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Post by terriblehondo on Aug 6, 2023 14:01:39 GMT -5
Really with this team it is the same crap different day. You think they suck and they will go on a run. You think that they have a shot and then it is flush the toilet. They are consistently inconsistent.
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Post by manfred on Aug 6, 2023 14:04:24 GMT -5
incandenza I hope you're ready for another offseason of arguing with people that knew a losing streak was coming immediately after the trade deadline Folks can go after skeptics, but at some point you have to acknowledge that these past years no one went broke betting against the Sox or the decision making process.
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Post by pappyman99 on Aug 6, 2023 14:06:35 GMT -5
incandenza I hope you're ready for another offseason of arguing with people that knew a losing streak was coming immediately after the trade deadline Folks can go after skeptics, but at some point you have to acknowledge that these past years no one went broke betting against the Sox or the decision making process. Yeah plus the quoted argument is just a scapegoat against what we’re actual logical arguments and some minor foresight at the time
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Post by soxfanatic on Aug 6, 2023 14:07:28 GMT -5
This should be Llovera's last outing for the Sox.
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Post by taiwansox on Aug 6, 2023 14:07:29 GMT -5
Astros’ bullpen just collapsed smh
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Post by wildsox on Aug 6, 2023 14:07:57 GMT -5
Where’s Robertson? Why is this guy still in the game
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Post by soxfan06 on Aug 6, 2023 14:08:29 GMT -5
Man, what I wouldn't give to go back a week and trade everyone from this team.
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Post by Canseco on Aug 6, 2023 14:09:36 GMT -5
Mediocrity or not, getting steamrolled at home in the most important series of the season (to date) tells me all I need to know about the makeup of this team. Deeply discouraging.
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Post by station13 on Aug 6, 2023 14:09:37 GMT -5
bums bumbs out the pen. Like the last several years. Where the hell do they get these guys?
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Post by blizzards39 on Aug 6, 2023 14:10:14 GMT -5
I just turned on. Why not go home. That’s Kirk running. Fuck this.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Aug 6, 2023 14:10:34 GMT -5
incandenza I hope you're ready for another offseason of arguing with people that knew a losing streak was coming immediately after the trade deadline I certainly didn't. I thought the big trouble would start in the second half of August. Check the schedule from Aug. 18 on. The most redundant argument is going to be about whether last place is actually last place.
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Post by manfred on Aug 6, 2023 14:10:53 GMT -5
Team was lucky as hell that Murphy pitched as long as he did without a blow up. Not a believer in him at all I do however still have some faith in Llovera. Really?
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Post by kevfc89 on Aug 6, 2023 14:11:03 GMT -5
I would think this loss will drop our playoff odds to under 10%.
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Post by radiohix on Aug 6, 2023 14:11:41 GMT -5
This thick boy can't face lhh lmao
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Post by manfred on Aug 6, 2023 14:11:41 GMT -5
Richard “White Flag” Bleier warming.
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 6, 2023 14:11:43 GMT -5
Okay maybe I don't believe in Llovera so much anymore
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Post by wildsox on Aug 6, 2023 14:11:47 GMT -5
Do something Cora!!!!!!
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Post by rico6 on Aug 6, 2023 14:12:03 GMT -5
I would think this loss will drop our playoff odds to under 10%. I agree 100%.
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Post by yuchangclan on Aug 6, 2023 14:12:04 GMT -5
One final thought....I blame Trevor Story. And Sale should have started for the Red Sox today.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 6, 2023 14:12:29 GMT -5
I agree with this, though I think they both get one more year unless this team finishes below .500 again. Then they're probably both gone. Most heads of baseball ops want "their guy" as a manager. Cora was presented to Mr. Bloom as a given. It appears they're on the same page most of the time, but Cora's "it's not about prospects or rankings of the farm" comment in July was revealing. I'm sure there's frustration on both ends. Anyway, still plenty of games to play. This team needs to fight, and I think Story and Sale (and later Whitlock and Houck) will bring some fight to the clubhouse. Maybe I'm missing some reporting, but I think you're really conjuring this whole idea about tension between Cora and Bloom out of thin air. I don't see any evidence of it. That one quote you keep referring to doesn't say anything to me beyond the fact that Bloom and Cora have different jobs - Cora's job isn't to build the farm system, it's to make the playoffs, and I think that's all he was saying. I'm sure he's a smart enough guy to understand that building a fram system is something that the organization has to do as well I did say that, for the most part, they're in agreement. However, I have read that there's been "some tension" between the two over the last couple years. Not saying it's make or break stuff. It seems academic when one guy is focused on the immediate (winning now) and the other is focused on long term strategy. But, other than that very recent comment by Cora re: prospects and rankings cited, he has said more than once this year and last that <paraphrasing> "The roster is the roster" implying that these are the players he has and he's doing the best he can with what he's been given. Either way, I was just sharing what McAdam said about Mr. Bloom being Kennedy's guy and Cora being Henry and Werner's guy. I'll stand by my statement, though, that if they finish below .500 again, both will probably be let go.
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Post by wOBA Fett on Aug 6, 2023 14:12:30 GMT -5
All season I've waited to see what rock bottom would look like.
Think we've found it.
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Post by station13 on Aug 6, 2023 14:13:01 GMT -5
What's not to like about Llovera?
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 6, 2023 14:13:56 GMT -5
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Post by rico6 on Aug 6, 2023 14:14:35 GMT -5
All season I've waited to see what rock bottom would look like. Think we've found it. Not sure. Verdugo said there's 7 more weeks.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Aug 6, 2023 14:14:54 GMT -5
Too soon for a gutless proclamation but it's warming in the bullpen. Gutless.
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