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Post by soxfanatic on Mar 12, 2022 10:30:40 GMT -5
Cishek is a guy I always thought would wind up with the Red Sox, but it somehow never happened.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Mar 12, 2022 10:35:41 GMT -5
Cishek is a guy I always thought would wind up with the Red Sox, but it somehow never happened. It's too bad. I think he could have helped them. The available options aren't that appealing. If healthy Joe Kelly, besides McHugh, is the best option, which I can't believe I'm saying. I dont think Jansen is a realistic option and for the dollars I dont see it happening. However as a 1 year reasonable trade rental I'd take Kimbrel back, so call me crazy. Either way I don't see it happening. I wouldn't be shocked if Houck wound up the closer when all is said and done.
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Post by ematz1423 on Mar 12, 2022 11:07:42 GMT -5
Cishek is a guy I always thought would wind up with the Red Sox, but it somehow never happened. It's too bad. I think he could have helped them. The available options aren't that appealing. If healthy Joe Kelly, besides McHugh, is the best option, which I can't believe I'm saying. I dont think Jansen is a realistic option and for the dollars I dont see it happening. However as a 1 year reasonable trade rental I'd take Kimbrel back, so call me crazy. Either way I don't see it happening. I wouldn't be shocked if Houck wound up the closer when all is said and done. I'd certainly take Jansen on a 1 year deal but it'd probably be for like 20 mil haha. That aside I'll preface this by saying I'm extremely bullish on Houck but id be pissed if he's slated for the bullpen this year. I know it's in 4-5 inning averages but looking at his stats in his starts, he deserves every last chance to prove he's a starter. His numbers are just too good for me to say eh yea hes only ever going to be a reliever.
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Post by James Dunne on Mar 12, 2022 11:35:39 GMT -5
Was looking up Garver. I would never have guessed he hit 31 homers in 2019.
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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 12, 2022 11:53:38 GMT -5
I just want to see Freddie stay in Atlanta. It just seems right. Going to the Dodgers just so wrong. Where are the Dodgers getting all of this money from? Must be nice to blow through the luxury tax every year. They signed a local tv deal for 8.35 billion a few yrs ago that pays 240 m/yr.
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Post by taiwansox on Mar 12, 2022 12:43:35 GMT -5
Where are the Dodgers getting all of this money from? Must be nice to blow through the luxury tax every year. They signed a local tv deal for 8.35 billion a few yrs ago that pays 240 m/yr. Rather him go there than to MFY
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Mar 12, 2022 13:45:21 GMT -5
They signed a local tv deal for 8.35 billion a few yrs ago that pays 240 m/yr. Rather him go there than to MFY This is true.
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Post by julyanmorley on Mar 12, 2022 14:01:21 GMT -5
P fair deal imo
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Post by taftreign on Mar 12, 2022 19:42:35 GMT -5
I think Bassitt is a nice get. Did have to give up JT Ginn in this deal though for 1 year of Bassitt. For the Mets I think it’s worth it. They are going for a title and this is a move that helps get them there without a big price tag. Bassitt will make around 9 Mil this season.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 13, 2022 12:36:34 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 13, 2022 21:30:54 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 13, 2022 21:36:17 GMT -5
Full trade is Donaldson, Kiner-Falefa, and Ben Rortvedt for Gary Sanchez and Gio Urshela.
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Post by grandsalami on Mar 13, 2022 21:47:12 GMT -5
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Post by chr31ter on Mar 13, 2022 21:48:39 GMT -5
Nelson Cruz to Washington.
Feels like the market is starting to move.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Mar 13, 2022 21:58:36 GMT -5
Full trade is Donaldson, Kiner-Falefa, and Ben Rortvedt for Gary Sanchez and Gio Urshela. Like this deal for MFY. They gave up nothing except taking on the entire Donaldson deal. Gary Sanchez is a bum.
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Post by cdj on Mar 13, 2022 21:59:57 GMT -5
That’s a wild one twins apparently will try to flip Gary. Future Boston Red Sox catcher Gary Sanchez
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Post by manfred on Mar 13, 2022 22:02:44 GMT -5
That’s a wild one twins apparently will try to flip Gary. Future Boston Red Sox catcher Gary Sanchez 3b. Devers for Sanchez and 4 16-year olds that are *definitely* going to start in 2029.
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Post by greenmonster on Mar 13, 2022 22:05:00 GMT -5
That’s a wild one twins apparently will try to flip Gary. Future Boston Red Sox catcher Gary Sanchez Most likely ends up as a DH. Terrible Catcher
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Mar 13, 2022 22:07:41 GMT -5
That’s a wild one twins apparently will try to flip Gary. Future Boston Red Sox catcher Gary Sanchez Jeez, I hope not. Sanchez is addition by subtraction for the Yankees. His defense is brutal. I'm just glad the Twins already dealt away Mitch Garver so NY couldn't get him. Donaldson is an expensive upgrade over Urshela. He's declining but he's still better than Urshela who already had his career year. It is a good deal for NY though as they get a legit middle of the order bat, something they were lacking at times last year. With Judge, Stanton, Donaldson, either Rizzo or Olson, and Gallo with Lemahieu leading off, the lineup should be thicker than it was for most of last year. Kiner-Falefa is mediocre. He will place hold until Volpe is ready. Wonder who catches for NY. Probably their backup from last year and the kid they got in this trade. Sanchez will wind up a DH in the NL.
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Post by cdj on Mar 13, 2022 22:09:48 GMT -5
Yeah I honestly don’t like Gary, I was just joking
I think the Yankees made out like bandits and they used their financial might to do so. They took on unwanted salary to facilitate getting back more talent than what they relinquished
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Post by notstarboard on Mar 13, 2022 22:35:52 GMT -5
That’s a wild one twins apparently will try to flip Gary. Future Boston Red Sox catcher Gary Sanchez Jeez, I hope not. Sanchez is addition by subtraction for the Yankees. His defense is brutal. I'm just glad the Twins already dealt away Mitch Garver so NY couldn't get him. Donaldson is an expensive upgrade over Urshela. He's declining but he's still better than Urshela who already had his career year. It is a good deal for NY though as they get a legit middle of the order bat, something they were lacking at times last year. With Judge, Stanton, Donaldson, either Rizzo or Olson, and Gallo with Lemahieu leading off, the lineup should be thicker than it was for most of last year. Kiner-Falefa is mediocre. He will place hold until Volpe is ready. Wonder who catches for NY. Probably their backup from last year and the kid they got in this trade. Sanchez will wind up a DH in the NL. Kiner-Falefa solid imo. He put up 2 dWAR last year, which ultimately led to 3.7 bWAR. His fWAR is only 2.3, so split the difference and call it 3 WAR, but a 3 WAR SS entering his age 27 season, due to make only $5 million, and with another arb year, is still a useful player.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Mar 13, 2022 22:39:34 GMT -5
Jeez, I hope not. Sanchez is addition by subtraction for the Yankees. His defense is brutal. I'm just glad the Twins already dealt away Mitch Garver so NY couldn't get him. Donaldson is an expensive upgrade over Urshela. He's declining but he's still better than Urshela who already had his career year. It is a good deal for NY though as they get a legit middle of the order bat, something they were lacking at times last year. With Judge, Stanton, Donaldson, either Rizzo or Olson, and Gallo with Lemahieu leading off, the lineup should be thicker than it was for most of last year. Kiner-Falefa is mediocre. He will place hold until Volpe is ready. Wonder who catches for NY. Probably their backup from last year and the kid they got in this trade. Sanchez will wind up a DH in the NL. Kiner-Falefa solid imo. He put up 2 dWAR last year, which ultimately led to 3.7 bWAR. His fWAR is only 2.3, so split the difference and call it 3 WAR, but a 3 WAR SS entering his age 27 season, due to make only $5 million, and with another arb year, is still a useful player. Yes. I was looking more at his offense than defense. He can hit for a respectable average but his OBP and SA is mediocre. He's a lower third of the order guy. The Yanks are still thin offensively in CF and catcher and SS is so-so as well. Still an improved Yankee lineup though.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Mar 13, 2022 22:42:49 GMT -5
If teams are going to insist on getting fleeced by the Twins, I’m glad I he Yankees are one of those teams and we are not.
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Post by julyanmorley on Mar 13, 2022 22:49:56 GMT -5
Don't think the Yankee trade is a big deal. IKF is an average player entering his last two arb years. DRS loves his defense but OAA and UZR disagree by a lot. Gio has the same service time, maybe a little worse player and he's older, but the value gap isn't massive. Donaldson sure looks like a toxic asset - shocked that the spreadsheets are projecting him above 3 WAR next year.
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Post by benzinger on Mar 13, 2022 22:59:31 GMT -5
If teams are going to insist on getting fleeced by the Twins, I’m glad I he Yankees are one of those teams and we are not. Getting rid of Sanchez is a huge win for the Yankees. But I don’t understand 2 years of Donaldson at a big salary. He’s looooong past his prime(and can never stay healthy).
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