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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 12, 2023 13:00:36 GMT -5
If Tyler Boyd gets cut I’d throw money at him Isn't Boyd just a Meyers type WR? It will be very interesting how many good players get cut with so many teams way over the salary cap. Seen WR Allen from Chargers. It might change the whole free agent WR class and if we're lucky drive down Meyers price. |
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Post by philarhody on Feb 13, 2023 10:10:49 GMT -5
The Chiefs 2022 draft class aligned more closely with PFF’s board than any draft class, ever.
I don’t feel like this stuff needs to be complicated.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 13, 2023 12:50:54 GMT -5
The Chiefs 2022 draft class aligned more closely with PFF’s board than any draft class, ever. I don’t feel like this stuff needs to be complicated. I have to ask, what's your point? You feel that 2022 class is the reason they won? Likely the biggest impactful player was a 7th round RB from Rutgers. Which frankly is funny. I come away going the bar to win with a non mobile QB is crazy high. Both teams great OL and QB that can also make plays with their feet. Yet great OL on both teams! If you want to talk draft I come away going trade up from taking Perkins and get Nick Bolton in the 2021 draft. Jones, Barmore, Bolton and Stevenson. Yeah for some reason Bill is allergic to athletic LB. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 13, 2023 17:01:38 GMT -5
The Chiefs 2022 draft class aligned more closely with PFF’s board than any draft class, ever. I don’t feel like this stuff needs to be complicated. Was that how it worked out in the end for them or did Andy Reid and his crew just draft based on pff’s board? Also I bet this current Pats roster would have performed better with a QB like Patrick Mahomes. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 13, 2023 17:47:46 GMT -5
The Chiefs 2022 draft class aligned more closely with PFF’s board than any draft class, ever. I don’t feel like this stuff needs to be complicated. Was that how it worked out in the end for them or did Andy Reid and his crew just draft based on pff’s board? Also I bet this current Pats roster would have performed better with a QB like Patrick Mahomes. You think the roster would have performed better with a veteran QB who’s also the best QB in the league? We don’t allow hot takes like that here. |
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Post by texs31 on Feb 17, 2023 18:16:15 GMT -5
Slater coming back for another go.
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Post by texs31 on Feb 19, 2023 8:11:25 GMT -5
Patriots bringing back McDermott. Likely the #1 Swing Tackle candidate when camp comes around.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 19, 2023 18:01:53 GMT -5
McDermott wasn't anything special, not even close. Yet he certainly helped a lot and it was rather amazing the difference he made. Solid depth move at worst.
I wish I knew what the Patriots thought of Chasen Hines, Kody Russey and Andrew Stueber.
Nevermind Tre Nixon.
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Post by philarhody on Feb 19, 2023 20:02:03 GMT -5
The Chiefs 2022 draft class aligned more closely with PFF’s board than any draft class, ever. I don’t feel like this stuff needs to be complicated. I have to ask, what's your point? You feel that 2022 class is the reason they won? Likely the biggest impactful player was a 7th round RB from Rutgers. Which frankly is funny. My point is, the teams that take the consensus best players are better off than the teams that get cute and trust their own boards. I’ve heard draft pundits saying things like “I think I would draft better than most nfl gm’s” and I’m starting to believe them. www.nfl.com/_amp/chiefs-super-bowl-success-started-with-historic-2022-draft-class |
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Post by philarhody on Feb 19, 2023 20:07:24 GMT -5
The Chiefs 2022 draft class aligned more closely with PFF’s board than any draft class, ever. I don’t feel like this stuff needs to be complicated. Was that how it worked out in the end for them or did Andy Reid and his crew just draft based on pff’s board? Also I bet this current Pats roster would have performed better with a QB like Patrick Mahomes. Almost a quarter of their Super Bowl starters were drafted rookies. And sub players Leo Chenal and Skye Moore proved pivotal as well. So yeah, that’s how “it worked out in the end for them.” |
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Post by bigmarty58 on Feb 20, 2023 9:24:19 GMT -5
Is Bill really going to move on from Mac Jones or is this just off season banter to keep us interested. I would like to see what kind of chemistry BOB and Mac could have next season. A number one receiver would also be nice please.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 21, 2023 2:08:08 GMT -5
I have to ask, what's your point? You feel that 2022 class is the reason they won? Likely the biggest impactful player was a 7th round RB from Rutgers. Which frankly is funny. My point is, the teams that take the consensus best players are better off than the teams that get cute and trust their own boards. I’ve heard draft pundits saying things like “I think I would draft better than most nfl gm’s” and I’m starting to believe them. www.nfl.com/_amp/chiefs-super-bowl-success-started-with-historic-2022-draft-classYour case in point to make that argument is the Chiefs 2022 draft class based off games played? I just think that's a poor example, just my humble opinion. We literally got to see that with the Raiders and it was an epic failure. Honest question do you feel better about Moore rated like 26th by PFF versus Thornton rated around 150? You might be able to make a good argument using the Chiefs and your theory, it would just be how they draft over like the last ten years. Yet PFF didn't have their 7th round RB even ranked in the top 250 and look at the guys who go undrafted every year. I'm a draft nut and the NFL draft is crap shoot more than an exact science. That 2022 Chiefs team kinda reminds me of past Patriots teams with Brady. That Eagles team had more overall talent, yet Chiefs had the better elite QB. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 21, 2023 2:16:28 GMT -5
Is Bill really going to move on from Mac Jones or is this just off season banter to keep us interested. I would like to see what kind of chemistry BOB and Mac could have next season. A number one receiver would also be nice please. It's likely just smoke meant to get clicks. Yet you can't rule out Bill being pissed and moving on if a great opportunity presents itself. |
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Post by beasleyrockah on Feb 21, 2023 14:38:07 GMT -5
I have to ask, what's your point? You feel that 2022 class is the reason they won? Likely the biggest impactful player was a 7th round RB from Rutgers. Which frankly is funny. My point is, the teams that take the consensus best players are better off than the teams that get cute and trust their own boards. I’ve heard draft pundits saying things like “I think I would draft better than most nfl gm’s” and I’m starting to believe them. www.nfl.com/_amp/chiefs-super-bowl-success-started-with-historic-2022-draft-classMike Mayock tried it and failed miserably. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 24, 2023 21:53:35 GMT -5
Rams going to trade Ramsey…. He’d look great in this defense.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 25, 2023 18:59:21 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 25, 2023 19:05:14 GMT -5
Ramsey is like most trade targets I see mentioned, there isn't enough value in the contracts to trade much for them.
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Post by philarhody on Feb 25, 2023 20:53:38 GMT -5
Mike Mayock tried it and failed miserably. Yeah I meant the pff types, not the Mel Kiper types. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 27, 2023 14:02:21 GMT -5
If you use PFF final 2022 big board, our top two picks would have been George Karlaftis and Skyy Moore. Now I loved Karlaftis, yet with Uche finally reaching his upside he's just a rotational piece. Skyy Moore playing on a great offense, with a great QB and not much at WR did less than Thornton.
You then what miss out of Jack or Marcus Jones going after an LG? That's the problem with just going off rankings, not looking at need, fit, systems the teams play, long-term team building, etc.
Skyy Moore is a great athlete, yet he played down to his competition and was thus rather raw. Reminded me of Kevin Austin Jr. who went undrafted. They both set themselves up for contested catches, rather than using their great athletic ability to get open. To be fair Austins off field issues are the likely reason he went undrafted.
I'm just not seeing the magic, they're like most draft rankings. They are better on some players and worse on others. Michael Renner since 2019 is their top draft guy doing the rankings.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 28, 2023 11:51:06 GMT -5
Like I said before I'd look at adding a dual threat QB in the mid to late rounds. Why? Not completely sold on Mac Jones and literally it will help prepare our D using him on scout team. What better way to prepare for the type of QB that hurt you last year, than having a guy in practice that can actually play that way to prepare you. Mac Jones and Zappe aren't anything like new age QBs.
My top pick is Jaren Hall, who should fit our offense. If he's available in 4th to 6th rounds it could certainly make sense.
I'll add Hendon Hooker if he drops in the draft due to his injury, which means a complete red shirt year. He's your swing for the fences type guy with a Cannon for an arm. Yet came from a single read offense, likely takes a lot of time like Stidham to adjust.
Max Duggan given where he's projected to go. Big cons is pocket awareness and while he's a very good runner, he doesn't throw on the run well. Yet he's a dual threat QB, tough as nails and plays his best in big games.
This might change given the wonderlic test, as you need to be well above average for a Patriots QB. Yet by all accounts Hall should be that guy.
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Post by costpet on Feb 28, 2023 13:21:15 GMT -5
With 11 picks don’t forget we need some kickers. A punter and a kicker who can put the ball in the end zone. He will grab a couple in the later rounds.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 1, 2023 12:10:41 GMT -5
Monte Pottebaum FB Iowa per DTP draft guide rated as 7th round guy. Great in run and pass blocking, former LB. Right now offers very little besides blocking, yet has some upside. Listed at 6'1" 246. Might be an undrafted guy, yet let's have the option in camp of blocking TE and FB.
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Post by philarhody on Mar 1, 2023 17:15:41 GMT -5
Jalen Carter is going to be mocked to the Patriots, and Bill seems to like this type of defensive tackle.
I don’t.
The things I like in defensive tackles are freaky size (long or stout, see Jeffry Simmons, Chris Jones, Wilfork, or Dexter Lawrence), freaky athleticism (Cortez Kennedy, Aaron Donald), freaky production (Barmore) or some combination of all those traits (Warren sapp).
Jalen Carter fits none of those categories, and yet many years we see 6’3, 300 lb defensive tackles like him and Tommy Harris and Malcolm Brown and Dominique Easley go too high in the draft. And now he killed a couple dudes, so he’s going to “fall” in the 1st round.
Pass.
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Post by cdj on Mar 1, 2023 20:51:34 GMT -5
i think it’s a little much to say he killed people. You don’t get misdemeanors for killing
He’s also a great player, there’s a reason he was in discussion for the 1st non Qb to come off the board
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Mar 2, 2023 15:05:20 GMT -5
One doesn't get to start for Georgia D without being freaky good, eh?
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