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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 23, 2022 17:41:16 GMT -5
No Fournier, Kennard or Duncan Robinson, if you want a good shooter Ime likely won't play much because of his D, just draft Johnny Juzang. Maybe just maybe you can transform him into a better type of defender like Strus. Not great, yet competes, more toughness. If not it's a late 2nd round pick, not a big multi year contract. Unless it's all about the next trade.
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Post by cdj on Jun 23, 2022 17:58:14 GMT -5
Celtics apparently like Tari Eason of LSU a lot, Harper from the athletic says they might be willing to trade from their young bench guys to get him
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 23, 2022 19:00:57 GMT -5
Lakers trade future 2nd and cash for pick 35. Would have loved that.
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Post by mobaz on Jun 23, 2022 19:57:03 GMT -5
Mildly shaken up Top 10 so far. Only a few chalk picks but no huge surprises.
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Post by philarhody on Jun 23, 2022 20:49:04 GMT -5
Props to Orlando and Sacramento for taking their best player available. Jabari would have been a fear driven pick.
This broadcast with the title 9 stuff, Jalen Rose and Stephen A is really bad. Like, why doesn’t Jalen just listen to one Sam Vecenie podcast?
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Post by philarhody on Jun 23, 2022 20:50:03 GMT -5
Tari Eason just got drafted by the Rockets. He’s so awesome defensively.
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Post by cdj on Jun 23, 2022 21:00:03 GMT -5
I don’t hate the idea of trading up for EJ Liddell
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Post by philarhody on Jun 23, 2022 21:06:51 GMT -5
I would give up 3 firsts and Pritchard for Dejounte Murray.
You want to play with more speed on offense? How about start one of the three fastest players in the league at point guard. How about playmaking? He averaged 9 assists last year. But you don’t want to get worse defensively? Meet the NBA’s steal leader who’s a 6’5 point guard.
The fit is perfect and he’s the Jays’ age.
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Post by cdj on Jun 23, 2022 21:30:17 GMT -5
I would give up 3 firsts and Pritchard for Dejounte Murray. You want to play with more speed on offense? How about start one of the three fastest players in the league at point guard. How about playmaking? He averaged 9 assists last year. But you don’t want to get worse defensively? Meet the NBA’s steal leader who’s a 6’5 point guard. The fit is perfect and he’s the Jays’ age. Oh in a heartbeat, literally zero hesitation. I’d be disappointed if they didn’t win 3 titles with a Tatum/Brown/Murray top 3 |
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Post by texs31 on Jun 23, 2022 22:03:10 GMT -5
I would give up 3 firsts and Pritchard for Dejounte Murray. You want to play with more speed on offense? How about start one of the three fastest players in the league at point guard. How about playmaking? He averaged 9 assists last year. But you don’t want to get worse defensively? Meet the NBA’s steal leader who’s a 6’5 point guard. The fit is perfect and he’s the Jays’ age. Don't get me started. He's been my binky for years. |
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Post by redsox43 on Jun 23, 2022 22:42:25 GMT -5
I would give up 3 firsts and Pritchard for Dejounte Murray. You want to play with more speed on offense? How about start one of the three fastest players in the league at point guard. How about playmaking? He averaged 9 assists last year. But you don’t want to get worse defensively? Meet the NBA’s steal leader who’s a 6’5 point guard. The fit is perfect and he’s the Jays’ age. Is this a thing that's being floated around the draft or just an idea? |
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Post by philarhody on Jun 23, 2022 23:13:54 GMT -5
Over the past day and a half, Murray had some weird tweets with eyeball emojis and reactions to John Collins trade proposals. For weeks now, Zach Lowe and others have been saying that they keep hearing things about Murray potentially being traded.
He would fit into the Fournier trade exception.
Apparently Spurs are looking for a Jrue Holliday type return. Honestly, it kind of makes me wonder if there is something wrong with the guy from a character perspective, because last year he may have been the second best point guard in the NBA.
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Post by philarhody on Jun 23, 2022 23:18:18 GMT -5
Ok, JD Davison
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Post by cdj on Jun 23, 2022 23:19:57 GMT -5
Really high end recruit, sick hair. For pick 53 that athleticism is worth a look. See if he can develop a shot
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 23, 2022 23:34:01 GMT -5
Not bad as it's a late 2nd round pick, he's just raw, dribbling, shooting, TOs. He actually tested worst than Scottie Pippen Jr. at the combine and lacks all his polish. We'll see what a year in G-league does for him.
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Post by cdj on Jun 24, 2022 0:22:30 GMT -5
I like that he had arguably his best game against Gonzaga and that he put Walker Kessler on a poster
Side note Kessler better get used to that lol
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Post by tizzle on Jun 24, 2022 1:58:14 GMT -5
" Offense was a major struggle at times for Davison, who isn't a polished ball handler or a consistent shooter, and turned the ball over at an alarmingly high rate."
The Celtics certainly do seem to have a type.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 24, 2022 5:06:40 GMT -5
Knicks trade 13th pick, Kemba and get 2025 Bucks first rounder. Traded 2023 Denver pick, from Thunder and 4 second rounders to get 13th pick, after trading 11th pick.
The Fournier rumors make sense now, they likely were talking about taking him and getting assets back.
All so Knicks can have cap space again and mess things up once again. Like giving big money to Fournier, Walker, Noel and Burks.
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Post by mobaz on Jun 24, 2022 7:03:49 GMT -5
Knicks trade 13th pick, Kemba and get 2025 Bucks first rounder. Traded 2023 Denver pick, from Thunder and 4 second rounders to get 13th pick, after trading 11th pick. The Fournier rumors make sense now, they likely were talking about taking him and getting assets back. All so Knicks can have cap space again and mess things up once again. Like giving big money to Fournier, Walker, Noel and Burks. I've read this 5 times here, and 5 times from different sources last night, and still have no idea what the Knicks did. The coverage of trades (or the leaked info about them) has been particularly atrocious this go-around. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 24, 2022 7:04:00 GMT -5
Any time you can draft a small guard who can’t shoot, create for others, dribble and is turn over prone, you should definitely do it because he’s fast and can jump. Sorry, terrible pick. How’s a tiny guard who can’t shoot or dribble or switch on defense going to play for this team? GTFO with this pick
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Post by mobaz on Jun 24, 2022 7:16:29 GMT -5
Knicks trade 13th pick, Kemba and get 2025 Bucks first rounder. Traded 2023 Denver pick, from Thunder and 4 second rounders to get 13th pick, after trading 11th pick. The Fournier rumors make sense now, they likely were talking about taking him and getting assets back. All so Knicks can have cap space again and mess things up once again. Like giving big money to Fournier, Walker, Noel and Burks. I've read this 5 times here, and 5 times from different sources last night, and still have no idea what the Knicks did. The coverage of trades (or the leaked info about them) has been particularly atrocious this go-around. New York Knicks get: 2023 first-round pick (from Detroit via Oklahoma City; top-18 protected) 2023 first-round pick (from Washington, via Oklahoma City; top-14 protected) 2025 first-round pick (from Milwaukee, via Detroit; top-four protected) Detroit Pistons get: Jalen Duren (No. 13 pick in 2022) Kemba Walker Charlotte Hornets get: 2023 first-round pick (from Denver, via Oklahoma City and New York; top-14 protected) Three 2023 second-round picks (via New York, Utah and Dallas or Miami) 2024 second-round pick (via New York) Oklahoma City Thunder get: Ousmane Dieng (No. 11 pick in 2022) From Kevin Pelton, finally get the WHAT ($) |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 24, 2022 10:10:52 GMT -5
The problem I see with Davison is that on his high school tape he's one of the biggest guys on court and plays like a big. He lives in the paint and is putting up massive numbers of rebounds and blocks, along with points, assists and steals in games. Gets to SEC and he's one of the smallest guys and never developed his other skills.
Glass half full, he's like Rozier even though he's a lot more raw at the same age. He adds another 10-15 pounds, which would greatly help his D and switch ability. Just needs to adjust to the massive talent difference and size now.
Glass half empty, he's already gained almost 17 pounds from his high school weight and is basically maxed out, while never developing his skills.
Brad so far has made two second round picks, both raw crazy athletic players. Yeah at least so far he certainly has a type.
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Post by cdj on Jun 24, 2022 10:52:54 GMT -5
They clearly wanted a developmental guy and this guy is definitely that. It’s the 53rd pick in the draft, they could draft some kid out of Senegal that’s not on any draft lists and I wouldn’t call it a horrible pick. Let alone if they pick a kid who was the 9th ranked player in his class before this past season started. I also wouldn’t say he can’t create for others, he absolutely can. He’s just turnover prone
I do see a lot of Rozier in him, I think that’s pretty good for a loose comparison if things break right. We’ll see how he does with a year of seasoning in the G-league and high level coaching.
If you get anything at all out of pick 53 then you did a good job
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Post by Don Caballero on Jun 24, 2022 11:54:59 GMT -5
So, hear me out: how about we trade with the Hornets and get Terry back?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 24, 2022 12:08:32 GMT -5
I would say the biggest surprise to me was passing on Justin Lewis, who's basically a more athletic Grant Williams, with a better wingspan. Didn't even look at him because all mocks had him going before our pick. Bulls already signed him to 2 way deal
That is my one complaint with Brad, why not jump on some two way contract guys early? The good ones sign crazy fast, everyone on my list that wasn't drafted already signed. Foster with Sixers, Williams with Nets, Juzang with Jazz, Pippen Jr. with Lakers.
Even my next tier of Williams, Harper Jr., Gillespie, Cockburn, Champagnie, Mohammad and Brown only has Trevion Williams unsigned currently.
Would have given an A+ if after Davison, he did what the 76ers or Jazz did. Foster, Champagnie, Muhammad or Juzang and Cockburn.
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