers? Worse yet did he watch that tape? I don't know how you watch that tape and do what he's doing. Horford hasn't been a PF for a long time.
Basic crap, pick one center to start. I'd go Robert Williams, I love Horford on the second unit. Start Schroder or Pritchard at PG, they can get into the lane to collapse a D, unlike Smart. That's the easy crap, who you play at SG is a bit tougher and I certainly won't fault Ime for trying out a bunch of combos. That's the part of team with talent, yet no great fits unless Richardson is back. Right now I'd separate Tatum, Brown and Smart. Heck I might sit Smart a game given he just had zero rebounds in almost 30 minutes. Where's the PG that was close to 5 rebounds a game per 36 minutes to start his career?
Sorry for the rant, yeah it's two games. Yet outside the final minutes and overtime versus the Knicks this team looks like crap. I'm sorry this is nothing more than a hot take, yet is Ime a good coach? I feel like going on Twitter and starting the countdown till Stevens is back on the bench hashtag, if I only had an account 😅.
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Post by dangermike on Oct 23, 2021 12:39:37 GMT -5
we need energy - really hoping schroeder and horford can get these guys going bc tatum is fairly lifeless as a leader and smart seems to forget that his best role is as a disruptor. brown is good but he never gets fed no matter how hot he's been - that always irks me.
i think the best thing that can happen this season is youth improvement and for a big trade to open up. trading smart and others for another star will better suit this team than anything else - we have small guard depth. we just need a dude who can open things up for everyone and im not sure we have that (im not even talking about offense specifically - if we added jimmy butler to this team, id be betting on future rings in vegas already).
ive seen the tatum flashes and i know it's only been literally two games, but im not sure hes a surefire no doubt #1 superstar, gtfoutta the way and let him get buckets kind of player.
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 23, 2021 13:10:01 GMT -5
You are playing a young athletic team and some of the biggest issues were the coaches lineups. If he simple starts Williams or Horford it solves a bunch of issues. You went from too big you couldn't match their speed, then way too small with Grant Williams at center. It was comical watching it, one possession they got like 5 offensive rebounds in a row. An average fan knows Grant Williams can't handle athletic players as a PF, nevermind at center. He's done this crap all preseason, I just thought he was trying out things. Yet he seems determined to play big and then go crazy small with the second unit. I don't really care about Wins and loses at this point. I do care about lineups, team play, toughness, attitude and how a coach adjusts in game. Everything he preached all offseason went out the window in an epic fashion. Has Ime not watched tape on past Celtic teams and our players? This isn't Stevens starting two bigs because he has no other options. How do you spend a full training camp and preseason with this team and come away with Robert Williams and Horford starting and playing together? What he liked Horfords tape playing PF for the Sixers? Worse yet did he watch that tape? I don't know how you watch that tape and do what he's doing. Horford hasn't been a PF for a long time. Basic crap, pick one center to start. I'd go Robert Williams, I love Horford on the second unit. Start Schroder or Pritchard at PG, they can get into the lane to collapse a D, unlike Smart. That's the easy crap, who you play at SG is a bit tougher and I certainly won't fault Ime for trying out a bunch of combos. That's the part of team with talent, yet no great fits unless Richardson is back. Right now I'd separate Tatum, Brown and Smart. Heck I might sit Smart a game given he just had zero rebounds in almost 30 minutes. Where's the PG that was close to 5 rebounds a game per 36 minutes to start his career? Sorry for the rant, yeah it's two games. Yet outside the final minutes and overtime versus the Knicks this team looks like crap. I'm sorry this is nothing more than a hot take, yet is Ime a good coach? I feel like going on Twitter and starting the countdown till Stevens is back on the bench hashtag, if I only had an account 😅. Watch tape of Horford in Philly? Heck he was on the coaching staff!! It's early and maybe a couple early losses like this will light a fire and let these guys realize they have to keep working and playing harder. The team leader should be Horford, he needs to let these young guys know what stage they are in in their careers. They are still learning. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 23, 2021 13:26:55 GMT -5
we need energy - really hoping schroeder and horford can get these guys going bc tatum is fairly lifeless as a leader and smart seems to forget that his best role is as a disruptor. brown is good but he never gets fed no matter how hot he's been - that always irks me. i think the best thing that can happen this season is youth improvement and for a big trade to open up. trading smart and others for another star will better suit this team than anything else - we have small guard depth. we just need a dude who can open things up for everyone and im not sure we have that (im not even talking about offense specifically - if we added jimmy butler to this team, id be betting on future rings in vegas already). ive seen the tatum flashes and i know it's only been literally two games, but im not sure hes a surefire no doubt #1 superstar, gtfoutta the way and let him get buckets kind of player. I agree with some of this but not on Tatum. He has shown more than flashes and the best players in the league point to him as being one of those players that are no doubt future superstars. He does seem to get off to slow starts every year though. He is still only 23 and he just packed on some muscle, I expect his numbers will improve over last season. Those were some pretty good numbers. And if he is being now being asked to grow his game into being a facilitator it will take a little time. And the facilitator part of his game is the next step in becoming that superstar. Maybe it is too early to put the ball in his hands more and ask him to be that but it was coming sooner or later. Which is one of the reasons I think PP should get more run with the Js, his range would open up the D and or he would hit a lot of open 3s at a 40% clip. PP has his warts but he could be very effective in that role along with his ability to push the ball. That would help the Js also. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 23, 2021 14:31:04 GMT -5
You are playing a young athletic team and some of the biggest issues were the coaches lineups. If he simple starts Williams or Horford it solves a bunch of issues. You went from too big you couldn't match their speed, then way too small with Grant Williams at center. It was comical watching it, one possession they got like 5 offensive rebounds in a row. An average fan knows Grant Williams can't handle athletic players as a PF, nevermind at center. He's done this crap all preseason, I just thought he was trying out things. Yet he seems determined to play big and then go crazy small with the second unit. I don't really care about Wins and loses at this point. I do care about lineups, team play, toughness, attitude and how a coach adjusts in game. Everything he preached all offseason went out the window in an epic fashion. Has Ime not watched tape on past Celtic teams and our players? This isn't Stevens starting two bigs because he has no other options. How do you spend a full training camp and preseason with this team and come away with Robert Williams and Horford starting and playing together? What he liked Horfords tape playing PF for the Sixers? Worse yet did he watch that tape? I don't know how you watch that tape and do what he's doing. Horford hasn't been a PF for a long time. Basic crap, pick one center to start. I'd go Robert Williams, I love Horford on the second unit. Start Schroder or Pritchard at PG, they can get into the lane to collapse a D, unlike Smart. That's the easy crap, who you play at SG is a bit tougher and I certainly won't fault Ime for trying out a bunch of combos. That's the part of team with talent, yet no great fits unless Richardson is back. Right now I'd separate Tatum, Brown and Smart. Heck I might sit Smart a game given he just had zero rebounds in almost 30 minutes. Where's the PG that was close to 5 rebounds a game per 36 minutes to start his career? Sorry for the rant, yeah it's two games. Yet outside the final minutes and overtime versus the Knicks this team looks like crap. I'm sorry this is nothing more than a hot take, yet is Ime a good coach? I feel like going on Twitter and starting the countdown till Stevens is back on the bench hashtag, if I only had an account 😅. Watch tape of Horford in Philly? Heck he was on the coaching staff!! It's early and maybe a couple early losses like this will light a fire and let these guys realize they have to keep working and playing harder. The team leader should be Horford, he needs to let these young guys know what stage they are in in their careers. They are still learning. Omg that makes it worse. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 23, 2021 15:58:14 GMT -5
Didn’t the Celtics dominate at the start? After some sloppy play they dominated. I do agree that playing Horford and Williams together is silly but not because they don’t work together, they did. It’s because you are left too small otherwise, but let’s all relax. It was the first game with the full team. They played 4 preseason games and they were missing guys for half of it.
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