cdj
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Post by cdj on Mar 28, 2024 15:33:19 GMT -5
Drake Maye slinging in his pro day workout
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Post by pedroelgrande on Mar 28, 2024 17:12:21 GMT -5
No way the Commanders pass on him.
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 28, 2024 18:50:12 GMT -5
No no, hear me out here Washington, do you know what college JJ McGOATy went to? The same as Brady. He’s a proven winner and a leader of men. Just take him, trust me.
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Post by rasimon on Mar 28, 2024 18:52:51 GMT -5
Cody Davis retires
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Post by philarhody on Mar 28, 2024 21:07:02 GMT -5
No no, hear me out here Washington, do you know what college JJ McGOATy went to? The same as Brady. He’s a proven winner and a leader of men. Just take him, trust me. Yeah. He does yoga under the goal post an hour before games. He’s so good |
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Post by philarhody on Mar 28, 2024 21:08:47 GMT -5
For the bologna sandwich people. For those people who can't stand being wrong like Mac hitting JuJU in the hands and blaming Mac for it. Unreal. People forget that Kraft hired Belichick because he was open to a collaborative relationship, unlike Parcells who said beat it. I’m so sick of Kraft. |
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Post by philarhody on Mar 28, 2024 21:09:51 GMT -5
No way the Commanders pass on him. It would likely be an historically bad decision. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 28, 2024 21:44:26 GMT -5
Unreal. People forget that Kraft hired Belichick because he was open to a collaborative relationship, unlike Parcells who said beat it. I’m so sick of Kraft. Yeah, hiring Bill turned out awfully. |
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Post by philarhody on Mar 28, 2024 21:50:31 GMT -5
Unreal. People forget that Kraft hired Belichick because he was open to a collaborative relationship, unlike Parcells who said beat it. I’m so sick of Kraft. Yeah, hiring Bill turned out awfully. Hiring Bill after hiring Parcells and Carroll reveals that Kraft has a profound understanding of other men’s genius; Running each of those men out of town reveals that Kraft seriously overestimates his own. |
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Post by pedromartinez1999 on Mar 28, 2024 22:11:34 GMT -5
Unreal. People forget that Kraft hired Belichick because he was open to a collaborative relationship, unlike Parcells who said beat it. I’m so sick of Kraft. Yeah, hiring Bill turned out awfully. Do you think Tom Brady had something to do with it or was it all BB? |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Mar 29, 2024 0:05:18 GMT -5
I'm thinking as soon as draft pick #199 -- Brian Griese's former back-up and Drew Henson's platoon partner -- showed up in Foxborough, Bill's work was done. Sit back and watch the kid cook.
He had a nice ride on that kid's back. Kind of like how Shula won all those Super Bowls with Marino, Tony Dungy with Peyton Manning.
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Post by aboynamedkimandrew on Mar 29, 2024 1:03:01 GMT -5
I'm thinking as soon as draft pick #199 -- Brian Griese's former back-up and Drew Henson's platoon partner -- showed up in Foxborough, Bill's work was done. Sit back and watch the kid cook. He had a nice ride on that kid's back. Kind of like how Shula won all those Super Bowls with Marino, Tony Dungy with Peyton Manning. I think BB building some pretty damn good defenses may have helped a bit. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 29, 2024 8:31:29 GMT -5
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Post by costpet on Mar 29, 2024 8:34:42 GMT -5
BB was a defensive specialist. Even last year the defense was good. Brady led the offense, which was a perfect marriage. That’s why they won so often. Without Brady, they only had half a team. The offense might be better this year, but I worry the defense will go backwards without BB.
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 29, 2024 10:15:28 GMT -5
Do you think Tom Brady had something to do with it or was it all BB? I think if you put Peyton Manning with BB he wins as many super bowls as Tom. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 30, 2024 0:00:17 GMT -5
Fun fact of the day, our Owner Robert Kraft bought our old stadium in bankruptcy court in 1988, with a lease running to 2001. The next two owners after Sullivan would try and move the team to Jacksonville and then St. Louis. Kraft stopped both of them because he refused to break the lease and let them go. Threatening court action if they tried. Then buying the team in 1994 for a then all time record high amount.
Sullivan lost the stadium because of a bad investment in the Jackson 5 victory tour, had to use it as Collateral. Next owner Victor Kian, also filed for Bankruptcy. Then selling to James Orthwein, who then sold to Kraft.
BTW it was James Orthwein who hired Parcells not Robert Kraft.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 30, 2024 6:41:11 GMT -5
Bleacher Report actually had a solid trade idea. If the Pats don’t like the QB on the board at 3, trade back to 6 with the Giants (assuming they do) for a second this year (47) and a second next year.
Being at 6 still lets you still pick a blue chip top wide receiver or left tackle while picking up 2 seconds. I almost like this better than the Vikings trade idea where you’re getting 3 firsts but later.
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Post by cdj on Mar 30, 2024 9:03:36 GMT -5
Bleacher Report actually had a solid trade idea. If the Pats don’t like the QB on the board at 3, trade back to 6 with the Giants (assuming they do) for a second this year (47) and a second next year. Being at 6 still lets you still pick a blue chip top wide receiver or left tackle while picking up 2 seconds. I almost like this better than the Vikings trade idea where you’re getting 3 firsts but later. And if they like a guy like Penix then they can probably pretty easily trade back to to the end of the 1st to get him Edit: the other thing about Penix- our LT situation is iffy but that becomes far less of an issue with Onwenu now protecting his blind side instead of the LT |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 30, 2024 10:43:55 GMT -5
If you guys have time this QB deep dive is pretty good. Very good, but very long and I was very upset at the little time they spent on Nix, Penix and Rattler. They probably should have did a podcast for each tier. Everyone rates differently, they say can't take a QB in the first if you don't think they have upside to be a top 15 QB in NFL. Then rank Nix, Penix and Rattler as 2nd/third round guys, but basically talk about them as backups. Admitting they likely go higher, QB go half round earlier than ranking, QB premium. Shouldn't those guys be bottom 15 type starter to be ranked in 2nd round? Teams aren't using top 100 picks on guys they think are backups only types. Best part was then trying to give a comp for Daniels ceiling, a lesser Jalen Hurts or Rich Gannon. I will thank those guys for making me not seem crazy about Daniels, most other draft experts are going crazy. No creativity, doesn't throw over the middle, skinny, drops his eyes when pressured and takes off to run. With the he will need to change his running style, no more trying to prove how tough you are. If Kraft forces us to take a QB the GM doesn't want its time for him to go! |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Mar 30, 2024 11:19:24 GMT -5
Bleacher Report actually had a solid trade idea. If the Pats don’t like the QB on the board at 3, trade back to 6 with the Giants (assuming they do) for a second this year (47) and a second next year. Being at 6 still lets you still pick a blue chip top wide receiver or left tackle while picking up 2 seconds. I almost like this better than the Vikings trade idea where you’re getting 3 firsts but later. And if they like a guy like Penix then they can probably pretty easily trade back to to the end of the 1st to get him Edit: the other thing about Penix- our LT situation is iffy but that becomes far less of an issue with Onwenu now protecting his blind side instead of the LT Big Mike might be an option at LT, according to HC (22 minute mark): www.patriots.com/video/head-coach-jerod-mayo-3-25-we-re-trying-to-build-this-the-right-way |
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Mar 30, 2024 12:35:37 GMT -5
Yeah, hiring Bill turned out awfully. Do you think Tom Brady had something to do with it or was it all BB? I understand there is a chance PM1999 you may in fact be agreeing with what I'm about to state, but I feel compelled to say my spiel. You can't have one without the other, this debate will go on ad nauseum forever and makes NO sense at all. To many people in the world think you can go for this or you can go for that. That type of thinking is simplistic and child like, it doesn't nor should it be, in most cases one or the other. It can also be both or in some case neither. A lot of choices are not binary they way we are pigeon holed to think it has to be, it can and often is multi-faceted with deeper layers of understanding and nuances that take you beyond that simplistic mindset. |
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Post by cdj on Mar 30, 2024 14:28:10 GMT -5
Interesting, if he can pull it off the contract is a heist (and I’d be willing to renegotiate next offseason) |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Mar 30, 2024 15:22:47 GMT -5
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Mar 30, 2024 16:06:38 GMT -5
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Post by pedromartinez1999 on Mar 30, 2024 16:45:48 GMT -5
Do you think Tom Brady had something to do with it or was it all BB? I understand there is a chance PM1999 you may in fact be agreeing with what I'm about to state, but I feel compelled to say my spiel. You can't have one without the other, this debate will go on ad nauseum forever and makes NO sense at all. To many people in the world think you can go for this or you can go for that. That type of thinking is simplistic and child like, it doesn't nor should it be, in most cases one or the other. It can also be both or in some case neither. A lot of choices are not binary they way we are pigeon holed to think it has to be, it can and often is multi-faceted with deeper layers of understanding and nuances that take you beyond that simplistic mindset. Your just in denial and I'm not going in details to explain it to you that Brady has been more successful in three seasons with Tampa Bay then BB has had in 10 full years without Brady because you will not going comprehend it. I go by what I see and numbers not how I feel that means nothing. |
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