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Post by soxfansince67 on Feb 14, 2023 20:41:23 GMT -5
No Smart, Tatum or Brown - and only 2 turnovers in the first half with 17 assists. No matter if Boston wins - this is an important game for them for bench players keeping them very close.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Feb 14, 2023 21:00:17 GMT -5
Muscala showing what a great pick up he was. White running the team really well. Big game from Griffin. What a fun watch so far.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Feb 14, 2023 21:42:19 GMT -5
Celtics running out of gas - shots not falling. Not over yet - Holiday is killing them.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Feb 14, 2023 22:00:33 GMT -5
Hauser. Wow. Just a wonderful game to watch tonight.
Bonus basketball. Amazing.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Feb 14, 2023 22:15:56 GMT -5
Bad decision by Grant to put it on the floor. Almost. Played their hearts out.
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Post by philarhody on Feb 14, 2023 22:16:02 GMT -5
Man they should have won this one tonight.
Jrue is such a Celtics killer.
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Post by wcp3 on Feb 14, 2023 22:17:22 GMT -5
Pathetic loss.
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Post by wcp3 on Feb 14, 2023 22:18:07 GMT -5
Just kidding. That was a great, GREAT effort.
(Aside from Mazzulla, who once again forgot timeouts exist)
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Post by cdj on Feb 14, 2023 22:19:37 GMT -5
Grant really makes me quite mad at times
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Post by Don Caballero on Feb 14, 2023 22:24:07 GMT -5
It took a 76 point combined effort by Giannis and Jrue to beat 0 of our starters. What an amazing game. Blake Griffin is BALLING in the past few games.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2023 23:45:56 GMT -5
Celtics bench players had so much heart in this game we lost but win. This type of game can't help Milwaukee confidence in getting past Boston when they meet in playoffs.
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Post by cdj on Feb 15, 2023 1:17:36 GMT -5
Hospital Celtics beat the Bucks in 7
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 15, 2023 7:00:25 GMT -5
Grant really makes me quite mad at times He played 48 of 53 minutes and was a plus 9. Team was minus 14 in the 5 minutes he didn’t play. Every player is frustrating at times in the moment, but picture tho, he was great last night. |
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Post by cdj on Feb 15, 2023 8:54:57 GMT -5
Grant really makes me quite mad at times He played 48 of 53 minutes and was a plus 9. Team was minus 14 in the 5 minutes he didn’t play. Every player is frustrating at times in the moment, but picture tho, he was great last night. Eh, 5 pretty bad turnovers including turning down a good look on that last possession only to give it away. Most of them turnovers being of the stupid variety. I wouldn’t call it a “great” game- he’s not a primary ball handler he should never have that many turnovers. He made some open 3’s tho and played his usual surprisingly good d on Giannis. He’s just a very frustrating player at times. Tries to do too much, thinks he’s better than he actually is (which is reflected in him thinking he’s worth 20 mil per) |
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Post by soxfansince67 on Feb 15, 2023 9:59:20 GMT -5
White, Brogdon, and Hauser were in "wow" territory last night. Too bad Muscala got cold late in the game. Agree with cdj on Grant - hard to know what to think of him, but I have a general feeling his view of his talents are a bit higher than reality. No shame in that loss - but it was so close. Rob Williams had a kind of head scratching game - or perhaps Mazzulla's use of him is more the point. Can't ask much more of a swiss cheese due to injury team than we saw last night.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 15, 2023 12:45:40 GMT -5
He played 48 of 53 minutes and was a plus 9. Team was minus 14 in the 5 minutes he didn’t play. Every player is frustrating at times in the moment, but picture tho, he was great last night. Eh, 5 pretty bad turnovers including turning down a good look on that last possession only to give it away. Most of them turnovers being of the stupid variety. I wouldn’t call it a “great” game- he’s not a primary ball handler he should never have that many turnovers. He made some open 3’s tho and played his usual surprisingly good d on Giannis. He’s just a very frustrating player at times. Tries to do too much, thinks he’s better than he actually is (which is reflected in him thinking he’s worth 20 mil per) For me it's really the wants 20 million a year part. Fine game by a bench player playing way too many minutes. Certainly not what you want from a young player that thinks he's worth that. He's creating the first big challenging decision Stevens needs to make. We now know why his name surprisingly came up at deadline now. You want to resign him, yet 20 million is just way too much with the luxury tax. |
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Post by cdj on Feb 15, 2023 13:14:13 GMT -5
White, Brogdon, and Hauser were in "wow" territory last night. Too bad Muscala got cold late in the game. Agree with cdj on Grant - hard to know what to think of him, but I have a general feeling his view of his talents are a bit higher than reality. No shame in that loss - but it was so close. Rob Williams had a kind of head scratching game - or perhaps Mazzulla's use of him is more the point. Can't ask much more of a swiss cheese due to injury team than we saw last night. Re: Williams being limited and the starters sitting- I think a lot of that is them wanting to hide some things from Milwaukee in the regular season |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 15, 2023 13:27:07 GMT -5
Eh, 5 pretty bad turnovers including turning down a good look on that last possession only to give it away. Most of them turnovers being of the stupid variety. I wouldn’t call it a “great” game- he’s not a primary ball handler he should never have that many turnovers. He made some open 3’s tho and played his usual surprisingly good d on Giannis. He’s just a very frustrating player at times. Tries to do too much, thinks he’s better than he actually is (which is reflected in him thinking he’s worth 20 mil per) For me it's really the wants 20 million a year part. Fine game by a bench player playing way too many minutes. Certainly not what you want from a young player that thinks he's worth that. He's creating the first big challenging decision Stevens needs to make. We now know why his name surprisingly came up at deadline now. You want to resign him, yet 20 million is just way too much with the luxury tax. Y’all need to start rethinking what a $20m player is. The salary cap is set to explode over the next few years. Grant at $20m might be borderline high the first couple years of his deal then it all be a bargain the last 2 or 3. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 15, 2023 14:55:23 GMT -5
For me it's really the wants 20 million a year part. Fine game by a bench player playing way too many minutes. Certainly not what you want from a young player that thinks he's worth that. He's creating the first big challenging decision Stevens needs to make. We now know why his name surprisingly came up at deadline now. You want to resign him, yet 20 million is just way too much with the luxury tax. Y’all need to start rethinking what a $20m player is. The salary cap is set to explode over the next few years. Grant at $20m might be borderline high the first couple years of his deal then it all be a bargain the last 2 or 3. What do you have for numbers? I'm seeing 124 to 134, 141, 148 and 155. Mid-level from 10.5 to 13.2 million. That's not an explosion like the NFL cap. I'd put his value around 12.5 million now and 15.5 million in four years. Only way that deal looks like a bargain is if Grant Williams becomes a totally different player. |
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Post by cdj on Feb 15, 2023 15:23:39 GMT -5
For me it's really the wants 20 million a year part. Fine game by a bench player playing way too many minutes. Certainly not what you want from a young player that thinks he's worth that. He's creating the first big challenging decision Stevens needs to make. We now know why his name surprisingly came up at deadline now. You want to resign him, yet 20 million is just way too much with the luxury tax. Y’all need to start rethinking what a $20m player is. The salary cap is set to explode over the next few years. Grant at $20m might be borderline high the first couple years of his deal then it all be a bargain the last 2 or 3. Oh I’ve already adjusted, I still don’t think Grant is a $20 mill player. I’d pay him $16 mill tops. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Feb 15, 2023 16:09:05 GMT -5
For me it's really the wants 20 million a year part. Fine game by a bench player playing way too many minutes. Certainly not what you want from a young player that thinks he's worth that. He's creating the first big challenging decision Stevens needs to make. We now know why his name surprisingly came up at deadline now. You want to resign him, yet 20 million is just way too much with the luxury tax. The part of him wanting that money is irrelevant, I also want 20 million a year, who doesn't? The question is whether someone is actually willing to pay him that money and IF so should the Celtics match it. Replacing Grant is damn hard and Horford is the only viable starting PF they have on the roster if they don't want to play Tatum at the 4. Trying to go for a bargain player on a possibly starting position when you're a title contender for the foreseeable future is really not great. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 15, 2023 17:37:40 GMT -5
Y’all need to start rethinking what a $20m player is. The salary cap is set to explode over the next few years. Grant at $20m might be borderline high the first couple years of his deal then it all be a bargain the last 2 or 3. What do you have for numbers? I'm seeing 124 to 134, 141, 148 and 155. Mid-level from 10.5 to 13.2 million. That's not an explosion like the NFL cap. I'd put his value around 12.5 million now and 15.5 million in four years. Only way that deal looks like a bargain is if Grant Williams becomes a totally different player. There’s a lot of speculation the 2025 cap is up at 175m - so that’s cap not even luxury tax number. They are likely to ink a tv seal that’s 3 times greater than the current one. www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2022/08/05/why-nba-teams-should-already-be-planning-for-the-2025-offseason/amp/ |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 15, 2023 17:43:25 GMT -5
For me it's really the wants 20 million a year part. Fine game by a bench player playing way too many minutes. Certainly not what you want from a young player that thinks he's worth that. He's creating the first big challenging decision Stevens needs to make. We now know why his name surprisingly came up at deadline now. You want to resign him, yet 20 million is just way too much with the luxury tax. The part of him wanting that money is irrelevant, I also want 20 million a year, who doesn't? The question is whether someone is actually willing to pay him that money and IF so should the Celtics match it. Replacing Grant is damn hard and Horford is the only viable starting PF they have on the roster if they don't want to play Tatum at the 4. Trying to go for a bargain player on a possibly starting position when you're a title contender for the foreseeable future is really not great. Agree with this. You can want whatever you want but you have to actually get it. Celtics are smart to let him see what the market is. Also, when people complain about things such as “he thinks he’s better than he is”, it kind of baffles me. He never complains about his role and there’s never talk about him wanting to go elsewhere for a bigger one, so that suggests he accepts who he is as a player. So what’s the issue? The swagger? The complaining? Trash talking? That’s confidence. That’s what you want players to have. It’s how they can be effective. I wish he talked less but if that is part of the confidence do be it |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 15, 2023 18:07:45 GMT -5
For me it's really the wants 20 million a year part. Fine game by a bench player playing way too many minutes. Certainly not what you want from a young player that thinks he's worth that. He's creating the first big challenging decision Stevens needs to make. We now know why his name surprisingly came up at deadline now. You want to resign him, yet 20 million is just way too much with the luxury tax. The part of him wanting that money is irrelevant, I also want 20 million a year, who doesn't? The question is whether someone is actually willing to pay him that money and IF so should the Celtics match it. Replacing Grant is damn hard and Horford is the only viable starting PF they have on the roster if they don't want to play Tatum at the 4. Trying to go for a bargain player on a possibly starting position when you're a title contender for the foreseeable future is really not great. That's the problem, some stupid team might do just that and no I wouldn't match it. That's a huge issue. I'm willing to overpay slightly, yet Grant's asking price went from 14/15 million, now to around $20. Can't help but think our deadline deal is also insurance incase Grant gets a crazy offer. |
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