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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on May 9, 2023 11:54:10 GMT -5
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on May 9, 2023 11:57:32 GMT -5
VINDICATION!!
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on May 9, 2023 11:58:28 GMT -5
I wonder what happens with Lugo and Koss. Need to create playing time somewhere
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Post by radiohix on May 9, 2023 12:01:56 GMT -5
I wonder what happens with Lugo and Koss. Need to create playing time somewhere Koss is already playing some OF.
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Post by julyanmorley on May 9, 2023 12:05:22 GMT -5
I wonder what happens with Lugo and Koss. Need to create playing time somewhere I don't see much playing time left for Alex Binelas, maybe he even gets demoted
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Post by Addam603 on May 9, 2023 12:19:13 GMT -5
Hickey is going to take some time from Scott, which is a shame because Scott has been hitting well this year. Hickey is the clear better prospect though.
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Post by scottysmalls on May 9, 2023 12:22:03 GMT -5
Thoughts on a Yorke promotion in June?
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on May 9, 2023 12:32:07 GMT -5
Hickey is going to take some time from Scott, which is a shame because Scott has been hitting well this year. Hickey is the clear better prospect though. Alfaro has some kind of exit after 6/1 in his contract, right? Wouldn't surprise me if, between that (if I'm right) and Hamilton/Hernandez not exactly high level prospects in their own right, they made space for Scott in Worcester at some point.
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Post by julyanmorley on May 9, 2023 12:35:28 GMT -5
Hickey is going to take some time from Scott, which is a shame because Scott has been hitting well this year. Hickey is the clear better prospect though. Scott has 329 PA at AA now with a solid .245/.371/.402 line. He's rule 5 eligible in the offseason, I'd like to see him get a lot of run in AAA to try and earn a spot as next year's third catcher.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on May 9, 2023 12:42:44 GMT -5
Looking at Salem's roster trying to see if there would be any interesting promotions to backfill the spots left by Meidroth and Hickey, but seems unlikely with the youth of that middle infield and Max Ferguson's ability to play second. I guess the one thing I'm interested to see is if Mejicano moves up to Greenville, could we get a full season debut for Brooks Brannon?
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on May 9, 2023 12:45:45 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 9, 2023 12:47:47 GMT -5
Thoughts on a Yorke promotion in June? Doubt he would get promoted that soon. Probably more like early August if all goes well.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 9, 2023 12:49:15 GMT -5
So Edwin Diaz to Worcester and Matt Donlan to the dev list are the countermoves. Also, Ryan Zeferjahn is activated by Portland and Skyler Arias to the dev list.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 9, 2023 12:52:49 GMT -5
Looks like Ronald Rosario is getting promoted to Greenville.
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Post by scottysmalls on May 9, 2023 12:53:55 GMT -5
Thoughts on a Yorke promotion in June? Doubt he would get promoted that soon. Probably more like early August if all goes well. I believe this, but interesting how the conversation differs so much between he and Mayer. Yorke's arguably having a more impressive offensive season (though maybe the batted ball metrics say otherwise) and the jump from AA to AAA (at least in my recollection) is smaller than the one from A+ to AA. Yet people are clamoring to move Mayer up and there's no talk about Yorke. Though I know Mayer had some A+ run last year too and this is Yorke's first time at the AA level. ADD: And to be clear I'm not advocating for moving either of them up or arguing even that they should be promoted at the same time.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 9, 2023 12:59:55 GMT -5
Looks like Ronald Rosario is getting promoted to Greenville. And Enderso Lira promoted from extended spring training.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on May 9, 2023 13:02:16 GMT -5
Doubt he would get promoted that soon. Probably more like early August if all goes well. I believe this, but interesting how the conversation differs so much between he and Mayer. Yorke's arguably having a more impressive offensive season (though maybe the batted ball metrics say otherwise) and the jump from AA to AAA (at least in my recollection) is smaller than the one from A+ to AA. Yet people are clamoring to move Mayer up and there's no talk about Yorke. Though I know Mayer had some A+ run last year too and this is Yorke's first time at the AA level. ADD: And to be clear I'm not advocating for moving either of them up or arguing even that they should be promoted at the same time. I think one of the main reasons that people are having the conversations about Mayer and not about Yorke is moreso the level, not the player. As Chris and Ian have noted multiple times on the podcasts and on the forums, A/A+ are a little weaker with the removal of short-season ball. Therefore, suggesting that Mayer get promoted to AA from A+ is an implication that he's ready for "the leap" in terms of challenge level, whereas Yorke is probably going to be best challenged by continuing to grow in one role for a season and allowing much more advanced pitchers to become acclimated to him and adjust in order to best try to get him out, forcing Yorke to make adjustments of his own and therefore develop. I also think there's a relatively small gap between AA and being a major league player that there's just less of a need to promote Yorke to AAA to fully realize him as a potential MLB contributor. If Yorke rakes all year in Portland, comes out and hits super well for the first two months in Worcester, and forces his way up to the bigs (a certainly optimistic timeline, but within the realm of possibilities), it's not going to be all that different from if he got a mid-season promotion to Worcester, pretty much regardless of how he hits there, because I don't think there's any situation in which he's genuinely competing for a big league spot out of camp next year. Where as, again, Mayer getting that push up to AA and him possibly proving himself there could fundamentally alter his debut timeline. I certainly don't think anyone is trying to discredit what Yorke is done (nor do I think that's the accusation you're making here), just different contexts IMO.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on May 9, 2023 13:04:06 GMT -5
Looks like Ronald Rosario is getting promoted to Greenville. And Enderso Lira promoted from extended spring training. Not as exciting on the Lira side, though likely just a placeholder until one of Brannon/Salazar are ready. That being said, if Rosario sticks in Greenville that's a pretty aggressive assignment for a guy that's generated a little bit of buzz early in this year.
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Post by julyanmorley on May 9, 2023 13:06:38 GMT -5
Ronald Rosario has had a very strange 43 game career
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Post by Addam603 on May 9, 2023 13:07:17 GMT -5
The Rosario promotion is really interesting. Is he a GUY that they’re promoting because he can handle the level and they consider him a legit catching prospect? Or is he just a body you’re throwing up there because he can catch a couple times a week without much issue?
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Post by julyanmorley on May 9, 2023 13:19:26 GMT -5
The Rosario promotion is really interesting. Is he a GUY that they’re promoting because he can handle the level and they consider him a legit catching prospect? Or is he just a body you’re throwing up there because he can catch a couple times a week without much issue? Mejicano hasn't caught a game this month so maybe he is dinged up and not an option, which would leave Rosario as the only reasonablish choice.
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Post by James Dunne on May 9, 2023 13:34:47 GMT -5
And Enderso Lira promoted from extended spring training. Not as exciting on the Lira side, though likely just a placeholder until one of Brannon/Salazar are ready. Disagree strongly. Lira is outstanding defensively. Decent ability to make contact but he has struggled to hit with any authority whatsoever.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on May 9, 2023 13:48:58 GMT -5
Not as exciting on the Lira side, though likely just a placeholder until one of Brannon/Salazar are ready. Disagree strongly. Lira is outstanding defensively. Decent ability to make contact but he has struggled to hit with any authority whatsoever. I mean, if you find that exciting, that is certainly your right. I think it is pretty clearly less exciting than the other two options. I'm not going to put him in a box so early in his career, but what you describe (and I'm going to take your word for it on the contact side because striking out 28% in the FCL isn't exactly lighting it up - he was obviously super young but he's going to be super young for Salem so I'd be pretty shocked if it were any better) sounds pretty similar to guys in the Elih Marrero/Jonathan Diaz mold, who are fine guys to have around, but aren't necessarily "prospects", though calling them roster filler is likely too harsh. Add: maybe you were moreso disagreeing with the placeholder thing (which we can agree to disagree, it's fine), but at the end of the day I don't think it's a particularly hot take to be more excited by the potential promotion over ranked guys than a guy who is unranked, as simplistic as that may be.
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Post by julyanmorley on May 15, 2023 9:27:45 GMT -5
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on May 15, 2023 10:48:40 GMT -5
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