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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 5, 2023 10:20:39 GMT -5
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Apr 5, 2023 10:31:44 GMT -5
3 of the teams in the lowest class will still be the favorites to sign like 4 of the top 7 guys somehow
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 5, 2023 10:37:47 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 5, 2023 10:40:26 GMT -5
3 of the teams in the lowest class will still be the favorites to sign like 4 of the top 7 guys somehow I mean, the somehow is clearly a quantity versus, for lack of a better word, "quality" approach, right? Do you want to give almost all of your pool to one guy you think will be a superstar or spread it around knowing you're pretty good at finding hidden gems? |
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Apr 5, 2023 10:44:49 GMT -5
3 of the teams in the lowest class will still be the favorites to sign like 4 of the top 7 guys somehow I mean, the somehow is clearly a quantity versus, for lack of a better word, "quality" approach, right? Do you want to give almost all of your pool to one guy you think will be a superstar or spread it around knowing you're pretty good at finding hidden gems? Oh I'm cool with the way Boston has done it lately, I just don't know how they all fit into the budgets when you see projected bonus and what these teams have to offer |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 5, 2023 11:13:01 GMT -5
Yeah for sure, not debating anything. I think they're just OK with 90% of their pool going to one guy. If you end up with a guy like Salas in SD who skips right to the US and looks like a stud already, per Keith Law, then there's an argument it's worth it. Do you want a potential superstar who the success of your entire class turns on? Maybe yes, but if you're confident you can find Peraleses (Perali?) at 75k...maybe you shouldn't.
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Post by stevedillard on Apr 5, 2023 11:54:01 GMT -5
I’d just be happy if the Sox use all of their money this year on they guys they planned to offer.
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Post by badfishnbc on Apr 5, 2023 12:21:44 GMT -5
I guess it’s a question of the impact Jasson Domínguez makes (whole-budget signing) versus the collective impact of our 19-20 class.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 5, 2023 12:44:31 GMT -5
These arguments are played out every year. Just sign good players their bonus don’t really matter once they are in the system.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 20, 2023 8:28:30 GMT -5
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Apr 20, 2023 8:54:03 GMT -5
By top guys, I'm presuming that means top 10? If so, not overly surprising since they tend to take more bites of the apple |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 20, 2023 8:57:30 GMT -5
By top guys, I'm presuming that means top 10? If so, not overly surprising since they tend to take more bites of the apple Yup - just not the 10 guys that stand out, as Badler puts it. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Sept 28, 2023 20:23:43 GMT -5
Jesse Sanchez has his list of top 50 IFAs for the 2024 signing period. He doesn't hint who they will be signing with, but I believe Vladimir Asencio, OF, DR at #33 is slated to sign with the Red Sox. www.mlb.com/prospects/2024/international/ |
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Post by ixnayexxus on Sept 28, 2023 22:16:15 GMT -5
I'm all for signing a plethora of taller, lankier pitchers, who project to gain velocity once they fill out their frames; let's cultivate the next Clase, Doval, or even Felix Bautista
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Post by cdj on Sept 28, 2023 22:59:55 GMT -5
Give 25k-50k to as many lanky 17 YO that throw mid to high 80s as possible
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Post by rickasadoorian on Sept 30, 2023 11:06:48 GMT -5
Yeah for sure, not debating anything. I think they're just OK with 90% of their pool going to one guy. If you end up with a guy like Salas in SD who skips right to the US and looks like a stud already, per Keith Law, then there's an argument it's worth it. Do you want a potential superstar who the success of your entire class turns on? Maybe yes, but if you're confident you can find Peraleses (Perali?) at 75k...maybe you shouldn't. Late to the party, but what's to stop a team from doing both? You can sign as many guys to 75k as you want, can't you? I thought it was guys who signed 300k or more counted against the pool? With that said, I like the spread the wealth around approach. I also like how they don't spend big on pitchers. They seem to do well finding Perali. And not so well with the Groome's and Espinoza's. There was an old saying that throwing 95-98 at 18 meant throwing 88-90 at age 23. Seems the Sox approach is loading up on 16-18 year old pitchers in the hopes a few of them add velocity. That's how I'd approach it too. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Sept 30, 2023 12:38:42 GMT -5
To clarify, anything over 10k counts against the bonus pool. It used to be 300k, but that was changed a few years ago.
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Post by ixnayexxus on Oct 3, 2023 12:39:23 GMT -5
I don't know where else to put this, but this is an interesting development; I don't recall anything like this ever happening. He was projected to go #1 overall in the NPB draft and has been compared to Munetaka Murakami
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 3, 2023 13:45:38 GMT -5
Are there special rules for Japanese amateurs? That account has other posts saying he's an unusually good #1 high school prospect. I would think based on that he could get some team's entire international bonus pool, which would make going to college an odd choice.
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Post by ixnayexxus on Oct 3, 2023 13:55:13 GMT -5
Are there special rules for Japanese amateurs? That account has other posts saying he's an unusually good #1 high school prospect. I would think based on that he could get some team's entire international bonus pool, which would make going to college an odd choice. I wish I could tell you, I have no precedent for something like this. |
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Oct 3, 2023 14:06:02 GMT -5
Are there special rules for Japanese amateurs? That account has other posts saying he's an unusually good #1 high school prospect. I would think based on that he could get some team's entire international bonus pool, which would make going to college an odd choice. I wish I could tell you, I have no precedent for something like this. Tazawa kind of? But it's not apples to apples. |
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 10, 2023 15:52:44 GMT -5
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Oct 11, 2023 1:19:15 GMT -5
Could also play fullback in the fall... |
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Post by badfishnbc on Oct 11, 2023 9:26:15 GMT -5
This is hella fascinating - two years in an American program is bound to lessen the language barrier some Japanese players face when coming to the U.S. And it's going to be interesting to see how teams navigate drafting these guys, since they have a unique bit of leverage of returning home to Japan and getting posted at a later time. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 11, 2023 9:34:08 GMT -5
This is hella fascinating - two years in an American program is bound to lessen the language barrier some Japanese players face when coming to the U.S. And it's going to be interesting to see how teams navigate drafting these guys, since they have a unique bit of leverage of returning home to Japan and getting posted at a later time. I'm not sure he does. Foregoing NPB at least used to be a "don't let the door hit you on the way out" situation. At least it was with Tazawa. |
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