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Post by Guidas on Aug 11, 2023 15:13:32 GMT -5
Yu made it through! Cleared waivers and headed to the Woo Apparently the rest of MLB does not value him as highly as many people here.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Aug 11, 2023 15:15:41 GMT -5
I was thinking Rafaela up, not Dalbec. Three things could happen there: 1) Rafaela isn’t as good as Turner. 2) Rafaela is really good and then what do you do in 10 days when Turner is ready, who sits? 3) Cora doesn’t play Rafaela much If you really thought he was gonna tear it up then you do it, but I don’t think they’re so confident in that. He goes back down after Turner is back. He would be last guy on the bench, but might still impact a game with his speed/ defense.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 11, 2023 15:49:30 GMT -5
A game without Jarren Duran starts out as a 79% chance of a loss.
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Post by incandenza on Aug 11, 2023 15:56:18 GMT -5
A game without Jarren Duran starts out as a 79% chance of a loss. They're 5-2 in games he didn't start since July 1st.
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Post by redsoxpride34 on Aug 11, 2023 15:58:45 GMT -5
I was thinking Rafaela up, not Dalbec. Three things could happen there: 1) Rafaela isn’t as good as Turner. 2) Rafaela is really good and then what do you do in 10 days when Turner is ready, who sits? 3) Cora doesn’t play Rafaela much If you really thought he was gonna tear it up then you do it, but I don’t think they’re so confident in that. If Rafaella is really good then you keep playing him. Pretty simple decision. Turner is a 38 yr old DH who could be gone after the season. If the injury does actually take 4-6 weeks, then turner is pretty much done for the season. At his age there is no reason to push him to play through it or get back quicker. If he comes back before the end of the season and Rafaella is doing well, you cross that bridge when you get there. The dumbest thing the sox could do is keep dragging this out and have turner try to play through it. And who knows, maybe Rafaella is the jolt the line up needs. Also would be nice to get Yoshida out of LF and into the DH role. Outfield d would be significantly stronger.
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Post by art on Aug 11, 2023 16:03:34 GMT -5
Refsnyder 7 Devers 5 Duvall 8 Yoshida DH Story 6 Verdugo 9 Reyes 4 Casas 3 Wong 2 Story should be batting 9th until he relearns the strike zone.
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Post by remmartin34 on Aug 11, 2023 16:18:18 GMT -5
Regarding Duran.. I said it before they put him in the lineup against a lefty last night.. Literally could have been working him into it at any point in July when he was hitting the cover off the ball.
The decision to do so when he's shown for about 8 straight games that he's a little out of it, approach wise. That was not ideal, in my opinion. I'd definitely play him Sunday against ERod though, he's not devastating against lefties.
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Post by yuchangclan on Aug 11, 2023 16:22:55 GMT -5
Nestor Cortes back to the DL with rotator cuff issues. His season is likely over. They have German done for the year, Montas totally MIA, Rodon on the DL & Severino with an ERA over 8. It’s truly Cole and pray for rain. We see them next week.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 11, 2023 16:24:11 GMT -5
Yu made it through! Cleared waivers and headed to the Woo A unique way to accumulate talent.
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Post by yuchangclan on Aug 11, 2023 16:24:53 GMT -5
Regarding Duran.. I said it before they put him in the lineup against a lefty last night.. Literally could have been working him into it at any point in July when he was hitting the cover off the ball. The decision to do so when he's shown for about 8 straight games that he's a little out of it, approach wise. That was not ideal, in my opinion. I'd definitely play him Sunday against ERod though, he's not devastating against lefties. One of my biggest beefs with Cora is that he treats every opposing lefty starter as if they were Randy Johnson. He’s overthinking it. Guys like Casas and Duran need the reps against 80-90% of the lefties they face. If they see a particularly nasty one, I understand it. But there aren’t too many of those.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Aug 11, 2023 16:29:20 GMT -5
As I'm sitting in Olympic stadium waiting for "Pantera" and Metallica I'm very interested to see how Sale does tonight.
I also understand why this stadium sucks for many different reasons.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 11, 2023 16:44:57 GMT -5
Regarding Duran.. I said it before they put him in the lineup against a lefty last night.. Literally could have been working him into it at any point in July when he was hitting the cover off the ball. The decision to do so when he's shown for about 8 straight games that he's a little out of it, approach wise. That was not ideal, in my opinion. I'd definitely play him Sunday against ERod though, he's not devastating against lefties. One of my biggest beefs with Cora is that he treats every opposing lefty starter as if they were Randy Johnson. He’s overthinking it. Guys like Casas and Duran need the reps against 80-90% of the lefties they face. If they see a particularly nasty one, I understand it. But there aren’t too many of those. The antithesis of Farrell, who had excellent platoons and didn’t take advantage of it for some reason.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 11, 2023 16:47:50 GMT -5
A game without Jarren Duran starts out as a 79% chance of a loss. They're 5-2 in games he didn't start since July 1st. Such an arbitray start point. Annnnd if we go back to April when he announced his presence with authority?
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Post by scottysmalls on Aug 11, 2023 16:53:32 GMT -5
Yu made it through! Cleared waivers and headed to the Woo A unique way to accumulate talent. yunique*
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Post by carmenfanzone on Aug 11, 2023 17:12:35 GMT -5
Turner’s only missed four games. I don’t think it’s crazy to prefer to have a short bench for a week and Turner for a week than Dalbec for two weeks. I was thinking Rafaela up, not Dalbec. Me too. I think Rafaela could help in ways that Dabec could not. But I would rather have Dalbec than a Turner who couldn't play against a lefty yesterday, isn't starting again tonight against another tough lefty and with the team facing another lefty on Sunday. We no longer have the luxury of not maximizing our chance to win every remaining game. Maybe Rafaela wouldn't help tonight or Sunday. But don't you owe it to the rest of the players on the team to try it if Turner can't play? Perhaps I am still bothered by the "we are long shots" comment as justification for failing to make a trade for a starter. Even if that were true, why would you say that? I know the players are professional athletes, but hearing your boss doesn't think you're good enough can't help. And they have been hitting like they aren't good enough ever since. Score some damn runs and win tonight.
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 11, 2023 17:26:07 GMT -5
Yu made it through! Cleared waivers and headed to the Woo SIX MILLION DEVILS JUST DIED FROM THE BULBONIC FLU!
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Post by incandenza on Aug 11, 2023 17:51:50 GMT -5
They're 5-2 in games he didn't start since July 1st. Such an arbitray start point. Annnnd if we go back to April when he announced his presence with authority? Yes, well. I feel like your "79% chance" stat had a touch of arbitrariness to it... and perhaps you could allow some facetiousness in response to your own facetious comment?
My official position is that I don't care that much about these lineup questions; I can see the arguments either way.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 11, 2023 17:53:26 GMT -5
Can’t Chang decide to become a free agent? How does this work for an arb guy like him?
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Post by redsoxpride34 on Aug 11, 2023 17:56:20 GMT -5
Regarding Duran.. I said it before they put him in the lineup against a lefty last night.. Literally could have been working him into it at any point in July when he was hitting the cover off the ball. The decision to do so when he's shown for about 8 straight games that he's a little out of it, approach wise. That was not ideal, in my opinion. I'd definitely play him Sunday against ERod though, he's not devastating against lefties. One of my biggest beefs with Cora is that he treats every opposing lefty starter as if they were Randy Johnson. He’s overthinking it. Guys like Casas and Duran need the reps against 80-90% of the lefties they face. If they see a particularly nasty one, I understand it. But there aren’t too many of those. Couldn't agree more. I'd let casas, duran and verdugo play vs lefties. Refsnyder is not close to any of those 3 offensively and is below avg defensively.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Aug 11, 2023 18:04:47 GMT -5
Can’t Chang decide to become a free agent? How does this work for an arb guy like him? He accepted the outright to AAA and stayed with the Red Sox org. His choice to stay. He must feel it is his best option to get back to the MLB.
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 11, 2023 18:06:22 GMT -5
Rob Refsnyder has the highest OBP in baseball against left-handed pitching.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 11, 2023 18:14:38 GMT -5
What do we think Sale’s pitch count is?
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Post by Guidas on Aug 11, 2023 18:17:38 GMT -5
Such an arbitray start point. Annnnd if we go back to April when he announced his presence with authority? Yes, well. I feel like your "79% chance" stat had a touch of arbitrariness to it... and perhaps you could allow some facetiousness in response to your own facetious comment? My official position is that I don't care that much about these lineup questions; I can see the arguments either way.
It was waaay facetious. I almost wrote, "Sure - but if you go back and use April as the starting date, they're winless." But, somehow, some people here take stuff seriously. Anyway, it's a game thread. Just beat the frigging Tigers!
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Post by Guidas on Aug 11, 2023 18:19:22 GMT -5
Rob Refsnyder has the highest OBP in baseball against left-handed pitching. THAT is an awesome stat! I wish my meme creation skills were better because I would bust out a WWRRD(vs. Lefties) graphic.
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Post by blizzards39 on Aug 11, 2023 18:24:23 GMT -5
What do we think Sale’s pitch count is? Under 70
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