Patriots 2023 Season Thread

I’m more in line with what you are saying here but i wouldn’t hate UMASS plan but i think half of 14m is too much. If he’s back for $4m or less I’m good with it. $4-7m I’m accepting of it but not siked.

The list of successful QBs after the 10th pick narrows greatly. I'm personally worried about getting older QBs. We're ready to give up on Mac Jones and he's 25. Bo Nix and Pennix are 23. So they'll be entering the league at roughly the same age everyone wants to give up on Mac.

I'm just getting Maye or Williams if either are available. It could be a disaster, but that's the game.

I was going to, but then didn't feel like getting yelled at about the source again lol



On another topic, conspiracy theory on my part. There were murmurs that some Patriots players felt like they should have tried Malik when both Mac and Zappe looked terrible. I'm wondering if putting him on waivers was a way for Bill to shut the door on that?

Probably not happening, but Mike Vrabel would be awesome.

He wasn’t out on waivers. Teams can sign players off other teams practice squads as long as it’s to their regular roster.

No worries with me about older QBs, especially if it means they have much more experience in multiple offensive systems. Mac Jones biggest issue coming out was not even remotely close to 3 years starting. Williams has that, Maye only has two years.

I take Williams no matter what and I'm likely not passing on Maye, that was an exercise in what if we win 2 games and don't get a top 3 pick. What do you do then type crap. You can trade down, still get a player at position of need, then have extra ammo to trade up for another QB if there's one you like.

I know you disagree, but worst thing for me would be by passing elite safe talent to go after QBs 3-5 and over drafting them.

So, maybe I'm coming around a tiny bit. If Williams or Maye are there, grab no question for me. After that, I prefer a QB, but if MHJ is there, just grab him and then hope you can trade back in to get whatever QB is still available. There's a lot of depth in the 1st round so if you're not crazy about any of them then it's important to just get the best talent and trade back in to land on any of the available guys.

But if the option of the top 2 QBs in a deep draft are there, go get them.

That’s specifically the opposite of what Tom E said in that article- that the wins now don’t matter and the decision has been made

Believe what you want for sure- you could be right- but Kraft was pretty adamant before the season about this being a playoff season. It then ended up being his worst season owning the team. I don’t see Bill surviving, especially in a scenario if he’s not going to give control over the roster to a GM


They haven’t scored in 3 of the 4 halves quarterbacked by Zappe so let’s not act like Mac was the only problem with the team. He’s certainly bad but this isn’t close to a playoff team even if Zappe plays all year. We almost blew a big league to Trubisky ffs lol

Didn’t realize “Mitch Trubisky isn’t good” would be considered a radio talking point hot take.

Begs the question why the Bears moved on from him so soon after giving up so much for him and why nobody has given him the reigns since (you know the answer to that and you’re being incredibly disingenuous right now). Imagine thinking a single game in 2018 is relevant to who he is as a player 2 organizations and 5 years later while he’s getting booed off the field by his own fans for being awful lmao


He’s a legitimate nfl player in that he’s a fine backup qb. You shouldn’t come close to blowing a 3 score lead in a half of football against him if you’re a team worth a damn. You got roethlisberger saying the Steelers tradition is dead right after the game the Trubador sucked in and you want to sit here and argue he’s good lmao…have right at it. Weird hill to die on, I’m not gonna waste anymore time on it

Matt Flynn once threw for 6 touchdowns in a game. He sucked, and so does Trubisky

No, I’m saying Kraft seems to have made the decision already and whatever happens from here on out (win or loss) is irrelevant. Not that difficult of a position to ascertain.


And lol zappe played 1 good half of football and what happened in the next half? Yet another shutout half, making it 3 of 4. Yeah man it’s really aged super poorly. He’s great lmao. Although you thought he was good when he didn’t get into the red zone the game prior against one of the worst pass defenses in the sport so I guess we must have different standards for qb performance

Totally silliness in this thread. Now both Trubisky and Zappe are good nfl QB’s apparently and we were watching the pinnacle of offensive football on Thursday night. 55% completion with 3 td and 3 picks, QBR of 27.2…..what a monster lmao

The talk radio talking point is, roughly and adjustable for sport & argument: Well, so you beat THEY/THEM but let me say THEY/THEM are not any good so beating THEY/THEM is like not winning at all. 

Every team plays THEY/THEM and in this particular case, against this particular player, they've lost (31 times) more than they've won (25 times). 

So "almost lost to Trubisky ffs" would not be some crime, to a reasonable person.

He's been good enough to start 56 games in the National Football League which likely makes him better at playing football than any of his critics on this board are at anything they've ever attempted to do in life. 

Btw, I wouldn't want him as my QB. But to refer to him as some sort of joke seems ... offensive to a fan of sports. I can't do what he does. This time it was MVP Mitch, but the same "argument" gets repeated ad nauseum with other teams/players substituted. It's lazy. It's also inaccurate.

Fans booed him means he can't play? lol Fans booed Ted Freakin' Williams, the greatest hitter who ever lived. 

Hey, Texans lost to Zach Wilson (doesn't Zach stink, like the absolute worst?) this week ffs -- how do we score that one? Zach lit them up. And it was a BIG game. Should they fire the HC? And Tua & the Dolphins lost to a rookie QB who has a 37 QBR -- does that make them FRAUDS?