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Post by soxfansince67 on Jan 28, 2023 23:07:17 GMT -5
They are lucky to get into overtime. They've been outhustled, outassisted. Not liking Tatum's game very much right now. White, Brown and Brogdon showed up and got them to OT.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jan 28, 2023 23:08:59 GMT -5
Things are totally fine with this team. Nothing to see here. Again, 2 starters missing, the team has slumped some past the halfway point and still has the best record in the NBA. Anyone want to comment about LeBron's reaction at the end as it compares to Tatum's whining? It's what they do in the NBA, I don't like it either but I'm not going to do any pyschological investigations or conclusions based on it. Nothing happening right now is going to effect their attempt at a Championship at the end of the season, other than over -reactions by fans.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jan 28, 2023 23:11:50 GMT -5
Good to see Jaylen stepping up and taking control in OT. He has played well tonight
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jan 28, 2023 23:18:24 GMT -5
And again, in a big spot, Tatum stops and offense and turns it over. Sit him down for hours, make him watch film - and maybe he will see how this screws up the offense.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jan 28, 2023 23:24:28 GMT -5
2 things driving me crazy is how god awful these refs are, and it has been both ways and I have no ideas if it has balanced each other out. That and National Broadcasters talking up the Lakers and trying to will them to be the 'Beast of the West'. Good god they sound pathetic, stop already with that narrative.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jan 28, 2023 23:29:08 GMT -5
Very entertaining, often frustrating, but ultimately satisfying.
If I was handing out stars - Jaylen is first star, Brogden second, White third. Jayson had points and rebounds, but also costly turnovers, missed layups, and often clogged up the flow. He is just not at his best right now.
Big win.
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Post by cdj on Jan 28, 2023 23:29:38 GMT -5
hilarious final ~6 min
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Post by wcp3 on Jan 28, 2023 23:29:41 GMT -5
2 things driving me crazy is how god awful these refs are, and it has been both ways and I have no ideas if it has balanced each other out. That and National Broadcasters talking up the Lakers and trying to will them to be the 'Beast of the West'. Good god they sound pathetic, stop already with that narrative. They can try to hype them all they want, but they just don’t have the talent to do much in a deep Western Conference. Relying on Davis to be fully healthy is always a gamble, and they could not have put a less fitting roster around LeBron. That’s a play-in team at best.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 28, 2023 23:38:49 GMT -5
A win is a win, but Tatum fouled the living sh*t out of Lebron on that drive in regulation lol this team misses Marcus Smart.
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Post by jmei on Jan 29, 2023 8:57:04 GMT -5
Tatum contributed to at least three fast break buckets because he didn’t get back on defense. It’s those kinds of mental errors that are most frustrating because the talent is there, he’s just not always as focused as he needs to be.
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Post by GyIantosca on Jan 29, 2023 16:01:12 GMT -5
Good win, I will take it. Lebron getting a taste how it feels on the other players shoes. But save me the Oscar winning performance after we’re not in Hollywood. Plus it was tied do something about it in OT! Smart move by J. Brown for noticing if he pushes the pace they got this team. Lebron getting old he don’t like to work Overtime. Lol
I have no proof of this at all. But I'm wondering is one of the best traits for Smart is he keeps the team in check on defense. I dont mean him I mean the rest of the team like he calls them out for getting lazy sometimes maybe this is his best quality?
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Post by philarhody on Jan 30, 2023 21:47:39 GMT -5
Tatum contributed to at least three fast break buckets because he didn’t get back on defense. It’s those kinds of mental errors that are most frustrating because the talent is there, he’s just not always as focused as he needs to be. It’s really sad that this guy is a top 3 player in the league when he wants to be. He’s an awesome offensive and defensive player when his attitude isn’t garbage. I’m not sure we have ever seen a player as good as he is who is as hot and cold in his on court demeanor.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jan 30, 2023 22:07:14 GMT -5
Tatum contributed to at least three fast break buckets because he didn’t get back on defense. It’s those kinds of mental errors that are most frustrating because the talent is there, he’s just not always as focused as he needs to be. It’s really sad that this guy is a top 3 player in the league when he wants to be. He’s an awesome offensive and defensive player when his attitude isn’t garbage. I’m not sure we have ever seen a player as good as he is who is as hot and cold in his on court demeanor. I think we have to keep in mind how young he is. I think that I am of two minds about the team in general, and it is similar to what I thought last year. This team is absolutely as good as it wants to be on a given night - what they learned last year in the finals is that you just can't turn off bad habits - they ran out of games. I think they will be fine this year - but there is no guarantee. Careless, piling up of turnovers, playing down to the opponent - they can win enough to easily get to the playoffs - but do they have the discipline and focus and drive to win it all? Hopefully what they learned last year will click in. It certainly makes for interesting watching - it's been fun, and should continue to be. They also need to avoid key injuries - that is another major concern I have.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Feb 1, 2023 20:01:03 GMT -5
Wow - this is how good they can be. What a start!
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Post by soxfansince67 on Feb 1, 2023 21:26:31 GMT -5
9 min left in the 4th - Tatum is a +46. Stellar game. Everybody came to play tonight.
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Post by wcp3 on Feb 1, 2023 21:29:47 GMT -5
Not sure why they don’t just use the “make every 3” strategy every game.
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Post by Don Caballero on Feb 2, 2023 0:38:10 GMT -5
Not sure why they don’t just use the “make every 3” strategy every game. Fresh legs go a long away, they had what, 4 days off? That being said, a 30 point lead in the FIRST QUARTER is bananas. Felt like they were out to make a statement on the previous games.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 2, 2023 7:00:44 GMT -5
For people who think we need wing depth as well as a young developmental guy, what if they could get Cam Reddish for peanuts? Get him in the building before his restricted free agency and see what he’s like, work ethic etc…. Can you unlock something there with all the talent and professionals and winning environment? He’s never had a stable team in the NBA…
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Post by ianrs on Feb 2, 2023 8:59:23 GMT -5
I know the Nets never sniff us especially without KD, but this game shows you the massive importance of rest. Insane.
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Post by jmei on Feb 2, 2023 9:54:42 GMT -5
For people who think we need wing depth as well as a young developmental guy, what if they could get Cam Reddish for peanuts? Get him in the building before his restricted free agency and see what he’s like, work ethic etc…. Can you unlock something there with all the talent and professionals and winning environment? He’s never had a stable team in the NBA… This feels more like a "go all in to win a title" season than a "take a flier on a guy for next year" season and so I'd rather use those assets and minutes on a guy who is more likely to contribute meaningful minutes in the playoffs this year. ADD: that's also why I'm more concerned about wing depth than big man depth. If one of Horford or R. Williams is injured, they're probably not winning the title anyways, so upgrading the third big is less of a priority for me. Meanwhile, despite having a 30-point lead after the first quarter, Tatum still played 29 minutes and Brown still played 31 minutes yesterday. Tatum is second in the league in minutes per game (37.3) and Brown is just a couple minutes behind (35.9). Getting those guys some rest and upgrading the 15 Hauser/Pritchard minutes in the playoffs (where they will have a target on their back) is huge for me.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 2, 2023 12:41:42 GMT -5
I think it's two different issues, what's this teams biggest need? Then that our coach went from coaching like Stevens to like Ime the first road bump in the season. Tatum and Brown are 24 and 26, their minutes are up 1.4 minutes and 2.3 minutes so far over last year per game. This team has the talent and depth to shave a few minutes off each player per game without adding anyone.
I don't disagree we could use a defensive wing. Yet finding a guy good enough to play 15 minutes a night in the playoffs is a rather tall order. It means taking minutes away from White, Brogdon and Smart. Who is out there at that level? Jae Crowder fits that bill, yet he asked for a trade because he didn't want to come off the bench for the Suns though. He's leadership, toughness, playoff experience. If you can get a guy like him that doesn't cost a ton, absolutely. Yet who are those guys?
I actually think you can win in the playoffs with a Horford or Robert Williams injury if you get a quality big. Against most teams Tatum can play PF, you have Grant Williams and more than enough depth to fill out the rotations. If you have a back up big that can play good D, rebound and protect the rim. Helps you limit minutes on your oldest player and your most injury worried one. Which could help you reduce minutes on Tatum and Brown.
I'd certainly think about Reddish if he fit into Schroders exception, yet he's barely over. Not likely the best option, yet you don't need a starting level player. I'm also 100% about thinking about this year and the future. How can you not? Tatum and Brown are 24 and 26, this isn’t the end of the big 3, this is just getting started and our GM has traded all our first round picks. There's certainly enough talent there to take a look if you can get him for almost nothing.
I'm still crazy high on Mo Bamba. I understand the interest in Poeltl, yet trading another first isn’t on my list of things to do. Also what do you do with him if Horford and Williams stay healthy? You aren't resigning him, it's a pure rental. I just feel were going to become every LeBron team if we keep trading every 1st round pick.
Wild card is Payton Pritchard, he might net you a piece you need. Lakers trade first get Pritchard, we get Saddiq Bey using that pick or something like that. Pritchard to Danny for Vanderbilt and Azubuike.
My two sleepers are Udoka Azubuike and Kessler Edwards. Azubuike has cut his fouls for 3 straight years, per 36 minutes 15.2 points, 13.7 rebounds, 2.5 assists, 1 steal and 2 blocks. Edwards was my binky in the draft and looked rather good starting for Nets last year. They brought in veterans and he's completely out of the rotation. He's a massive upgrade on D compared to Hauser and can rebound, get steals and even block shots. While not turning over the ball over. He like thrives in our system compared to the way the Nets play.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 14:11:09 GMT -5
Week from today is the NBA trade deadline. Should be interesting week I like Jakob Poeltl, cdj mention him few months ago as a trade target. As long it's not 2 first round draft picks the asking price.
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Post by texs31 on Feb 2, 2023 14:15:42 GMT -5
Bulpett reporting that Miami and Boston are both interested in an Olynyk reunion but his sources suggest it won't happen.
Keith Smith says to keep an eye on Will Barton (though likely in the buyout market).
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Post by cdj on Feb 2, 2023 14:17:07 GMT -5
I’d love Vanderbilt
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Post by nomar on Feb 2, 2023 14:36:42 GMT -5
Me too. The rebounding would be a disaster with Olynyk, and I think the difference in price tag between Poeltl and Vanderbilt is bigger than the gap in their production.
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