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Post by bellhorndingers21 on May 24, 2024 20:26:00 GMT -5
Keith Law on Twitter yesterday said he heard it was from a dry needling treatment (basically acupuncture) gone wrong. Uhh I'm not acupuncturist but it would seem for it to lead to a punctured long someone must have really F'ed up.. My thoughts exactly. I've worked with PTs who are certified in dry needling and have sat through a couple of work seminars about the topic at our hospital. You really need to be overzealous to cause a pneumothorax. |
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Post by dirtdog on May 24, 2024 20:32:17 GMT -5
Uhh I'm not acupuncturist but it would seem for it to lead to a punctured long someone must have really F'ed up.. My thoughts exactly. I've worked with PTs who are certified in dry needling and have sat through a couple of work seminars about the topic at our hospital. You really need to be overzealous to cause a pneumothorax. I actually remember the team doctor on the Chargers doing that to the QB when he was giving a pain shot to his rib cartledge a few years back. But from what I have seen, acupuncture needles go in shallow? |
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Post by bellhorndingers21 on May 24, 2024 20:46:22 GMT -5
My thoughts exactly. I've worked with PTs who are certified in dry needling and have sat through a couple of work seminars about the topic at our hospital. You really need to be overzealous to cause a pneumothorax. I actually remember the team doctor on the Chargers doing that to the QB when he was giving a pain shot to his rib cartledge a few years back. But from what I have seen, acupuncture needles go in shallow? Depends on the tissue your working on. A larger muscle bulk like your upper trapezius is safer to work with and is usually an area therapists will learn on first as you'll avoid mishaps. My guess was they were working on a smaller rotator cuff muscle like the subscapularis or infraspinatus and just overshot. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 28, 2024 8:53:56 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on May 28, 2024 8:58:27 GMT -5
Well that would be sick
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Post by nomar on May 28, 2024 9:08:15 GMT -5
We’ve read conflicting things about the Red Sox looking at pitching and college bats over the last week.
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Post by 0ap0 on May 28, 2024 9:43:18 GMT -5
If the common wisdom is that there's a strong top-11, I really like our chances of getting one of them at 12. I'm looking forward to this one.
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Post by ixnayexxus on May 28, 2024 11:15:08 GMT -5
I'm all for drafting the best player available regardless of position, but I'm still hoping that the BPA just happens to be a college pitcher
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Post by soxin8 on May 28, 2024 11:35:11 GMT -5
We’ve read conflicting things about the Red Sox looking at pitching and college bats over the last week. Here's hoping Joe Doyle has better sources this time. Smith seems like a too good to be true pick here, but so was Marcelo. Would be a great celebration on this board I believe if it somehow happened. |
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Post by julyanmorley on May 28, 2024 12:33:30 GMT -5
We’ve read conflicting things about the Red Sox looking at pitching and college bats over the last week. I'm not convinced that anybody knows anything. Nobody even mentions the extreme bias they have towards drafting HS players that are young for their class |
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 28, 2024 12:45:08 GMT -5
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Post by soxin8 on May 28, 2024 12:56:19 GMT -5
We’ve read conflicting things about the Red Sox looking at pitching and college bats over the last week. I'm not convinced that anybody knows anything. Nobody even mentions the extreme bias they have towards drafting HS players that are young for their class Jim Callis had a moment back in 2005 correctly predicting the first 18 picks. It might never happen again but it is possible to get some idea of what players mlb teams are most interested in. grantland.com/the-triangle/mlb-draft-jim-callis-q-and-a/www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2005-final-mlb-draft-projection/www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/2005_Amateur_DraftHe also correctly predicted the Sox taking Ellsbury and Hansen at 23 and 26 as well as their interest in HS catcher Egan predicting him as a supplemental 1st instead of the second round where he went. Pretty remarkable mock from Jim that year. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 29, 2024 7:09:51 GMT -5
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Post by jdb on May 29, 2024 13:06:45 GMT -5
Seems that most of the good draft writers are all over the place with us. Interesting that Kiley had a few new names and drafted at 12 could give us a few more bites at the apple so to say. With it looking like a pretty good top 11 is it better to over spend on a top guy or maybe have more money in R2-4?
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Post by julyanmorley on May 29, 2024 13:12:13 GMT -5
Griffin is young for his class
Not sure I can manage another round of Keith Law telling us that nobody has made it out of Mississippi high schools though
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Post by soxin8 on May 29, 2024 13:53:21 GMT -5
If the Sox do wind up taking a bat in the first round, I think that will increase the interest in looking at college pitching shortly after that. While I was enjoying the Sox knocking Grayson Rodriguez around last night, I decided to look at Law's and Joe Doyle's top prospects list for arms. Keith had 13 college pitchers in his top 100 and Joe had 16. I thought I would try to put that together here for possible second and third round picks. Mike always has a great draft preview here. Maybe this will help start the process.
I'll write the player followed be giving Law's and Doyle's (future stars series) rankings.
I am adding the mlb.com rankings that vermont was kind enough to give.
Payton Tolle TCU 44 41 86
Jonathan Santucci Duke 46 34 34
Ben Hess AL 54 58 45
Luke Holman LSU 60 49 48
Gage Jump LSU 61 106 60
Bryce Cunningham Vandy 62 59 44
Josh Hartle Wake 66 92 62
Carter Holton Vandy 74 52 61
Drew Beam TN 76 48 63
Ryan Johnson Dallas B 77 40 43
Sam Stuhr U of Prt 89 199 183
Michael Massey Duke 90 80 107
Matt Ager UCSB 93 164 106
These 6 are only in Joe Doyle's top 100
Jurrangelo Cijntje MSST 44 31 (He was 15 for Keith)
Ryan Prager A+M 69 59
Ryan Forcucci UCSD 71 85
Aiden May ORST 75 82
Gage Ziehl Miami 85 88
Thatcher Hurd LSU 99 112
Only listed in mlb's top 100
Tristan Smith Clemson 68
Tyson Neighbors K ST 78
Kal Stephen MSST 87
Daniel Eagan Presby 89
For the people who watch college, please feel free to comment on this group (I'm looking at you thegoodthebadthesox).
I spaced it better when it was written. Maybe a mod can help make it more readable?
I need to make a correction. The number of players in the top 100 I listed for Keith and Joe excluded those who would likely go in the first round. Keith had 5 more college arms going in the first including Cijntje at 15.
I don't have a BA subscription to add their rankings. If a mod would like to do that I think it would be a nice addition.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on May 29, 2024 16:22:45 GMT -5
If the Sox do wind up taking a bat in the first round, I think that will increase the interest in looking at college pitching shortly after that. While I was enjoying the Sox knocking Grayson Rodriguez around last night, I decided to look at Law's and Joe Doyle's top prospects list for arms. Keith had 13 college pitchers in his top 100 and Joe had 16. I thought I would try to put that together here for possible second and third round picks. Mike always has a great draft preview here. Maybe this will help start the process. I'll write the player followed be giving Law's and Doyle's (future stars series) rankings. Payton Tolle TCU 44 41 Jonathan Santucci Duke 46 34 Ben Hess AL 54 58 Luke Holman LSU 60 49 Gage Jump LSU 61 106 Bryce Cunningham Vandy 62 59 Josh Hartle Wake 66 92 Carter Holton Vandy 74 52 Drew Beam TN 76 48 Ryan Johnson Dallas B 77 40 Sam Stuhr U of Prt 89 199 Michael Massey Duke 90 80 Matt Ager UCSB 93 164 These 6 are only in Joe Doyle's top 100 Jurrangelo Cijntje MSST 44 Ryan Prager A+M 69 Ryan Forcucci UCSD 71 Aiden May ORST 75 Gage Ziehl Miami 85 Thatcher Hurd LSU 99 For the people who watch college, please feel free to comment on this group (I'm looking at you thegoodthebadthesox). I spaced it better when it was written. Maybe a mod can help make it more readable? I need to make a correction. The number of players in the top 100 I listed for Keith and Joe excluded those who would likely go in the first round. Keith had 5 more college arms going in the first including Cijntje at 15. I’ve written a bit about Holton before and I’m a huge Ryan Johnson guy. I took my name out of the NCAA site rep pool this year but I’ll be working the entire College Station regional for ESPN so should get some really good looks at everyone from A&M, Texas, Louisiana, and Grambling. Super excited to get another look at the Texas guys because they are a much more explosive offensive team than they looked to be when I caught them early in the season. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 29, 2024 20:34:33 GMT -5
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Post by 0ap0 on May 30, 2024 8:25:23 GMT -5
I'll write the player followed be giving Law's and Doyle's (future stars series) rankings. ... Thatcher Hurd LSU 99 Thatcher Hurd? I hardly even know 'er! |
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Post by James Dunne on May 30, 2024 8:28:34 GMT -5
Thatcher Hurd definitely was a character in seasons 11 through 15 of some British show that has been running six episodes per year since 1971.
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Post by bentossaurus on May 30, 2024 8:38:45 GMT -5
Thatcher Hurd definitely was a character in seasons 11 through 15 of some British show that has been running six episodes per year since 1971. For a second I was actually going on my head through the shows that met the criteria. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 30, 2024 8:50:16 GMT -5
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Post by 0ap0 on May 30, 2024 10:01:13 GMT -5
Thatcher Hurd definitely was a character in seasons 11 through 15 of some British show that has been running six episodes per year since 1971. For a second I was actually going on my head through the shows that met the criteria. It was "You Must Be Barmy". Thatcher was originally brought in as a 12-year-old hired by the vicar to tend his garden, but "that Hurd boy" eventually became the main love interest of Abelia Oliver who worked under Maid Higgins in the kitchens of the Preller [sic] estate. |
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on May 30, 2024 10:04:41 GMT -5
Lots of Texas and Texas A&M guys on there that I'll be seeing this weekend but as I already have seen multiple games of pretty much every player on that roster (and 30+ games of the A&M guys), I was excited to see Louisiana's SS Kyle DeBarge ranked in the top 100. He has a really fun profile and I'll be interested to see how it plays on this stage. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 30, 2024 19:40:41 GMT -5
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