mobaz
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Post by mobaz on Jan 28, 2024 19:08:16 GMT -5
I really don't think any team deserves to go to the Super Bowl this year...
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jan 28, 2024 21:41:02 GMT -5
Odd how about two weeks ago an ad had both KC and SF listed for the Super Bowl. Sure it was merely an accident AND also just an amazing coincidence. You can fool most people most of the time.
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Post by 07redsox on Jan 28, 2024 22:13:21 GMT -5
Odd how about two weeks ago an ad had both KC and SF listed for the Super Bowl. Sure it was merely an accident AND also just an amazing coincidence. You can fool most people most of the time. You mean the 49ers and Ravens? That’s the only “leak” that I saw…which clearly was incorrect… |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jan 28, 2024 23:15:34 GMT -5
I've maintained even since the crying that KC was going to win it all and Kelce was going to propose during the ceremony.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 28, 2024 23:54:13 GMT -5
I've maintained even since the crying that KC was going to win it all and Kelce was going to propose during the ceremony. Brock Purdy is now the only man standing between us and that soap opera atrocity. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 29, 2024 6:56:18 GMT -5
Odd how about two weeks ago an ad had both KC and SF listed for the Super Bowl. Sure it was merely an accident AND also just an amazing coincidence. You can fool most people most of the time. Imagine being the NFL and NOT having ads together for every reasonable matchup? |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jan 29, 2024 13:35:33 GMT -5
Matt Chatham suggests holding the "anointing oils" just a bit longer:
Further into the thread we encounter this eye-opening chart:
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Matt also wonders if Brock Purdy had Mahomes spray chart on Sunday while putting up only 17 points vs. the Lions what the narrative might have been postgame?
Media gonna media & fans gonna fan is the bottom line.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jan 29, 2024 13:56:03 GMT -5
Detroit fans today.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jan 29, 2024 15:34:35 GMT -5
Dane Brugler of The Athletic has a nice write-up anticipating Senior Bowl Week & some QBs in particular:
He also shares thoughts of league people & his own on Penix and Nix, concluding with:
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 29, 2024 16:16:58 GMT -5
I don't get that, over last two years Penix has been crazy consistent, outside of one game which is his most recent against a monster D. If you go back further both Penix and Nix weren't consistent at Indiana and Auburn.
If you look at what most people have as the top 8 QBs guys, what makes Penix standout besides injuries is he's the only pure pocket passer among the group. I want to love Nix, put I also want to see him make the throws in the pocket that Penix can.
With Rattler I can see how people would say his sense of urgency weren't NFL level. Horrible OL, but his willingness to stay in the pocket, move around and take a big hit to make the throw was a plus to me. He's not going to be Mac Jones were everything falls apart due to pressure and mistakes. He's just a hard evaluation because his OL and RB production was by far the worst of the top 7 QBs I've watched so far. He was running a vertical attack offense and making a lot of NFL level throws, with that OL in the SEC. Also lost his top receiving target from last year 3 games in. Would have loved to see him with his top 2 guys all year.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Jan 29, 2024 19:34:54 GMT -5
Detroit Lions..Patriots and Falcons redux
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Post by badfishnbc on Jan 30, 2024 15:49:54 GMT -5
Getsy is getting a second interview. Wild speculation here, but I wonder how much they're trying to glean about Fields and what will make him successful, for a possible acquisition... |
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Post by cdj on Jan 30, 2024 17:58:02 GMT -5
Getsy is getting a second interview. Wild speculation here, but I wonder how much they're trying to glean about Fields and what will make him successful, for a possible acquisition... Had the same thought |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jan 30, 2024 18:54:41 GMT -5
I like that in my own head I'm annoyed with the idea of MHJ and Justin Fields on the Patriots, but somehow also convinced myself that's a great move for Chicago.
If the Patriots can't move up to 1 then that's probably the best option available. Unless the Bears decide to draft MHJ or hold onto Fields for the last year of his contract and try to have Caleb Williams learn behind him. I doubt either scenario though.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 30, 2024 22:50:12 GMT -5
Right now hiring the correct OC is all they should be doing. It's the most important thing Mayo has to do. The slow pace because he lacks contacts and relationships is upsetting. Important thing is getting the right guy.
If you believe in Fields doesn't that mean Getsy isn't any good? Yet multiple 2nd interviews with teams for OC position. Patriots and Saints.
I love Caleb Williams, so I want to believe the Bears are stupid enough to pass on him or trade away the right to draft him. I wouldn't bet on it, you don't pass on guys like Caleb Williams.
Marvin Harrison Jr. Makes a ton of sense at #3. Trading for Fields does nothing for me, especially if the cost is a 2nd or 3rd round pick. I'd rather so many other players, heck I can talk myself into Jacoby Brisset over him. Dare I say I'd go with Zappe and say a draft pick like Rattler if you want to focus on the rest of the offense early in draft. Year 3 and Fields still locks onto one guy and doesn't go through his reads.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jan 30, 2024 23:26:42 GMT -5
Luke Getsy would have a job if Fields ran his offense better. Don’t see the connection at all.
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Post by texs31 on Jan 31, 2024 7:40:56 GMT -5
Inserting myself for as a point of clarification. It didn't seem like people were suggesting they'd hire Getsy and then trade for Fields. Only that they were using multiple interviews to glean information about Fields.
No other skin in this conversation. Only pointing out the distinction (at least my interpretation).
Carry on.
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Post by badfishnbc on Jan 31, 2024 9:09:07 GMT -5
Right now hiring the correct OC is all they should be doing. It's the most important thing Mayo has to do. The slow pace because he lacks contacts and relationships is upsetting. Important thing is getting the right guy. I hadn't seen that tidbit - who was reporting that? I agree with the critical importance of this hire. I'm not sure extensive contacts and relations are needed to bring in quality candidates. And at the end of the day, there's only 32 OC jobs, each of which can serve as a springboard to one of the 32 NFL HC jobs, or any number of HC gigs at the college ranks. We're seeing a strong philosophical thread amongst the current OC candidates and I think it comes down to ensuring an alignment with organizational and football vision, or as you said, "getting the right guy." Does us no good to have someone who is looking to jump ship in a year, or doesn't want to work with a rookie QB or invest heavily in the run game. Mayo has had plenty of time to think about what he would want his offense to be about - he didn't just start jotting down ideas on a napkin 15 minutes after the getting the gig. So the deliberate pace is fine to me. I'd be screaming right now if he'd tapped one of the OC candidates who've already been hired by Pittsburgh, Cleveland and Carolina. Gladly that hasn't been the case. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 31, 2024 9:58:44 GMT -5
Inserting myself for as a point of clarification. It didn't seem like people were suggesting they'd hire Getsy and then trade for Fields. Only that they were using multiple interviews to glean information about Fields. No other skin in this conversation. Only pointing out the distinction (at least my interpretation). Carry on. That seems crazy and that's exactly the way I took it. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 31, 2024 10:21:32 GMT -5
Right now hiring the correct OC is all they should be doing. It's the most important thing Mayo has to do. The slow pace because he lacks contacts and relationships is upsetting. Important thing is getting the right guy. I hadn't seen that tidbit - who was reporting that? I agree with the critical importance of this hire. I'm not sure extensive contacts and relations are needed to bring in quality candidates. And at the end of the day, there's only 32 OC jobs, each of which can serve as a springboard to one of the 32 NFL HC jobs, or any number of HC gigs at the college ranks. We're seeing a strong philosophical thread amongst the current OC candidates and I think it comes down to ensuring an alignment with organizational and football vision, or as you said, "getting the right guy." Does us no good to have someone who is looking to jump ship in a year, or doesn't want to work with a rookie QB or invest heavily in the run game. Mayo has had plenty of time to think about what he would want his offense to be about - he didn't just start jotting down ideas on a napkin 15 minutes after the getting the gig. So the deliberate pace is fine to me. I'd be screaming right now if he'd tapped one of the OC candidates who've already been hired by Pittsburgh, Cleveland and Carolina. Gladly that hasn't been the case. Mayo himself said it to the Media, he's leaning on the front office and ownership to help him with OC search. It's why I wanted to hire a HC with experience on with offense. They didn't so finding the right OC is his most important hire. So we really think his 2nd and right now only guy he doesn't know in person interview isn't legit? It's about information on Fields? Per Mayo own words his focus is on filling out the coaching staff before he gets going on everything else. It makes perfect sense, he's going to lean on the OC for input on offensive players. |
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Post by texs31 on Jan 31, 2024 11:06:22 GMT -5
Mark Daniels retweeting a comment pointing out that Getsy and Caley worked together at Akron. He wonders if Getsy could be QB Coach with Caley as OC.
Larger point being these interviews aren't all because they want the guy as "the guy". Information gathering, other positions, etc.
It's an opportunity to talk to folks that you otherwise don't have access to.
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Post by texs31 on Jan 31, 2024 11:11:29 GMT -5
If you believe in Fields doesn't that mean Getsy isn't any good? Yet multiple 2nd interviews with teams for OC position. Patriots and Saints. This would suggest it's NOT "exactly how you took it". |
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Post by costpet on Jan 31, 2024 12:04:50 GMT -5
Pats still needing an OC. With BB not going anywhere, I think McDaniels would be a perfect fit for a young QB to learn how to be good. I wonder if he’s been interviewed about the position. I’m
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Post by badfishnbc on Jan 31, 2024 14:56:22 GMT -5
What am I missing with our new special teams coordinator? The Rams were dreadful in that area last season. What was it about that guy, who wasn't the lead but still part of the staff, that made Mayo say "yeah, that's the guy." I guess I don't know enough about football to see where on special teams the responsibilities lie.
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Post by mobaz on Jan 31, 2024 15:04:02 GMT -5
Mayo himself said it to the Media, he's leaning on the front office and ownership to help him with OC search. I t's why I wanted to hire a HC with experience on with offense. They didn't so finding the right OC is his most important hire. So we really think his 2nd and right now only guy he doesn't know in person interview isn't legit? It's about information on Fields? Per Mayo own words his focus is on filling out the coaching staff before he gets going on everything else. It makes perfect sense, he's going to lean on the OC for input on offensive players. The highest priority of the HC is leadership and culture, big in-game decisions second, and specific playcalling is third, IMHO, which does make me feel better about Mayo. However, I realize now that I wish we'd hired an offensive HC. The only way to have offensive stability is to have the HC bring and maintain the philosophy and be in charge of growing a line of succession. I'd say the same is true about D, but recent successful teams seem to be adapting more on D and keeping a steady offensive philosophy. Starting from scratch again on offense is maddening, and even if "the guy" succeeds, no idea that he'd stick around more than a year or two. I think I said earlier in the thread, it seems to be an Up-or-Out world on offense. The coordinator ranks are Now, we had no connection to any of the offensive gurus that have been hired or stayed, which puts us behind, and a bunch of interest didn't move at all. So Mayo is better than striking out on one of the top options. |
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