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Post by taiwansox on May 13, 2023 17:33:23 GMT -5
Why McGuire instead of Valdez here? Pinch running is not worth it smh
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Post by julyanmorley on May 13, 2023 17:33:27 GMT -5
Why McGuire instead of Valdez here? Important to show confidence in the vet here
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Post by jmei on May 13, 2023 17:33:32 GMT -5
If I were divvying up responsibility, I would give it 60% Cora (needed to take Jansen out earlier and not issue the intentional walk), 30% Jansen (he is clearly not right but that doesnât get him off the hook entirely and 10% Kiké (just overconfidence from him). But Kiké isnât blameless.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 13, 2023 17:33:48 GMT -5
I'd have PH Valdez instead of McGuire because he's more likely to go deep.
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Post by cheers on May 13, 2023 17:34:47 GMT -5
Why McGuire instead of Valdez here? Valdez is the PR at 1st
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Post by kevfc89 on May 13, 2023 17:35:05 GMT -5
At least Valdez could give you hope to launch one, disgusting loss
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Post by taiwansox on May 13, 2023 17:35:26 GMT -5
I'd have PH Valdez instead of McGuire because he's more likely to go deep. Yeah so dumb, Valdez is the better hitter, McGuire has way outperformed his peripherals Last place
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Post by taiwansox on May 13, 2023 17:35:57 GMT -5
Why McGuire instead of Valdez here? Valdez is the PR at 1st Yeah exactly, so dumb when Valdez is the better hitter and you’re down to your last out
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Post by semperfisox on May 13, 2023 17:36:02 GMT -5
Back to back great starts wasted. Puke…
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Post by briam on May 13, 2023 17:36:29 GMT -5
Why in the world do you throw Kenley out there after a meltdown last night with diminished stuff, especially with Martin well rested? Just stupid.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 13, 2023 17:36:53 GMT -5
Crappy unnecessary loss. Terrible.
They finally get strong starting pitching and nice there closer goes kablooey. Why cant they get the starting pitching and relief pitching in sync?
I want to believe in this team. They can make it so damn difficult.
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Post by briam on May 13, 2023 17:37:27 GMT -5
They got 14 innings and only 3 earned from Paxton and Sale and lost both games because the bullpen imploded. Feels like it’s 2022 again.
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Post by radiohix on May 13, 2023 17:39:25 GMT -5
No worries folks, tomorrow we’ll get the crappy starting pitching in the corpse of Corey Kluber. FML
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Post by jmei on May 13, 2023 17:39:47 GMT -5
This has been the most infuriating two games we’ve had this season. (So far.)
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 13, 2023 17:40:24 GMT -5
No worries folks, tomorrow we’ll get the crappy starting pitching in the corpse of Corey Kluber. FML They're getting swept this weekend. They kind of deserve it. Sale and Paxton certainly dont, though. I'm jus pissed right now. I felt it coming. Martin should have gotten the 9th. I cant help but wonder if Jansen is gassed a bit.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 13, 2023 17:40:53 GMT -5
For me, I was shocked it was Jansen, otherwise, what everyone else said.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 13, 2023 17:42:54 GMT -5
what is this story about Jansen's fragile emotional state ? Sure to be in the minority here, but am i reading that people want Martin closing because of his performance last night ? Sorry, not down with that. If we are gonna get to where we want, we need Jensen to be where he was, and you gotta let him get back on the horse. If it is injury, then he needs to come clean.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 13, 2023 17:43:27 GMT -5
Will Middlebrooks is wondering about the same Jansen stuff that I'm wondering about.
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Post by julyanmorley on May 13, 2023 17:44:01 GMT -5
Can't shake the feeling that Cora is comfortable shedding fractions of a win all over the place to try and generate player loyalty for himself. Feels like a principle-agent problem.
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Post by congusgambler33 on May 13, 2023 17:44:44 GMT -5
Hitting into 5 DP's didn't help either. Chris Sale pitches his ass off and is rewarded with this BS!!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 13, 2023 17:45:36 GMT -5
No worries folks, tomorrow we’ll get the crappy starting pitching in the corpse of Corey Kluber. FML They're getting swept this weekend. They kind of deserve it. Sale and Paxton certainly dont, though. I'm jus pissed right now. I felt it coming. Martin should have gotten the 9th. I cant help but wonder if Jansen is gassed a bit. i really don't get this. how can a person reasonably come the conclusion that a change should be made because of 1 really bad outing. Here, he had a 2 run lead, it was right to call to go to Kenley.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 13, 2023 17:45:59 GMT -5
what is this story about Jansen's fragile emotional state ? Sure to be in the minority here, but am i reading that people want Martin closing because of his performance last night ? Sorry, not down with that. If we are gonna get to where we want, we need Jensen to be where he was, and you gotta let him get back on the horse. If it is injury, then he needs to come clean. Jerry, I wanted Martin because Jansen didnt look right last night. His control is normally not that bad and his velocity was down and he threw 22 pitches last night. By time the 3rd batter was done I really wanted Martin at that point. They need to figure out what's up with Jansen. He has looked different the past couple of days. I'm not saying remove Kenley as closer but that doesnt mean you cant remove him when he doesnt look right.
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Post by fenwaydouble on May 13, 2023 17:46:11 GMT -5
what is this story about Jansen's fragile emotional state ? Sure to be in the minority here, but am i reading that people want Martin closing because of his performance last night ? Sorry, not down with that. If we are gonna get to where we want, we need Jensen to be where he was, and you gotta let him get back on the horse. If it is injury, then he needs to come clean. Nobody wants Kenley demoted, but you don’t need to roll him out again less than 24 hours after his worst (and longest) outing of the year. Edit: Anyone else remember when Cora tried multiple times to sabotage the 2018 postseason run by continuing to trod out the corpse of Craig Kimbrel? I was getting war flashbacks today.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 13, 2023 17:49:06 GMT -5
what is this story about Jansen's fragile emotional state ? Sure to be in the minority here, but am i reading that people want Martin closing because of his performance last night ? Sorry, not down with that. If we are gonna get to where we want, we need Jensen to be where he was, and you gotta let him get back on the horse. If it is injury, then he needs to come clean. Nobody wants Kenley demoted, but you don’t need to roll him out again less than 24 hours after his worst (and longest) outing of the year. i can respect that, but there have countless time in sports, in general, where it is has proven to be the most important time to get a guy back out there.
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Post by briam on May 13, 2023 17:53:40 GMT -5
I’m a fan of the clock but the fact there’s all these rules surrounding it now and clocks within the clock I’m starting to get over it. The “quick pitch” rule is just dumb. If the hitter isn’t ready in the box that’s on him. How is a pitcher coming set from the stretch any different than a guy being on the rubber from the windup? This just makes no sense to me unless he starts his delivery before the batter is set.
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