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Post by philip on Jul 13, 2022 16:08:31 GMT -5
Same for getting story to replace bogarts.
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Post by philip on Jul 13, 2022 16:09:51 GMT -5
Very curious to watch the game tonight and see what horrible play Cordero or Dalbec will make to lose the game.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 13, 2022 16:24:49 GMT -5
Very curious to watch the game tonight and see what horrible play Cordero or Dalbec will make to lose the game. Doom and gloom starting early I see
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Post by benzinger on Jul 13, 2022 16:27:54 GMT -5
The most important aspect of Sale’s outing for me last night was: Can he command his slider arm side? He was incapable of doing that last year. He was incapable of throwing it to the outside corner of RHH. But last night, especially as the game went on, he was dotting that thing! It’s like an April start for him, I think that the velocity will go up and by September he’ll be painting the inside corner to RHH with 98-99 mph fastball while also taking ownership of the outside corner of the plate with his slider. The Red Sox entering the playoffs with a Sale-Eovaldi-Paxton (all with a much lighter season workload than the opposing team) could do some serious damage. Just get in there baby! What are the odds that Sale stays healthy for the rest of the season, looks like his old self and OPTS OUT of his deal at the end of the season?? He has 2yr/$55m left on his contract after this year. If he’s healthy, he can easily beat that in the open market. Then the Sox would have shelled out a ton for him to have surgery and rehab for a couple years while another team gets his services. Interesting to think about.
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Post by dirtdog on Jul 13, 2022 16:38:47 GMT -5
The most important aspect of Sale’s outing for me last night was: Can he command his slider arm side? He was incapable of doing that last year. He was incapable of throwing it to the outside corner of RHH. But last night, especially as the game went on, he was dotting that thing! It’s like an April start for him, I think that the velocity will go up and by September he’ll be painting the inside corner to RHH with 98-99 mph fastball while also taking ownership of the outside corner of the plate with his slider. The Red Sox entering the playoffs with a Sale-Eovaldi-Paxton (all with a much lighter season workload than the opposing team) could do some serious damage. Just get in there baby! What are the odds that Sale stays healthy for the rest of the season, It's not something I would bet my life on but I was certainly pleasantly surprised by last nights performance in comparison to his last rehab start.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 13, 2022 17:14:19 GMT -5
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Post by redsox43 on Jul 13, 2022 17:17:07 GMT -5
Ugh I forgot the Sox were facing McClanahan tonight. This series is not working out like planned. The Sox are in survival mode until the all-star break.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 13, 2022 18:17:09 GMT -5
Remember, the "Tampa Way" according to that article from the Athletic we posted earlier in the year, is to be supportive of the players while they're hear but to be "ruthless" letting them go when the organization believes the timing is right for the organization to move on, even when a player is approaching his prime. They also go through pitchers like toilet paper. That's also the Belichick way and somehow New England fans can live with it. But also, Tampa HAS to be that way in order to succeed, the Red Sox don't, maybe they will anyway, but we'll see. The Red Sox reportedly already offered Devers $200M, so I'm willing to give it a little time before I'm certain that Bloom will never resign a player. How’s Belichick doing since Brady left? Also, he’s crap at drafts, players drafted are expected to play right away, and football has a salary cap. It not even apples to oranges. More lije Apples to cinderblock comparison .
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Post by greenmonster on Jul 13, 2022 18:20:39 GMT -5
DOB praising Cora about how good he is at picking up pitchers "tipping"...apparently he doesn't know about the cloud over Cora's head.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 13, 2022 18:22:25 GMT -5
Josh Winckowski: Perfectly acceptable back end starter
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Post by radiohix on Jul 13, 2022 18:30:18 GMT -5
The most important aspect of Sale’s outing for me last night was: Can he command his slider arm side? He was incapable of doing that last year. He was incapable of throwing it to the outside corner of RHH. But last night, especially as the game went on, he was dotting that thing! It’s like an April start for him, I think that the velocity will go up and by September he’ll be painting the inside corner to RHH with 98-99 mph fastball while also taking ownership of the outside corner of the plate with his slider. The Red Sox entering the playoffs with a Sale-Eovaldi-Paxton (all with a much lighter season workload than the opposing team) could do some serious damage. Just get in there baby! What are the odds that Sale stays healthy for the rest of the season, looks like his old self and OPTS OUT of his deal at the end of the season?? He has 2yr/$55m left on his contract after this year. If he’s healthy, he can easily beat that in the open market. Then the Sox would have shelled out a ton for him to have surgery and rehab for a couple years while another team gets his services. Interesting to think about. You must be fun at parties aren't you? 🤣
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Post by redsox43 on Jul 13, 2022 18:36:46 GMT -5
The most important aspect of Sale’s outing for me last night was: Can he command his slider arm side? He was incapable of doing that last year. He was incapable of throwing it to the outside corner of RHH. But last night, especially as the game went on, he was dotting that thing! It’s like an April start for him, I think that the velocity will go up and by September he’ll be painting the inside corner to RHH with 98-99 mph fastball while also taking ownership of the outside corner of the plate with his slider. The Red Sox entering the playoffs with a Sale-Eovaldi-Paxton (all with a much lighter season workload than the opposing team) could do some serious damage. Just get in there baby! What are the odds that Sale stays healthy for the rest of the season, looks like his old self and OPTS OUT of his deal at the end of the season?? He has 2yr/$55m left on his contract after this year. If he’s healthy, he can easily beat that in the open market. Then the Sox would have shelled out a ton for him to have surgery and rehab for a couple years while another team gets his services. Interesting to think about. I think the Sox would love for Sale to Opt out. Spread the money around elsewhere.
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Post by taiwansox on Jul 13, 2022 18:38:27 GMT -5
Back to back to back homers for 7-9 in the Reds lineup against Severino lol
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 13, 2022 18:39:03 GMT -5
What are the odds that Sale stays healthy for the rest of the season, looks like his old self and OPTS OUT of his deal at the end of the season?? He has 2yr/$55m left on his contract after this year. If he’s healthy, he can easily beat that in the open market. Then the Sox would have shelled out a ton for him to have surgery and rehab for a couple years while another team gets his services. Interesting to think about. I think the Sox would love for Sale to Opt out. Spread the money around elsewhere. Any player who opts out is going for even more money because he'd be on a below market deal, so no. They'd rather have him on a below market deal. And besides that, he is not that kind of guy anyway. He probably believes that he owes the Red Sox and the fans, unlike 99% of other athletes.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 13, 2022 18:41:40 GMT -5
109.5 for Dalbec. xBA .790.
But of course, only results matter, unless he gets a triple that isn't hit hard like last night.
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Post by cdj on Jul 13, 2022 18:42:54 GMT -5
McClanahan is a coward for that full count slider
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Post by redsox43 on Jul 13, 2022 18:48:48 GMT -5
I think the Sox would love for Sale to Opt out. Spread the money around elsewhere. Any player who opts out is going for even more money because he'd be on a below market deal, so no. They'd rather have him on a below market deal. And besides that, he is not that kind of guy anyway. He probably believes that he owes the Red Sox and the fans, unlike 99% of other athletes. 25 million a year for a guy who's barely played the past 3 years isn't below market value. What does Sale owe anyone besides his family? He's already pitched the final inning of a championship to Boston. It's all about his final payday, if you ask me.
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Post by cdj on Jul 13, 2022 18:49:23 GMT -5
Too many walks Josh!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 13, 2022 18:52:11 GMT -5
walking Lowe is scandalous.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 13, 2022 18:56:03 GMT -5
walking Lowe is scandalous. That’s the one thing Wink has to correct. Contact pitchers can’t walk too many. 3.5 per nine innings coming into tonight
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 13, 2022 18:56:53 GMT -5
i thought Wincky was a control guy. Behind in too many counts
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Post by radiohix on Jul 13, 2022 18:57:10 GMT -5
Josh Winckowski: Perfectly acceptable back end starter Not on a team with championship aspirations. He barely misses bats. You stake a guys like that on your AAA roster for spot starts till he's out of options then you trade him.
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Post by benzinger on Jul 13, 2022 18:57:38 GMT -5
Any player who opts out is going for even more money because he'd be on a below market deal, so no. They'd rather have him on a below market deal. And besides that, he is not that kind of guy anyway. He probably believes that he owes the Red Sox and the fans, unlike 99% of other athletes. 25 million a year for a guy who's barely played the past 3 years isn't below market value. What does Sale owe anyone besides his family? He's already pitched the final inning of a championahip to Boston. It's all about his final payday, if you ask me. Of course there is no “loyalty to the Sox” or whatever nonsense was said above. It’s just like the Sox had no “loyalty” to the likes of Nomar or Lester or Mookie or Xander. You have to be 14, or under, to not understand this is a business by now. All that said, if Sale can get 3+ years or some more money off a strong finish to 2022(even if it is from the Sox), he will do it in a heartbeat.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 13, 2022 18:57:47 GMT -5
Any player who opts out is going for even more money because he'd be on a below market deal, so no. They'd rather have him on a below market deal. And besides that, he is not that kind of guy anyway. He probably believes that he owes the Red Sox and the fans, unlike 99% of other athletes. 25 million a year for a guy who's barely played the past 3 years isn't below market value. What does Sale owe anyone besides his family? He's already pitched the final inning of a championship to Boston. It's all about his final payday, if you ask me. Then he won't opt out! I didn't say that Sale owes anyone anything, but from how he talks, I bet he feels that way.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 13, 2022 18:58:22 GMT -5
just getting screwed every which way this series.
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