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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Apr 4, 2023 7:11:27 GMT -5
This rotation needs to be launched into the sun. Jesus. 7 runs to these jokers.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 4, 2023 7:15:39 GMT -5
Maybe the 4 good seats and a team signed bat. Minimum cost to the team and I imagine a team signed bat would be valued the same with potential future growth if anyone made the HoF. I'm asking for a Ted Williams signed baseball or bat if they have it. If they're looking for value without getting actual money for it, that'd be it. I'd also ask for a Pedro ball, but that's a lot easier to get (since he's alive). Pedro ball is actually a good ask since he also works with the team as well.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Apr 4, 2023 7:44:12 GMT -5
This rotation needs to be launched into the sun. Jesus. 7 runs to these jokers. I agree that the starting pitching has been the absolute weak point of the four games played but I also think the pop up Devers missed was legitimately a game changing play yesterday.
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Post by jmei on Apr 4, 2023 8:08:14 GMT -5
Their defense is sneaky bad. Of their current position players (bench included), does anyone other than the catchers project to be solidly above-average for their position? Kiké in CF and Verdugo in LF maybe, but those aren't their regular starting spots. Maybe Arroyo and Casas as well. But at best, it's a lot of question marks, and at worst, it's a bunch of butchers playing out of position.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 4, 2023 8:16:13 GMT -5
Their defense is sneaky bad. Of their current position players (bench included), does anyone other than the catchers project to be solidly above-average for their position? Kiké in CF and Verdugo in LF maybe, but those aren't their regular starting spots. Maybe Arroyo and Casas as well. But at best, it's a lot of question marks, and at worst, it's a bunch of butchers playing out of position. Currently yes the defensive alignment is pretty ugly, hence why I never wanted Hernandez slotted in as the regular starter at SS. Part of that was due to the late in offseason Story surgery though. Now with Mondesi on the 60 day IL, there goes your two best defensive MIs for a large chunk of the season. So far the Duvall signing has alleviated some of their up the middle issues but how long do we think his hot streak will last? They're really weak up the middle right now and hopefully they can hover around .500 until they can get Mondesi and Story back and get better defensively. The problem when they come back is what to do with the OF? Yoshi takes LF most the time, Verdugo in RF and if somehow Duvall is continuing anywhere near what he's shown then he's going to play a lot. So does Hernandez go to a super utility position at that point?
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Post by bluechip on Apr 4, 2023 8:45:10 GMT -5
Their defense is sneaky bad. Of their current position players (bench included), does anyone other than the catchers project to be solidly above-average for their position? KikÃÂÃÂÃÂé in CF and Verdugo in LF maybe, but those aren't their regular starting spots. Maybe Arroyo and Casas as well. But at best, it's a lot of question marks, and at worst, it's a bunch of butchers playing out of position. You are correct. In addition to Kiké in center being good, Adam Duvall in left is probably a good fielder. Neither or likely to play either spot. The Story injury took away a solid defensive middle infielder. If you want Verdugo, Yoshida, Duvall, Casas and Turner in the lineup everyday, there is no real way to fix that outfield defense. I guess when Mondesi and Story are back, Duvall can move to right against lefties and Kiké can play center. Devers subpar defense is going to be in lineup at third for the foreseeable future unless you move him to DH.
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 4, 2023 9:02:35 GMT -5
Historically Duvall has been excellent defensively in CF, at least per OAA. I agree it's fair to question if he can do it over a full season since he hasn't been asked to before and is older. Getting Story and Mondesi back eventually will help though, not just in the infield but Kiké will play more center, Duvall more right. I also think there's still potential for Casas to be above-average at first.
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Post by shagworthy on Apr 4, 2023 9:08:41 GMT -5
The defense isn't the problem, the starters have been atrocious so far. Unless we can put defenders in the stands to catch home runs it really is a moot point. Yoshi hasn't looked out of place in LF, it's not like he looks like Hanley, and I don't think our infield defense is any worse than it has been when X was manning SS. We just need starters who don't give up 5+ runs a game.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 4, 2023 9:35:03 GMT -5
Their defense is sneaky bad. Of their current position players (bench included), does anyone other than the catchers project to be solidly above-average for their position? Kiké in CF and Verdugo in LF maybe, but those aren't their regular starting spots. Maybe Arroyo and Casas as well. But at best, it's a lot of question marks, and at worst, it's a bunch of butchers playing out of position. They're not awful anywhere, at least. And if one or both of Mondesi or Story come back, then they have a potential alignment of Excellent SS, Decent 2B, Kiké in CF, Duvall in RF, and then suddenly they're above average at every position but 3B and LF. Plus their backup plans (Tapia, Chang, Turner at 1B) are a LOT better than last year, when they had guys disastrously out of position (Franchy at 1B, Arroyo in RF).*
It may be bumpy for the first month or two, but if it turns out to be a real problem they should have the resources to solve it.
*Fun fact: last season the Red Sox as a team were -13 OAA; Franchy at 1B and Arroyo in RF alone - in a total of 470 innings - were -11. Add in Arroyo's -2 in 72 innings at 3B and you can account for 100% of their below-average defense last year.
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 4, 2023 10:09:34 GMT -5
Pitch modeling thinks Kutter was good last night and his 4 seem in particular is a great pitch
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Post by patford on Apr 4, 2023 10:11:44 GMT -5
I'll worry about the rotation when Bello and Whitlock are back and as ineffective as Crawford.
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Post by jmei on Apr 4, 2023 10:13:56 GMT -5
Their defense is sneaky bad. Of their current position players (bench included), does anyone other than the catchers project to be solidly above-average for their position? Kiké in CF and Verdugo in LF maybe, but those aren't their regular starting spots. Maybe Arroyo and Casas as well. But at best, it's a lot of question marks, and at worst, it's a bunch of butchers playing out of position. They're not awful anywhere, at least. And if one or both of Mondesi or Story come back, then they have a potential alignment of Excellent SS, Decent 2B, Kiké in CF, Duvall in RF, and then suddenly they're above average at every position but 3B and LF. Plus their backup plans (Tapia, Chang, Turner at 1B) are a LOT better than last year, when they had guys disastrously out of position (Franchy at 1B, Arroyo in RF).*
It may be bumpy for the first month or two, but if it turns out to be a real problem they should have the resources to solve it.
*Fun fact: last season the Red Sox as a team were -13 OAA; Franchy at 1B and Arroyo in RF alone - in a total of 470 innings - were -11. Add in Arroyo's -2 in 72 innings at 3B and you can account for 100% of their below-average defense last year.
Eh, I think there's more defensive downside risk than you're suggesting. Each of Devers and Verdugo has had a -5 OAA or worse season in the last three years. Folks were penciling in Yoshida as a DH because of his defensive scouting reports in Japan. Hernandez is playing SS full-time for the first time in his career at age 31. Duvall is playing CF full-time for the first time in his career at age 34. The line between "below average" and "awful" is pretty thin and any of those guys could have a flukily bad defensive season.
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Post by manfred on Apr 4, 2023 10:48:56 GMT -5
Pitch modeling thinks Kutter was good last night and his 4 seem in particular is a great pitch Reality: Kutter got lit up. Pitch modeling: Inconceivable! Reality: I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Apr 4, 2023 12:02:57 GMT -5
Crawford was bad last night and wasn't pitching the same as he did in spring training. all his pitches that were bombed leaked to the middle of the plate. He was spotting his fastball well in the spring, but last night his pitches were too middle middle. sloppy sliders and the cutter was a little flat. I am not too concerend with one outing, but the whole pitching staff has caught the first time through bug.
His last outing in the spring was not very good I remember though.
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Post by huskies15 on Apr 4, 2023 12:10:24 GMT -5
Re: the defense--I've actually though Devers has looked pretty good to start. Not sure what happened on that 1st inning pop-up but seems like he's playing the grounders very well and looks smooth.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Apr 4, 2023 12:26:30 GMT -5
This rotation needs to be launched into the sun. Jesus. 7 runs to these jokers. I agree that the starting pitching has been the absolute weak point of the four games played but I also think the pop up Devers missed was legitimately a game changing play yesterday. Yeah that was pretty awful. No excuse to miss that. But Bryan Reynolds was having his way with the staff. There is no reason that you let up a ****ing moon shot to Jason Delay, a guy who has 13 homers in his entire minor league career.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Apr 4, 2023 12:28:21 GMT -5
Pitch modeling thinks Kutter was good last night and his 4 seem in particular is a great pitch The Pirates agree with you. Lots of great pitches for them.
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Post by backwardsk on Apr 4, 2023 12:35:17 GMT -5
Re: the defense--I've actually though Devers has looked pretty good to start. Not sure what happened on that 1st inning pop-up but seems like he's playing the grounders very well and looks smooth. Casas has been helping Devers with that. I can think of at least 3 throws that he's saved Devers with throws to first base in the dirt.
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Post by notstarboard on Apr 4, 2023 12:44:22 GMT -5
Re: the defense--I've actually though Devers has looked pretty good to start. Not sure what happened on that 1st inning pop-up but seems like he's playing the grounders very well and looks smooth. Unfortunately there's a lot more to defense than fielding grounders; that part he's always been pretty good at. The issues are usually throws and mental errors.
He had three blunders in the first game alone. He cut a ball that would have hosed a runner at the plate, he wasn't in position to receive a throw from Kiké that would have cut down the lead runner at third (was ruled an error on Kiké because he threw the ball, but he threw it right over the base and Devers just wasn't ready), and there was one other one I can't think of at the moment. If he made either of the first two plays we might have won the game.
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Post by brendan98 on Apr 4, 2023 14:17:05 GMT -5
Crawford was bad last night and wasn't pitching the same as he did in spring training. all his pitches that were bombed leaked to the middle of the plate. He was spotting his fastball well in the spring, but last night his pitches were too middle middle. sloppy sliders and the cutter was a little flat. I am not too concerend with one outing, but the whole pitching staff has caught the first time through bug. His last outing in the spring was not very good I remember though.
Exactly, he was missing his spot by a lot on a lot of his pitches, command was almost non existent.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 4, 2023 15:17:36 GMT -5
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Post by manfred on Apr 4, 2023 15:46:23 GMT -5
My price for the ball? A different ball. I caught it, which would be exciting. Then I’d take it home and lose it. So what is it worth to me? Why be a greedy pig?
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Post by yuchangclan on Apr 4, 2023 15:47:05 GMT -5
Still no rainouts across MLB. Is this some kind of record? I figure this is the only place on the Internet where I could ask this question and get an answer.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 4, 2023 16:00:54 GMT -5
That's crappy. It's not an historic ball. Would be curious on the ask and offer before judging either party.
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Post by shagworthy on Apr 4, 2023 16:01:58 GMT -5
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