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Post by keninten on May 1, 2024 1:21:12 GMT -5
I was curious about some players that were discussed this past off season.
M.A.Taylor 0.5 WAR .583 OPS $4 mil Teoscar 1.0 WAR .792 OPS $23.5 mil Duvall 0.4 WAR .755 OPS $3 mil Soler 0.1 WAR .716 OPS $42 mil 3 years Bellinger 0.4 WAR .760 OPS $80 mil 3 years JD Martinez 4 Games $12 mil Kiermaier 0.0 WAR .474 OPS $10.5 mil Merrifield -0.1 WAR .547 OPS $8 mil Turner 0.8 WAR .924 OPS $13 mil
Can`t remember everyone but Turner looks like the only one who would have helped out. Mostly OFers but they look pretty good there. TON looks like the RHH they were looking for.
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Post by asm18 on May 1, 2024 6:35:21 GMT -5
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Post by ematz1423 on May 1, 2024 6:48:52 GMT -5
What is pretty crazy in my mind at this point is they Sox are 17-13 and the weak link so far has been the IF which going into the season I had figured the IF would be their strong suit. Sure would be nice if they could find a way to keep O'Neill around for a few more seasons past this one, he fits rather well with Duran and Abreu. So far Duran and Abreu are showing they are every day guys though so it might be tough justifying spending decent money on O'Neill to basically be a platoon mate with them since I doubt the plan next year will have Rafaela at SS. If they could find a way to move Yoshida and open up the DH to be more of a revolving door it could work really well though.
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 1, 2024 7:15:37 GMT -5
All things considered, my April grade for this team is B+ (grading on curves including injuries and the defense). The trend is up as the bats warm. All in all, I'm quite pleased.They are significantly exceeding my off season expectations.
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Post by incandenza on May 1, 2024 7:18:55 GMT -5
List of Red Sox pitchers whose ERA is better than the ZiPS 80th percentile projection:
Bello Whitlock Pivetta Crawford Houck Winckowski
Jansen Bernardino Kelly Booser Slaten Weissert Criswell Anderson
Pitchers whose ERA is worse than the ZiPS median projection:
Martin Rodriguez Campbell
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Post by greatscottcooper on May 1, 2024 7:25:07 GMT -5
If I remember correctly there was a certain poster on this board who effectively predicted the level of success the starting rotation is having.
With Bello, Crawford, and Houck in there it’s a rotation that’s mostly homegrown too.
Oh how the tables have spun
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Post by ematz1423 on May 1, 2024 7:25:24 GMT -5
I really scoffed at a lot of the optimism when Bailey was brought in since my original opinion was pitching coaches can have some impact on a staff but their impact generally isn't all that large of a factor. I feel like at this point I stand corrected, Bailey has pretty clearly had a large impact on the staff. I'm not going to bash Dave Bush like many on here have been doing but it certainly is night and day right now.
Whatever happens with Cora after this season I would consider it a must to retain Bailey whether that is a promotion to manager if it opens up or just keeping him as pitching coach, I'd give him a nice raise at this rate if I was them though.
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Post by briam on May 1, 2024 7:27:45 GMT -5
I don’t think I’ve ever been more shocked by a collective group’s performance than the Sox rotation. Would’ve never predicted this in my wildest dreams and yet they just keep on shoving. This team would have 20+ wins if the entire infield didn’t get hit by a bus.
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Post by trotman on May 1, 2024 7:32:40 GMT -5
Excited about seeing Cooper playing solid to exceptional 1B. He's a ball magnet. 2 out of three balls in play will be hit to him. Yes he is unfortunately. Moving forward lets refer to him as a vacuum in the field.
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Post by nomar on May 1, 2024 8:08:54 GMT -5
I really scoffed at a lot of the optimism when Bailey was brought in since my original opinion was pitching coaches can have some impact on a staff but their impact generally isn't all that large of a factor. I feel like at this point I stand corrected, Bailey has pretty clearly had a large impact on the staff. I'm not going to bash Dave Bush like many on here have been doing but it certainly is night and day right now. Whatever happens with Cora after this season I would consider it a must to retain Bailey whether that is a promotion to manager if it opens up or just keeping him as pitching coach, I'd give him a nice raise at this rate if I was them though. Bailey has been great but I’m sure Willard and Breslow have had a big impact too. Those 3 minds all working in unison will be a beautiful thing. I hope the org keep on ponying up when the former two inevitably get big money thrown at them.
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Post by gerry on May 1, 2024 8:30:46 GMT -5
Hopefully this group of pitching gurus Breslow is putting together remains an integral component of the long term pitching core we see developing before our eyes.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on May 1, 2024 8:51:57 GMT -5
I really scoffed at a lot of the optimism when Bailey was brought in since my original opinion was pitching coaches can have some impact on a staff but their impact generally isn't all that large of a factor. I feel like at this point I stand corrected, Bailey has pretty clearly had a large impact on the staff. I'm not going to bash Dave Bush like many on here have been doing but it certainly is night and day right now. Whatever happens with Cora after this season I would consider it a must to retain Bailey whether that is a promotion to manager if it opens up or just keeping him as pitching coach, I'd give him a nice raise at this rate if I was them though. Bailey has been great but I’m sure Willard and Breslow have had a big impact too. Those 3 minds all working in unison will be a beautiful thing. I hope the org keep on ponying up when the former two inevitably get big money thrown at them. I am sure that Henry & Company realize it is less expensive to retain Bailey, Willard, and Breslow than to spend $145 million on a Sale or $217 million on another David Price!
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Post by Smittyw on May 1, 2024 9:52:08 GMT -5
1. Hire Andrew Bailey. 2. Invest little in the rotation despite heavy expectations to do so. 3. Hit gold with every healthy starter (even depth guys like Criswell). 4. Boston is a free agent destination again as frontline pitchers line up to work with Bailey in 2025.
Breslow was playing 12D chess all along.
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Post by scottysmalls on May 1, 2024 9:54:58 GMT -5
While we're complimenting parts of the team that have gone well - they lead MLB in left field WAR by 33% over second place. Their left field (O'Neill, Duran, Abreu) is on pace for, collectively, a 9 WAR season.
As far as room for improvement goes - they have negative WAR at 2B, 3B, SS, CF and DH lol
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Post by GyIantosca on May 1, 2024 9:55:27 GMT -5
Well at least Breslow knows what it takes to make Bailey happy if it’s a promotion in the front office or manage the team . I want them to listen to him . Whoever teaches the same way. Finally time they settle down our pitching prospects . The biggest move. Imagine Breslow wasn’t even on there radar at the beginning. The team got panned . I liked the team I was worried about the starting pitching . I’m so happy can you believe our number 1 can be Houck.
One more thing very important we are not sunk with bloated contracts and players over 35 holding back some kids , just compete and grab the wildcard.
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Post by GyIantosca on May 1, 2024 10:00:50 GMT -5
I don’t think I’ve ever been more shocked by a collective group’s performance than the Sox rotation. Would’ve never predicted this in my wildest dreams and yet they just keep on shoving. This team would have 20+ wins if the entire infield didn’t get hit by a bus. Only kids , that don’t know any better can do this . It’s so awesome to see. Everything that’s wrong I believe we have options to try to fix. Whereas the other years we didn’t have .
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Post by dirtywaterinla on May 1, 2024 10:38:58 GMT -5
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Post by radiohix on May 1, 2024 10:55:34 GMT -5
Man if they just chose to protect Ryan Fernandez in the Rule 5 Draft, this pitching brain trust record would've been spotless...
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Post by redsoxfan2 on May 1, 2024 11:01:43 GMT -5
This team is starting to really give me 2013 vibes. The pitching is just far too ferocious for any team that it almost doesn't really matter how the offense does. Mix in with guys who are able to come up big in key spots like Tyler O'Neil that they should be a serious threat.
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Post by strike23 on May 1, 2024 11:16:03 GMT -5
Procrastinating at work so decided to pull together some numbers, caveat I've done all of this on my phone so may be off on some counts.
With story/rafaela starting at SS: 13-6 11 team errors .57/game would be middle of the league 11 unearned runs ~.6 per game
Hamilton/Reyes/Romy @ SS: 4-7 14 team errors 1.27/game significantly worse than our already blended worst in the league. 16 unearned runs ~1.5 per game
Regarding record I know that's not a perfectly fair comp(update -- the strength of schedule is actually lower for the backup sample) because we got the Os and Guardians but the angels at least sort of balance that out. I forgot to look at unearned runs but I'll edit that in when I have time. I like this team, I don't like Hamilton.
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Post by asm18 on May 1, 2024 11:31:19 GMT -5
What's the most acquisitions the Red Sox have ever made before like May 15
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Post by brendan98 on May 1, 2024 11:32:27 GMT -5
Procrastinating at work so decided to pull together some numbers, caveat I've done all of this on my phone so may be off on some counts. With story/rafaela starting at SS: 13-6 11 team errors .57/game would be middle of the league Hamilton/Reyes/Romy @ SS: 4-7 14 team errors 1.27/game significantly worse than our already blended worst in the league. Regarding record I know that's not a perfectly fair comp because we got the Os and Guardians but the angels at least sort of balance that out. I forgot to look at unearned runs but I'll edit that in when I have time. I like this team, I don't like Hamilton. That win/loss record is about what I'd expect. Of course winning has something to do with this for sure, but this team has been infuriating and almost unwatchable without Story/Rafaela at SS, I coached HS baseball for 11 years and for the 2 weeks we were running Hamilton/Reyes/Romy out to SS I felt like I was watching bad HS baseball (I say bad HS baseball, because sometimes High Schoolers play cleaner baseball than how the Sox were there for a while).
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Post by ematz1423 on May 1, 2024 11:35:04 GMT -5
A Smith/Cooper platoon until Casas gets back might work out rather decently. Smith isn't great by any means but vs righties in 2023 he did have a 102 wRC+. Combine that with Cooper's 145 wRC+ vs lefties in 2023 and that could make for about as good of a 1st base platoon as we can hope for in the time being.
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Post by vokuhila on May 1, 2024 11:36:31 GMT -5
Is this the final nail in Bobby's coffin?
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Post by scottysmalls on May 1, 2024 11:36:44 GMT -5
I think Hamilton gets too much hate because some of his miscues came in big moments. He didn’t look that far behind Rafaela to me (and every defensive metric agrees).
To be clear I think Rafaela is better right now and long term, I’m just saying Hamilton flashed enough to me that I can buy he could eventually be an average defensive short stop.
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