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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 5, 2023 7:37:10 GMT -5
Just read that Yoshida was disappointed he couldn't get the ball back. Also didn't realize the kid that got the ball didn't catch it nor did any of the family members. A Pirates fan did and then gave it to a child as a gift. The fan then tried to help with giving the ball back. What a bummer. share.newsbreak.com/3hznyxdc
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Post by cdj on Apr 5, 2023 11:17:02 GMT -5
Cherington is a good GM. He was here and he’s even better in Pitt now that he has no money to spend on bad FA’s
Verdugo Devers Turner Yoshida Casas Arroyo Tapia Chang Wong
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Post by taiwansox on Apr 5, 2023 11:47:08 GMT -5
Cherington is a good GM. He was here and he’s even better in Pitt now that he has no money to spend on bad FA’s Verdugo Devers Turner Yoshida Casas Arroyo Tapia Chang Wong His drafts were so brutal though, I don’t think there’s been a 5 year stretch with as little pitching production as his tenure. Best pick was Kopech who DD flipped thank god
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 5, 2023 11:49:57 GMT -5
Kopech is lowkey flaming out too
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Post by incandenza on Apr 5, 2023 12:02:38 GMT -5
Cherington is a good GM. He was here and he’s even better in Pitt now that he has no money to spend on bad FA’s Verdugo Devers Turner Yoshida Casas Arroyo Tapia Chang Wong His drafts were so brutal though, I don’t think there’s been a 5 year stretch with as little pitching production as his tenure. Best pick was Kopech who DD flipped thank god Yeah but other than the poor drafts, and the terrible big money free agent signings, and the failure to add prospects through trades when given the opportunity... well, Victorino worked out, I guess.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 5, 2023 12:16:26 GMT -5
His drafts were so brutal though, I don’t think there’s been a 5 year stretch with as little pitching production as his tenure. Best pick was Kopech who DD flipped thank god Yeah but other than the poor drafts, and the terrible big money free agent signings, and the failure to add prospects through trades when given the opportunity... well, Victorino worked out, I guess. Agree. Cherington was the worst GM among the new ownership group (so far). In fact, if he didn't luck into a WS, he probably would've been canned a year earlier than he was.
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Post by taiwansox on Apr 5, 2023 12:19:42 GMT -5
His drafts were so brutal though, I don’t think there’s been a 5 year stretch with as little pitching production as his tenure. Best pick was Kopech who DD flipped thank god Yeah but other than the poor drafts, and the terrible big money free agent signings, and the failure to add prospects through trades when given the opportunity... well, Victorino worked out, I guess. Don’t forget the terrible trades (Bailey, Hanrahan (Holt consolation), Melancon (then dumping him for Hanrahan), Craig for Lackey). So much value destruction lol
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 5, 2023 12:22:50 GMT -5
Wow - watching Alex Speier - 9% of the Sox pitches are "meatballs" - so the home runs are bad command. I thought this was the spring training where all sorts of things would be cleaned up - command, defense, baserunning - the little details.
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Post by manfred on Apr 5, 2023 12:40:17 GMT -5
Kluber looks… finished. His stuff is seriously unimpressive.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 5, 2023 12:42:00 GMT -5
So - loaded up in the first with only one out. What could go wrong here?
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Post by cdj on Apr 5, 2023 12:42:22 GMT -5
Ngl I don’t like the Cold Weather Kluber experience so far!
Why did he decide to walk guys for the first time in his career?
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Post by cdj on Apr 5, 2023 12:44:36 GMT -5
mission accomplished
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 5, 2023 12:44:38 GMT -5
Whew. close call, but no runs.
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Post by manfred on Apr 5, 2023 12:45:13 GMT -5
Pirates squander. Kluber seems like he is going to be a high-wire act all season. Guy really has to nibble.
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Post by cdj on Apr 5, 2023 12:48:06 GMT -5
Cherington is a good GM. He was here and he’s even better in Pitt now that he has no money to spend on bad FA’s Verdugo Devers Turner Yoshida Casas Arroyo Tapia Chang Wong His drafts were so brutal though, I don’t think there’s been a 5 year stretch with as little pitching production as his tenure. Best pick was Kopech who DD flipped thank god Yeah just went back and looked at his draft record, I was attributing some stuff to the wrong guy. Hand up that’s on me! Still helped with the foundation for 2018. Ppl can say he lucked out in 2013 but he went out and acquired a lot of those guys who were key cogs on that team. Still like what he’s doing in Pitt
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 5, 2023 12:53:09 GMT -5
Think Yoshida is not used to hard stuff dropping vertically so much
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Post by nomar on Apr 5, 2023 12:54:45 GMT -5
Pirates squander. Kluber seems like he is going to be a high-wire act all season. Guy really has to nibble. Darwinzon’s command with Seabold’s stuff. Extend this man.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 5, 2023 13:03:23 GMT -5
Kluber looks… finished. His stuff is seriously unimpressive. If he's suddenly lost his control then he's totally unplayable. But does that just happen with guys who have been control artists their entire career? I assume it'll come back, and he'll hopefully be the same guy he was last year when he had a 3.57 FIP last season with an 89mph heater - and 1.15 BB/9. In a worse-case (maybe not worst-case) scenario he's at least Rich Hill.
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Post by manfred on Apr 5, 2023 13:06:25 GMT -5
Kluber looks… finished. His stuff is seriously unimpressive. If he's suddenly lost his control then he's totally unplayable. But does that just happen with guys who have been control artists their entire career? I assume it'll come back, and he'll hopefully be the same guy he was last year when he had a 3.57 FIP last season with an 89mph heater - and 1.15 BB/9. In a worse-case (maybe not worst-case) scenario he's at least Rich Hill. Maybe. I am not giving up, but his stuff looks so average. I am not sure he has so much lost his command as he just has to nibble so much because he’s kind of junkballing. I imagine a season mix of getting bombed and strong days… if he’s on, he’ll get it done. Off? Bombed. Not a lot in between.
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Post by cdj on Apr 5, 2023 13:07:32 GMT -5
Good quality AB from Tapia. Make them throw
Dammit Yu, can’t give away strikes with a duck on the pond
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Post by taiwansox on Apr 5, 2023 13:26:48 GMT -5
340ft HR pain
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 5, 2023 13:29:16 GMT -5
His drafts were so brutal though, I don’t think there’s been a 5 year stretch with as little pitching production as his tenure. Best pick was Kopech who DD flipped thank god Yeah just went back and looked at his draft record, I was attributing some stuff to the wrong guy. Hand up that’s on me! Still helped with the foundation for 2018. Ppl can say he lucked out in 2013 but he went out and acquired a lot of those guys who were key cogs on that team. Still like what he’s doing in Pitt Agree with 2013 acquisitions. They mostly all worked out 2013: Napoli, Victorino, Drew, Saltalamacchia, Gomes, Carp, Ross, Dempster, Uehara, and Peavy. The problem was many of these were two and three year contracts that ended up with many of the above hurt or unproductive in 2014 and 2015. Cherington’s “value” plays were great in 2013, but caused last place finishes in 2014 and 2015. His FAs and trades of Hanley, Sandoval, Allen Craig, Rusney…. were money drains.
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Post by cdj on Apr 5, 2023 13:33:23 GMT -5
Gonna need a lot more from the bats, they’ve disappeared for 20 innings now
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 5, 2023 13:34:42 GMT -5
Gonna need a lot more from the bats, they’ve disappeared for 20 innings now This was my biggest concern once the team was set entering spring training.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 5, 2023 13:37:37 GMT -5
Kluber 5 innings 3 hits 1 earned run 67 pitches I would take that every time he pitches.
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