cdj
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Post by cdj on Jul 11, 2022 21:20:54 GMT -5
We are doing a disservice to Bobby by keeping him up, option him to Worcester and let him get his confidence back
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Post by manfred on Jul 11, 2022 21:23:24 GMT -5
Oof. I mean no team is going to be able to avoid a huge drop from the likes of Raffy, but Dalbec and FranKy at the corners is brutal.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 11, 2022 21:26:31 GMT -5
Rays have about 48 ground ball hits this game.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 11, 2022 21:27:04 GMT -5
I think I'd keep Ort over Valdez when it comes time to make room for Sale tomorrow
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Post by manfred on Jul 11, 2022 21:28:19 GMT -5
I think I'd keep Ort over Valdez when it comes time to make room for Sale tomorrow Certainly at this point: Valdez will not be ready for days after this inning.
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TearsIn04
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Post by TearsIn04 on Jul 11, 2022 21:32:24 GMT -5
I think I'd keep Ort over Valdez when it comes time to make room for Sale tomorrow I think Valdez was determined to make your wish come true. No reason to keep him on the roster.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Jul 11, 2022 21:32:24 GMT -5
Barnes ,Robles , brasier, diekman. Can’t any of them have and a clean inning Robles hasn't allowed a baserunner in almost a week!
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Post by bosoxnation on Jul 11, 2022 21:34:03 GMT -5
I guess i’ll get mentally ready for another AL East series L. In my mind i figured Bello wouldn’t have another bad outing. Wrong. hopefully Sale can earn some of his paycheck next game.
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Post by redsox43 on Jul 11, 2022 21:34:55 GMT -5
I think I'd keep Ort over Valdez when it comes time to make room for Sale tomorrow Aren't they demoting Bello?
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Post by redsox43 on Jul 11, 2022 21:36:13 GMT -5
Diekman always has to add a little excitement to his appearances.
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 11, 2022 21:36:24 GMT -5
Rays have about 48 ground ball hits this game. Last half inning for the Rays, after Dalbec was Dalbec: .200 xBA forceout .250 xBA single .020 xBA sac fly .400 xBA single .350 xBA single .460 xBA single .000 xBA flyout Absolutely ridiculous luck. They have a .270 xBA for the game and they have 10 runs on 14 hits. .400 BA. Meanwhile the Sox have a .278 xBA and a .272 BA. This game is cursed.
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Post by wkdbigsoxfan on Jul 11, 2022 21:37:57 GMT -5
The Rays have scored 25 runs in the last three games vs the Sox. They’ve barreled two balls to get there with XBA of 272, 270 and 269. Sick
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Post by station13 on Jul 11, 2022 21:41:12 GMT -5
Maybe Nick Green can start over Dalbec tomorrow.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 11, 2022 21:44:38 GMT -5
I think I'd keep Ort over Valdez when it comes time to make room for Sale tomorrow Aren't they demoting Bello? Oh yeah, maybe. Someone's gotta come off the 40 man, though. Eovaldi is gonna get another 26 man roster spot this week I think
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 11, 2022 21:44:48 GMT -5
I would option Dalbec tomorrow if it meant having a 25-man roster. I'm starting to take it personally how atrocious he is on both sides of the ball. He disgraces my computer screen.
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Post by wkdbigsoxfan on Jul 11, 2022 21:44:55 GMT -5
In the last 7 games the Sox have had an xwoba of 300 and given up a 270. Outscored by 8 runs during that timespan. And that was before tonight
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Post by redsox43 on Jul 11, 2022 22:03:26 GMT -5
Aren't they demoting Bello? Oh yeah, maybe. Someone's gotta come off the 40 man, though. Eovaldi is gonna get another 26 man roster spot this week I think Yeah Kiké probably going on the 60 day dl probably, like you mentioned earlier. He isn't even close to coming back.
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Post by philip on Jul 11, 2022 22:16:16 GMT -5
The Red Sox need to lengthen the lineup and improve infield defense. Go get bell. Also They have only 3 dependable relief pitchers. They need Whitlock to get healthy. Hope Crawford stays in Boston when the other starters come back to reinforce the bullpen too.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 11, 2022 22:21:48 GMT -5
Barnes ,Robles , brasier, diekman. Can’t any of them have and a clean inning Robles hasn't allowed a baserunner in almost a week! He gave up a long home run waiting in line for McDonald's yesterday...
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 11, 2022 22:27:48 GMT -5
The Red Sox need to lengthen the lineup and improve infield defense. Go get bell. Also They have only 3 dependable relief pitchers. They need Whitlock to get healthy. Hope Crawford stays in Boston when the other starters come back to reinforce the bullpen too. I don't think they'll move any of Crawford, Winckowski, Seabold to the bullpen until the end of the AAA season, if they still need them then.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 11, 2022 22:32:09 GMT -5
Hmmm, lots of frustration here about a pretty blah loss after a bad travel day, and - hopefully for nearly the last time - still digging way deep into Worcester to cobble together a starting rotation. This one just doesn't bother me that much. Maybe it's the CBD gummy talking, but those last couple of wins against the Yankees are gonna keep me from getting agitated about any loss for at least a couple days.
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Post by bosoxnation on Jul 11, 2022 22:48:24 GMT -5
Diekman always has to add a little excitement to his appearances. I think Diek will see a trip to the 15 day to get some rest when some of the boys come back.
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Post by manfred on Jul 11, 2022 22:50:26 GMT -5
Hmmm, lots of frustration here about a pretty blah loss after a bad travel day, and - hopefully for nearly the last time - still digging way deep into Worcester to cobble together a starting rotation. This one just doesn't bother me that much. Maybe it's the CBD gummy talking, but those last couple of wins against the Yankees are gonna keep me from getting agitated about any loss for at least a couple days. This is the right attitude. This was just one of those games. Except… the frustration in areas that are on-goingly frustrating (i.e. Dalbec) will pop up in every loss. That, too, is fair at this point.
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Post by GyIantosca on Jul 11, 2022 22:55:33 GMT -5
I’m all for Jeter Downs getting some action, Maybe everything clicks with the promotion.
I tell you he isn’t nervous . He has that attitude that fits in.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 11, 2022 23:05:24 GMT -5
Hmmm, lots of frustration here about a pretty blah loss after a bad travel day, and - hopefully for nearly the last time - still digging way deep into Worcester to cobble together a starting rotation. This one just doesn't bother me that much. Maybe it's the CBD gummy talking, but those last couple of wins against the Yankees are gonna keep me from getting agitated about any loss for at least a couple days. This is the right attitude. This was just one of those games. Except… the frustration in areas that are on-goingly frustrating (i.e. Dalbec) will pop up in every loss. That, too, is fair at this point. The needs are pretty clear at this point. I don't think the Sox need to get an all-stat level talent and give away too much of the farm system. They need to find average to above average players at 1b, rf, and RH relief pitching. I think the Sox have enough quality options at starting pitching although I think it's becoming more clearer than planning on Bello to be part of the 2022 rotation is probably not realistic - his command and control just aren't there yet and he needs more time in the minors. Still between Pivetta, Eovaldi, Sale, Wacha, Winckowski, Paxton, Hill, and Crawford they should be able to find four October worthy starters. They could continue to platoon Cordero/Dalbec at 1b, but I think the platoon isn't exactly Lowenstein/Roenicke. Cordero is a lousy 1b and doesn't hit enough to justify being a lousy 1b. Dalbec is meh. There are a lot of 1b options out there on the open market. I was hoping Casas would be the ultimate option but I don't think they can count on that at this point. They can continue with JBJ andd Refsnyder platooning in RF, but JBJ's good glove just doesn't justify him being an automatic out at the bottom of the order. A corner OF needs to be able to hit. Refsnyder might be a good platoon mate for Duran. The Sox need a RF. Perhaps Cordero is that guy. I don't really think so, but I do think it'll be tougher to get a RF than a 1b. I have a feeling Bloom will be focusing on a guy who can do both, which is why I expect him to go after Garrett Cooper from Miami. They need another RH reliever to go with Houck, Whitlock, and Schreiber. I'd prefer it be a closer so Houck can pitch multiple innings, but it doesn't absolutely need to be a closer, although I think they'd be better off it was, but either way, it has to be a step up from what Brasier and company give them. Fix these three areas, and I don't think it takes all-star level caliber players to do so, the Sox if they stay healthy enough, should be pretty well set for October.
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