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Post by RedSoxStats on May 30, 2024 20:01:57 GMT -5
Tibbs feels like he would have been a lock to the Sox in like the early 2000s
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 31, 2024 8:33:04 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on May 31, 2024 8:37:24 GMT -5
Tibbs feels like he would have been a lock to the Sox in like the early 2000s Yeah I went straight to Matt Murton too. |
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Post by nomar on May 31, 2024 8:48:15 GMT -5
Tibbs feels like he would have been a lock to the Sox in like the early 2000s Yeah I went straight to Matt Murton too. Tibbs doesn’t get plus power grades from what I’ve seen but he’s hitting for way more power than Murton did in college. I would love to see more exit velo data on him (I saw that he led the cape league in Avg EV though). I’m hoping for one of the top 11 to fall, but I don’t think Tibbs, King, or even White would be bad consolation prizes. |
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jun 1, 2024 1:12:32 GMT -5
If the Sox do wind up taking a bat in the first round, I think that will increase the interest in looking at college pitching shortly after that. While I was enjoying the Sox knocking Grayson Rodriguez around last night, I decided to look at Law's and Joe Doyle's top prospects list for arms. Keith had 13 college pitchers in his top 100 and Joe had 16. I thought I would try to put that together here for possible second and third round picks. Mike always has a great draft preview here. Maybe this will help start the process. I'll write the player followed be giving Law's and Doyle's (future stars series) rankings. I am adding the mlb.com rankings that vermont was kind enough to give. Payton Tolle TCU 44 41 86 Jonathan Santucci Duke 46 34 34 Ben Hess AL 54 58 45 Luke Holman LSU 60 49 48 Gage Jump LSU 61 106 60 Bryce Cunningham Vandy 62 59 44 Josh Hartle Wake 66 92 62 Carter Holton Vandy 74 52 61 Drew Beam TN 76 48 63 Ryan Johnson Dallas B 77 40 43 Sam Stuhr U of Prt 89 199 183 Michael Massey Duke 90 80 107 Matt Ager UCSB 93 164 106 These 6 are only in Joe Doyle's top 100 Jurrangelo Cijntje MSST 44 31 (He was 15 for Keith) Ryan Prager A+M 69 59 Ryan Forcucci UCSD 71 85 Aiden May ORST 75 82 Gage Ziehl Miami 85 88 Thatcher Hurd LSU 99 112 Only listed in mlb's top 100 Tristan Smith Clemson 68 Tyson Neighbors K ST 78 Kal Stephen MSST 87 Daniel Eagan Presby 89 For the people who watch college, please feel free to comment on this group (I'm looking at you thegoodthebadthesox). I spaced it better when it was written. Maybe a mod can help make it more readable? I need to make a correction. The number of players in the top 100 I listed for Keith and Joe excluded those who would likely go in the first round. Keith had 5 more college arms going in the first including Cijntje at 15. I don't have a BA subscription to add their rankings. If a mod would like to do that I think it would be a nice addition. I've been out of the country for 5 weeks but unless they've taken big steps back, the names that stick out to me here are Holman, Beam, Hartle, Ager, Hess, and Neighbors (RP). Also like prep Doughty, who Kiley mentioned (although what's up with Kiley comping mid-1st round kids to Tatis Jr and Seager?). Wouldn't mind seeing any of those in the 2nd or 3rd round. Should be a fun few days. |
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 1, 2024 7:58:55 GMT -5
If the Sox do wind up taking a bat in the first round, I think that will increase the interest in looking at college pitching shortly after that. While I was enjoying the Sox knocking Grayson Rodriguez around last night, I decided to look at Law's and Joe Doyle's top prospects list for arms. Keith had 13 college pitchers in his top 100 and Joe had 16. I thought I would try to put that together here for possible second and third round picks. Mike always has a great draft preview here. Maybe this will help start the process. I'll write the player followed be giving Law's and Doyle's (future stars series) rankings. I am adding the mlb.com rankings that vermont was kind enough to give. Payton Tolle TCU 44 41 86 Jonathan Santucci Duke 46 34 34 Ben Hess AL 54 58 45 Luke Holman LSU 60 49 48 Gage Jump LSU 61 106 60 Bryce Cunningham Vandy 62 59 44 Josh Hartle Wake 66 92 62 Carter Holton Vandy 74 52 61 Drew Beam TN 76 48 63 Ryan Johnson Dallas B 77 40 43 Sam Stuhr U of Prt 89 199 183 Michael Massey Duke 90 80 107 Matt Ager UCSB 93 164 106 These 6 are only in Joe Doyle's top 100 Jurrangelo Cijntje MSST 44 31 (He was 15 for Keith) Ryan Prager A+M 69 59 Ryan Forcucci UCSD 71 85 Aiden May ORST 75 82 Gage Ziehl Miami 85 88 Thatcher Hurd LSU 99 112 Only listed in mlb's top 100 Tristan Smith Clemson 68 Tyson Neighbors K ST 78 Kal Stephen MSST 87 Daniel Eagan Presby 89 For the people who watch college, please feel free to comment on this group (I'm looking at you thegoodthebadthesox). I spaced it better when it was written. Maybe a mod can help make it more readable? I need to make a correction. The number of players in the top 100 I listed for Keith and Joe excluded those who would likely go in the first round. Keith had 5 more college arms going in the first including Cijntje at 15. I don't have a BA subscription to add their rankings. If a mod would like to do that I think it would be a nice addition. I've been out of the country for 5 weeks but unless they've taken big steps back, the names that stick out to me here are Holman, Beam, Hartle, Ager, Hess, and Neighbors (RP). Also like prep Doughty, who Kiley mentioned (although what's up with Kiley comping mid-1st round kids to Tatis Jr and Seager?). Wouldn't mind seeing any of those in the 2nd or 3rd round. Should be a fun few days. Hartle has regressed way too much with what was already a somewhat low ceiling profile for my taste, so of that list he’s one guy I’m way out on. I haven’t watched him since the Duke game, though. Ager has had a weird season too, but if they win their regional and A&M does as well I’ll see him in person next weekend. |
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Post by ramireja on Jun 1, 2024 10:46:47 GMT -5
Big one today...
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 1, 2024 11:05:50 GMT -5
We’ve got a big one in College Station too as it’s Texas A&M-Texas, though elimination isn’t on the line. 8pm central on the big ESPN! As an added bonus if they cut to the booth you’ll even see me, last night they got a shot of us eating ice cream lol |
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Post by wOBA Fett on Jun 1, 2024 12:02:41 GMT -5
Chase Burns looks like a future #1 and Yesavage looks like a future #3.
If Yesavage can increase his velocity, it's a different profile.
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Post by crossedsabres8 on Jun 1, 2024 12:07:07 GMT -5
It's funny, this was supposed to be the winners bracket matchup. But instead it's an elimination game. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 1, 2024 13:32:50 GMT -5
Yesavage out pitches Burns
7.1IP, 1H, 1ER, 4BB, 6K
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5IP, 4H, 4ER, 4BB, 7K (Gave up a HR)
Looks like its gonna be a quick post season for Wake Forest
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Post by wOBA Fett on Jun 1, 2024 14:01:01 GMT -5
Yesavage out pitches Burns 7.1IP, 1H, 1ER, 4BB, 6K Vs. 5IP, 4H, 4ER, 4BB, 7K (Gave up a HR) Looks like its gonna be a quick post season for Wake Forest Yesavage reminds of John Lester (Boston) Burns reminds me of David Price (Tampa) |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 1, 2024 23:07:02 GMT -5
Hagen Smith got hit around by K-State 5IP, 4H, 6ER, 4BB, 7K and gave up this HR to Kaelen Culpepper.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jun 2, 2024 4:18:17 GMT -5
Yesavage out pitches Burns 7.1IP, 1H, 1ER, 4BB, 6K Vs. 5IP, 4H, 4ER, 4BB, 7K (Gave up a HR) Looks like its gonna be a quick post season for Wake Forest Yesavage reminds of John Lester (Boston) Burns reminds me of David Price (Tampa) Burns just seemed to lose it. Was impressed and he was still holding at 97+ till the end. |
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Post by ematz1423 on Jun 2, 2024 5:09:04 GMT -5
I know I'm basing this off one video of one pitch but something about that hagen Smith pitching motion doesn't look great to me at least on that one pitch.
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Post by bosoxnation on Jun 2, 2024 5:18:08 GMT -5
Chase Burns looks like a future #1 and Yesavage looks like a future #3. If Yesavage can increase his velocity, it's a different profile. No disrespect just wondering how you came to this conclusion? A 6 foot 4 beast with 4 plus pitches and his best pitch is a sweeper. Seems like someone who not only fits our team but reminds me alot of our current ACE Houck. I think hes the perfect fit for us and if he's there and we pass I'll be absolutely heartbroken lol |
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Post by nonothing on Jun 2, 2024 12:25:43 GMT -5
I know I'm basing this off one video of one pitch but something about that hagen Smith pitching motion doesn't look great to me at least on that one pitch. Had *exactly* the same thought/reaction. One pitch only, but the motion made me think, no, this isn't the right guy. We may be dopes, but at least dopes together? |
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Post by chr31ter on Jun 2, 2024 14:03:42 GMT -5
I mean, he'll be long gone, but is a 119 exit velocity any good?
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 2, 2024 23:56:31 GMT -5
35 hours of work later, regional is done. Thoughts may not come for a few days as it’s busy season at work, but there will be plenty. Buy Chris Cortez stock.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 3, 2024 22:32:57 GMT -5
Some prominent draft prospects bounced from the post season:
Nick Kurtz
Chase Burns
Hagen Smith
Trey Yesavage
Seaver King
Carson Benge
Tommy White
Dakota Jordan
Jurrangelo Cijntje
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Post by Foulke_In_Athol on Jun 3, 2024 23:32:09 GMT -5
I mean, he'll be long gone, but is a 119 exit velocity any good? Naw 119 means he just barely got a piece of it. You have to look for louder tools when it comes to scouting the draft on this board, keep looking though, there's plenty of sleepers out there. Just got to flip a few stones, comb through the weeds. |
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Post by seamus on Jun 4, 2024 10:03:09 GMT -5
I know I'm basing this off one video of one pitch but something about that hagen Smith pitching motion doesn't look great to me at least on that one pitch. Had *exactly* the same thought/reaction. One pitch only, but the motion made me think, no, this isn't the right guy. We may be dopes, but at least dopes together? Yeah, the elbow looks funky to me, too. Plenty of different pitching mechanics can be viable for a variety of body types, but that looks like a lot of stress on the elbow such that you'd have to hope he's an outlier when it comes to health and more traditional mechanics. |
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Post by jdb on Jun 4, 2024 19:05:03 GMT -5
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Post by nonothing on Jun 4, 2024 19:48:50 GMT -5
I would cry if we took another 2B in Round 1. |
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jun 4, 2024 20:21:59 GMT -5
I would cry if we took another 2B in Round 1. I would puke. Awful use of resources. Doubtful Yorke or Romero make it. Might as well make it a hat trick. |
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