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Post by yuchangclan on Mar 9, 2024 0:58:34 GMT -5
Now there's a take we haven't seen this offseason!
His only concrete suggestion is that they should sign Montgomery, and in the same column he says that Montgomery is asking for 7 years. No gracias.
Seven years. Seven!! Can you imagine this being a realistic proposal as we approach Mid-March? Personally, I’d be shocked to see him get more than 3 years at this point. |
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Post by cdj on Mar 9, 2024 2:30:39 GMT -5
There’s never been a scenario where 7 years was possible for him and I hope Jordan understands that. He’s just not even close to that guy. I say that as a guy whose been advocating for him all offseason
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Post by steveofbradenton on Mar 9, 2024 6:50:18 GMT -5
There’s never been a scenario where 7 years was possible for him and I hope Jordan understands that. He’s just not even close to that guy. I say that as a guy whose been advocating for him all offseason Agree Big Time! My goodness I had no idea he was crazy to believe anyone would give him 7. Actually, giving him 5 would be somewhat of a problem for me. The longer he holds out the less desirable he is in my opinion. Boras and Monthy are smoking something pretty strong. At this point, a starting pitcher would have little chance of being ready to start the season. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 9, 2024 11:24:30 GMT -5
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Post by nomar on Mar 9, 2024 11:26:54 GMT -5
The baseball gods have spoken. Every Red Sox player in a contract year must go down |
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Post by chaimtime on Mar 9, 2024 11:27:17 GMT -5
Jon Heyman believes the Red Sox should cave in to Scott Boras’s demands and sign some atrocious contracts. I’m shocked, absolutely shocked!
The main attraction to Montgomery was that he was supposed to be available for a reasonable deal that would let him raise the floor of a high-risk rotation in the early years before settling in as a reliable mid-rotation option in his later years. If he’s asking to be paid like an ace, which seems to be the case, then that whole premise goes out the window.
At this point, barring a substantial change on both sides, it just doesn’t seem like there’s a deal to be had here. I’m going to assume he’s not coming and will ignore any FA news that isn’t “player has signed with Boston” going forward.
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Post by nomar on Mar 9, 2024 11:35:28 GMT -5
Jon Heyman believes the Red Sox should cave in to Scott Boras’s demands and sign some atrocious contracts. I’m shocked, absolutely shocked! The main attraction to Montgomery was that he was supposed to be available for a reasonable deal that would let him raise the floor of a high-risk rotation in the early years before settling in as a reliable mid-rotation option in his later years. If he’s asking to be paid like an ace, which seems to be the case, then that whole premise goes out the window. At this point, barring a substantial change on both sides, it just doesn’t seem like there’s a deal to be had here. I’m going to assume he’s not coming and will ignore any FA news that isn’t “player has signed with Boston” going forward. It feels like Montgomery has a mediocre at best market. The article that came out about him wanting 7 years yesterday is absurd. I almost don’t believe he’ll even get 5 anymore. |
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Post by grandsalami on Mar 9, 2024 11:39:43 GMT -5
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Post by asm18 on Mar 9, 2024 11:54:02 GMT -5
Groin tightness for Martin.
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Post by grandsalami on Mar 9, 2024 12:07:50 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Mar 9, 2024 12:29:44 GMT -5
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Post by ematz1423 on Mar 9, 2024 12:40:59 GMT -5
Is that guy a baseball player or a body builder? My goodness. I love Casas hope he's a Sox for life.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Mar 9, 2024 12:51:10 GMT -5
Jon Heyman believes the Red Sox should cave in to Scott Boras’s demands and sign some atrocious contracts. I’m shocked, absolutely shocked! The main attraction to Montgomery was that he was supposed to be available for a reasonable deal that would let him raise the floor of a high-risk rotation in the early years before settling in as a reliable mid-rotation option in his later years. If he’s asking to be paid like an ace, which seems to be the case, then that whole premise goes out the window. At this point, barring a substantial change on both sides, it just doesn’t seem like there’s a deal to be had here. I’m going to assume he’s not coming and will ignore any FA news that isn’t “player has signed with Boston” going forward. While I agree with the tone of Heyman's article (the part about the Red Sox person commenting on how Liverpool's fortunes and the fortune of the Red Sox go in opposite directions was notable for me), his parroting of Boras was utterly ridiculous in comparing Monthomery to Jon Lester and recommending that the Sox give Montgomery 7 years until he's 38. At this point the Sox, if they can, should figure out a way to extend Casas, should do it. Which would mean zero chance of Montgomery, who I think at this point has zero desire to come to the Sox. If he had then maybe there would have been some sort of compromise. He's not getting the Rodon money he thought he was getting. I guess extend Casas although I'm doubtful that the Sox figure out a way to make this happen, and then sign a Lorenzen or Clevenger and have Odorizzi and Rich Hill on standby when more injuries hit. They're not even half way thru March and they're getting hit hard by injuries and their depth or lack of it will be exposed. Seeing that this is the team they have I see them as a 75 win team that could land at 70 or even below if injuries keep happening and eventually they'd sell off whoever isn't coming back next year. This could shape up to be a very long year. |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Mar 9, 2024 14:50:03 GMT -5
Jon Heyman believes the Red Sox should cave in to Scott Boras’s demands and sign some atrocious contracts ... Like the man said, "Quid pro quo, Clarise." That "insider" information doesn't grow on trees, now does it? Here's a little something that'll brighten your day: |
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Post by ematz1423 on Mar 9, 2024 15:02:40 GMT -5
Hahaha I just gotta say thanks for sharing that video. I laughed my butt off at it.
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Post by carl4sox on Mar 9, 2024 16:54:19 GMT -5
Earlier it said today's game was on NESN. Now NESN says it's on Fubo.
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Post by carl4sox on Mar 9, 2024 17:12:57 GMT -5
And yet...it's on NESN.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Mar 9, 2024 22:27:38 GMT -5
Here in Oregon, Fubo carries ROOT, the RSN with the Mariners' broadcasts. If you have the same situation back there, you can get it on NESN your local RSN, or fed through Fubo. Both are true.
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Post by asm18 on Mar 10, 2024 7:41:50 GMT -5
Dalbec has struck out in 10 of his last 17 at-bats in spring training so far (h/t Red Sox Stats). In Triple A Worcester last year, he had a 34% strikeout rate.
I realize his 2021 numbers were partly a result of an incredibly hot August to mid-September - but how do you go from 25 bombs and a 106 wRC+ at age 26 to possibly unplayable in such a short timeframe? It’s hard to trust him right now against any pitcher that’s not like a soft tossing lefty.
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Post by jimoh on Mar 10, 2024 10:10:20 GMT -5
Dalbec has struck out in 10 of his last 17 at-bats in spring training so far (h/t Red Sox Stats). In Triple A Worcester last year, he had a 34% strikeout rate. I realize his 2021 numbers were partly a result of an incredibly hot August to mid-September - but how do you go from 25 bombs and a 106 wRC+ at age 26 to possibly unplayable in such a short timeframe? It’s hard to trust him right now against any pitcher that’s not like a soft tossing lefty. Dalbec's career numbers include two hot streaks, one for "all" of 2020 (95 PA of .263 .359 .600 .959) and one in 2021 (about 90 PA of .329 .411 .785 1.196--you can look at slightly different numbers of PA too) after which he coouldn't hit at all the rest off 2021 (.095 .095 .381 .476 in 21PA) and in the postseason (0-12 with 5 Ks). In 2023 in mlb he struck out 11 times in 22 PA (50%) vs LEFT HANDED PITCHERS. He turns 29 in June. |
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Post by incandenza on Mar 10, 2024 10:55:55 GMT -5
Dalbec has struck out in 10 of his last 17 at-bats in spring training so far (h/t Red Sox Stats). In Triple A Worcester last year, he had a 34% strikeout rate. I realize his 2021 numbers were partly a result of an incredibly hot August to mid-September - but how do you go from 25 bombs and a 106 wRC+ at age 26 to possibly unplayable in such a short timeframe? It’s hard to trust him right now against any pitcher that’s not like a soft tossing lefty. Dalbec's career numbers include two hot streaks, one for "all" of 2020 (95 PA of .263 .359 .600 .959) and one in 2021 (about 90 PA of .329 .411 .785 1.196--you can look at slightly different numbers of PA too) after which he coouldn't hit at all the rest off 2021 (.095 .095 .381 .476 in 21PA) and in the postseason (0-12 with 5 Ks). In 2023 in mlb he struck out 11 times in 22 PA (50%) vs LEFT HANDED PITCHERS. He turns 29 in June. I feel like your estimate of Dalbec's period of competence keeps getting shorter and shorter. But from 6/10/21 to 8/21/21 he hit .272/.326/.506, a 117 wRC+ in 172 PAs. That was immediately before he hit .329/.414/.789, a 212 wRC+ in 87 PAs. To that point in his career he had an .834 OPS, a 118 wRC+ in 524 PAs, had been "hot" for most of his time in the majors, and only appeared to be getting better.
That doesn't change the fact that, sadly, he seems like he might be washed up. I just don't understand your insistence on making it seem like he was never a promising hitter but for one illusory month.
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Post by asm18 on Mar 10, 2024 12:20:16 GMT -5
Is Jackson Holliday the scariest 12 year old since Devers?
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Post by sxfan on Mar 10, 2024 19:20:15 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 11, 2024 9:08:09 GMT -5
Luis Guerrero and AJ Politi reassigned to minor league camp. 52 players left in major league camp.
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Post by notstarboard on Mar 11, 2024 9:14:00 GMT -5
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