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Post by julyanmorley on Dec 6, 2023 15:22:19 GMT -5
So if Slaten doesn't stay on the roster, he has to be offered back to the Rangers. But the trade portion, Ammons to the Mets doesn't get "undone" in that case if I'm correct. Yes, Ammons is gone
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Post by julyanmorley on Dec 6, 2023 15:24:15 GMT -5
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Post by tjb21 on Dec 6, 2023 15:24:33 GMT -5
Well looks like the Red Sox did get a Rule 5 guy as the Ryan Ammons trade was for Justin Slaten who the Mets took (Mets picked ahead of the Red Sox). Interesting arm and interesting trade. Things continue to look more bleak for Mata making the roster.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Dec 6, 2023 15:58:20 GMT -5
This is a guy who looks ideal for the Sox. Great pick.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Dec 6, 2023 16:12:41 GMT -5
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Post by soxin8 on Dec 6, 2023 16:22:02 GMT -5
why was everybody bullying us The Sox have a top 10 farm system so we should have anticipated this.
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 6, 2023 16:34:38 GMT -5
I would rather have Drohan and his usable options over Slaten having to stick on the 26-man. It's a false choice though, there's plenty of room on the 40 for both.
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Post by ghostofjuanpena on Dec 6, 2023 16:36:22 GMT -5
Only difference is IMO Slaten has major league stuff, Drohan doesn’t
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 6, 2023 18:19:30 GMT -5
Only difference is IMO Slaten has major league stuff, Drohan doesn’t I disagree strongly.
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Post by ephus on Dec 6, 2023 18:30:52 GMT -5
I would rather have Drohan and his usable options over Slaten having to stick on the 26-man. It's a false choice though, there's plenty of room on the 40 for both. Am I wromg that another way to look at this is having Mata and Slaten rather than Drohan? To protect Drohan someone else is unprotected, right? Or am I oversimplifying?
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 6, 2023 18:36:14 GMT -5
I would rather have Drohan and his usable options over Slaten having to stick on the 26-man. It's a false choice though, there's plenty of room on the 40 for both. Am I wromg that another way to look at this is having Mata and Slaten rather than Drohan? To protect Drohan someone else is unprotected, right? Or am I oversimplifying? There are two empty spots on the 40 man right now.
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Post by wOBA Fett on Dec 6, 2023 19:46:02 GMT -5
Am I wromg that another way to look at this is having Mata and Slaten rather than Drohan? To protect Drohan someone else is unprotected, right? Or am I oversimplifying? There are two empty spots on the 40 man right now. With 4-5 fungible arms you could DFA and live with (Mata, LLovera, Jacques, Kelly, Weiss)
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Post by notstarboard on Dec 6, 2023 22:10:51 GMT -5
Am I wromg that another way to look at this is having Mata and Slaten rather than Drohan? To protect Drohan someone else is unprotected, right? Or am I oversimplifying? There are two empty spots on the 40 man right now. But if the intention is to fill those spots with free agents this offseason... Slaten vs. Drohan is now fair as a direct comparison, for sure, but the open 40-man spots shouldn't matter unless they're still open when the season starts.
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Post by GyIantosca on Dec 6, 2023 22:45:06 GMT -5
BA says Rangers RHP Justin Slaten is receiving the most buzz, while MLB Pipeline lists Mitch Spence, Matt Sauer, Justin Slaten, Cole Wilcox, Tanner Burns, Tobias Myers, Coleman Crow, and Nasim Nunez. I still wouldn't be surprised if a Red Sox got drafted, but doesn't sound like they're receiving the most buzz. Nice
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Post by GyIantosca on Dec 6, 2023 22:47:18 GMT -5
Brock Bell was my binky and last season Bladlock. I liked those 2. What can you do?
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Post by GyIantosca on Dec 6, 2023 22:52:32 GMT -5
Brock Bell was my binky and last season Bladlock. I liked those 2. What can you do? I hope MLB can get going now. I interested to see how he addresses this pitching. The rest of the roster.
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Post by soxin8 on Dec 6, 2023 23:31:05 GMT -5
Am I wromg that another way to look at this is having Mata and Slaten rather than Drohan? To protect Drohan someone else is unprotected, right? Or am I oversimplifying? There are two empty spots on the 40 man right now. The Sox should be signing at least 4 free agents so they may be losing at least lose 2 more players to waiver claims. Any chance Weiss, Robertson and Dalbec pass through waivers?
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Post by soxin8 on Dec 7, 2023 2:16:37 GMT -5
MLB.com puts Slaten at 25 in their top 30 list.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Dec 7, 2023 7:47:20 GMT -5
Well looks like the Red Sox did get a Rule 5 guy as the Ryan Ammons trade was for Justin Slaten who the Mets took (Mets picked ahead of the Red Sox). Interesting arm and interesting trade. Things continue to look more bleak for Mata making the roster. On the bright side, there are bound to be injuries…
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Post by scottysmalls on Dec 7, 2023 7:48:24 GMT -5
Serious question, if they liked Slaten so much why not acquire him before the roster deadline and add him to the 40? Would the price have been much steeper than Ammons?
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Post by greatscottcooper on Dec 7, 2023 8:10:07 GMT -5
Serious question, if they liked Slaten so much why not acquire him before the roster deadline and add him to the 40? Would the price have been much steeper than Ammons? Maybe? maybe they just figured he would be there for them when it was there turn to pick.
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Post by soxin8 on Dec 7, 2023 10:13:27 GMT -5
Serious question, if they liked Slaten so much why not acquire him before the roster deadline and add him to the 40? Would the price have been much steeper than Ammons? Ammons was a 10th round 50,000 sign. Looking at last year's bonuses, he would be the least valuable prospect in Boston's eyes and Texas certainly would not have traded Slaten for him. Just like the Sox would not have traded Drohan for another team's 10th round pick. Texas hoped he would not be chosen.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Dec 7, 2023 10:45:46 GMT -5
Serious question, if they liked Slaten so much why not acquire him before the roster deadline and add him to the 40? Would the price have been much steeper than Ammons? Ammons was a 10th round 50,000 sign. Looking at last year's bonuses, he would be the least valuable prospect in Boston's eyes and Texas certainly would not have traded Slaten for him. Just like the Sox would not have traded Drohan for another team's 10th round pick. Texas hoped he would not be chosen. Yeah, it’s splitting hairs at that point. The Mets clearly liked Ammons a little bit more than Slaten (hard to imagine the extra money was very much - prolly just rule 5 picking fee) and vice versa for the Sox. At that level of prospects, clubs just see different qualities that they like or think they have a fix for.
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Post by julyanmorley on Dec 7, 2023 10:59:11 GMT -5
Serious question, if they liked Slaten so much why not acquire him before the roster deadline and add him to the 40? Would the price have been much steeper than Ammons? Not many trade like this happen before the deadline. Probably just too hard for all parties to have enough information about each other to make a deal
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Post by soxin8 on Dec 7, 2023 11:10:33 GMT -5
Ammons was a 10th round 50,000 sign. Looking at last year's bonuses, he would be the least valuable prospect in Boston's eyes and Texas certainly would not have traded Slaten for him. Just like the Sox would not have traded Drohan for another team's 10th round pick. Texas hoped he would not be chosen. Yeah, it’s splitting hairs at that point. The Mets clearly liked Ammons a little bit more than Slaten (hard to imagine the extra money was very much - prolly just rule 5 picking fee) and vice versa for the Sox. At that level of prospects, clubs just see different qualities that they like or think they have a fix for. I don't think the Mets like Ammons more than Slaten. They didn't want to draft Slaten. Boston had to have made this deal before the draft and they accepted a very small price to pick Slaten for Boston so another team wouldn't take him before Boston's chance to pick.
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