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5/15 Gameday Thread: Whitlock Rehabs, AAA & AA In The A.M.
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Post by iakovos11 on May 15, 2024 7:55:13 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 15, 2024 11:29:41 GMT -5
Bastardo: 5IP 3H 1ER 1BB 8K (70 pitches, 49 strikes, 15 whiffs) - struck out Spencer Jones three times.
CJ Liu activated and pitching in relief.
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Post by strike23 on May 15, 2024 11:36:17 GMT -5
Bastardo: 5IP 3H 1ER 1BB 8K (70 pitches, 49 strikes, 15 whiffs) - struck out Spencer Jones three times. CJ Liu activated and pitching in relief. Beat me to it, only run he gave up was a HR to a rehabbing major league player (Peraza but still) too, is he still profiling as a MIRP or does he have a legit shot at the rotation?
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Post by ematz1423 on May 15, 2024 11:48:38 GMT -5
Obviously being a Sox fan and Yankee hater I'm not going to claim to not be bias but what really is the hype with Jones? 23 YO in AA wRC+ of 99 so far this year, as a 22 year old in A+ 114 wRC+. Not to mention a K% hovering around 30% in his minor league time to boot. That doesn't really scream top prospect to me?
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Post by ogshortstufff on May 15, 2024 11:54:41 GMT -5
Is Ingrassia going as an opener or is Salem trying him as a real starter?
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Post by James Dunne on May 15, 2024 11:56:17 GMT -5
Shifting to a starting role. Will be interesting to see how long he goes.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 15, 2024 12:14:02 GMT -5
Shifting to a starting role. Will be interesting to see how long he goes. Fwiw he might be saying this from me but I was probably overstating that I'd learned he was getting a start. We'll see.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on May 15, 2024 12:24:04 GMT -5
Whitlock looks good: 4 2/3 innings 2 hits 0 runs 1 walk 5 SO
I wonder if there is thoughts of a 6 man rotation or if Criswell goes to the pen. He has been too good to send down!
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Post by ramireja on May 15, 2024 12:29:09 GMT -5
Liu with 3 no-hit innings in relief: 3IP 0H 0ER 1BB 5K
Tough loss for the Sea Dogs with the pitching performances they got from Bastardo and Liu
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 15, 2024 12:36:55 GMT -5
Whitlock looks good: 4 2/3 innings 2 hits 0 runs 1 walk 5 SO I wonder if there is thoughts of a 6 man rotation or if Criswell goes to the pen. He has been too good to send down! Extremely curious what happens when he's activated for, presumably, his next start. Criswell is an MLB arm clearly, but he is probably more valuable stretched out in AAA than in the MLB bullpen.
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Post by cdj on May 15, 2024 12:44:09 GMT -5
Obviously being a Sox fan and Yankee hater I'm not going to claim to not be bias but what really is the hype with Jones? 23 YO in AA wRC+ of 99 so far this year, as a 22 year old in A+ 114 wRC+. Not to mention a K% hovering around 30% in his minor league time to boot. That doesn't really scream top prospect to me? He’s tall
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Post by cdj on May 15, 2024 12:48:00 GMT -5
Zeferjahn didn’t throw strikes today but he still battled through and got the scoreless inning (same with Guerrero)
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Post by gregblossersbelly on May 15, 2024 12:59:42 GMT -5
Obviously being a Sox fan and Yankee hater I'm not going to claim to not be bias but what really is the hype with Jones? 23 YO in AA wRC+ of 99 so far this year, as a 22 year old in A+ 114 wRC+. Not to mention a K% hovering around 30% in his minor league time to boot. That doesn't really scream top prospect to me? He’s tall He’s got that going for him. #caddyshack
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Post by incandenza on May 15, 2024 13:07:22 GMT -5
Obviously being a Sox fan and Yankee hater I'm not going to claim to not be bias but what really is the hype with Jones? 23 YO in AA wRC+ of 99 so far this year, as a 22 year old in A+ 114 wRC+. Not to mention a K% hovering around 30% in his minor league time to boot. That doesn't really scream top prospect to me? He’s tall And to quote the fangraphs write-up: "His 2023 whiff rates were only about one standard deviation worse than what’s typical of a big league center fielder."
When a high-A prospect is whiffing at a rate "only one standard deviation worse" than an average major leaguer at a weak offensive position, well, what more do you need to know - that's a #15 overall prospect right there.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on May 15, 2024 13:27:38 GMT -5
Maybe it's just because as a non East Coaster I don't hate the Yankees as much as most of y'all do, but this board's collective obsession with Jones has always been weird to me. I think he's overrated for sure, but the appeal is also pretty obvious - when he hits ball, ball go fast and far. If you want to cherrypick stuff about 2023 whiff rates and standard deviations or whatever, more power to you, but pretending like there's not quite a lot to dream on with his package of tools is pretty intellectually dishonest. And again I don't think he should be the 15th overall prospect, but I also don't think the reason these outlets are ranking him that highly is because he's a Yankee or anything, that's just dumb tin foil hat stuff.
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Post by capesox on May 15, 2024 14:27:40 GMT -5
Mayer with 2 more hits today. Good to see the big 3 come alive the last week, hoping they can stay hot as the weather gets better in Maine.
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Post by bosoxnation on May 15, 2024 14:31:27 GMT -5
Mayer with 2 more hits today. Good to see the big 3 come alive the last week, hoping they can stay hot as the weather gets better in Maine. Is it too soon to bring Mayer up to AAA?
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Post by James Dunne on May 15, 2024 14:32:12 GMT -5
Sea Dogs only had five men on base all day, and three of them were Mayer (two singles and a walk). .368/.442/.605 with six doubles, five walks, and three strikeouts in his last ten games.
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Post by ematz1423 on May 15, 2024 14:47:45 GMT -5
Sea Dogs only had five men on base all day, and three of them were Mayer (two singles and a walk). .368/.442/.605 with six doubles, five walks, and three strikeouts in his last ten games. That slash line is sexy but I'm more happy to see just 3 Ks in the last 10 games than anything. Love seeing him healthy and playing well so far this year.
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Post by cdj on May 15, 2024 14:56:16 GMT -5
Maybe it's just because as a non East Coaster I don't hate the Yankees as much as most of y'all do, but this board's collective obsession with Jones has always been weird to me. I think he's overrated for sure, but the appeal is also pretty obvious - when he hits ball, ball go fast and far. If you want to cherrypick stuff about 2023 whiff rates and standard deviations or whatever, more power to you, but pretending like there's not quite a lot to dream on with his package of tools is pretty intellectually dishonest. And again I don't think he should be the 15th overall prospect, but I also don't think the reason these outlets are ranking him that highly is because he's a Yankee or anything, that's just dumb tin foil hat stuff. I have no problem with him being 80 where he belongs!
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Post by julyanmorley on May 15, 2024 15:07:26 GMT -5
Nothing is going to make me stop talking smack about Spencer Jones, the 108th youngest player in the Eastern League with a strikeout rate nearly as high as his slugging average.
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Post by 1toolplayer on May 15, 2024 15:11:03 GMT -5
Obviously being a Sox fan and Yankee hater I'm not going to claim to not be bias but what really is the hype with Jones? 23 YO in AA wRC+ of 99 so far this year, as a 22 year old in A+ 114 wRC+. Not to mention a K% hovering around 30% in his minor league time to boot. That doesn't really scream top prospect to me? He def got the Yankee bump heading into the year, but he had a torrid Spring Training. They said he was the fastest Yankee in camp behind Volpe and hit a 470ft HR, so the tools popped enough in camp to make everyone forget about his 30% K rate as a 22 yr old in High A. Mildly interesting to me that prob there 3 hottest names coming into the year (which really propelled their high system ranking IMO) him, Arias, and Hampton (he hasn't pitched) have struggled out of the gate. All that being said, I actually am fearful of Jones becoming a big lefty bat for them, even if it takes two more years, bc the Judge parallels are scary
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Post by cdj on May 15, 2024 15:23:12 GMT -5
Obviously being a Sox fan and Yankee hater I'm not going to claim to not be bias but what really is the hype with Jones? 23 YO in AA wRC+ of 99 so far this year, as a 22 year old in A+ 114 wRC+. Not to mention a K% hovering around 30% in his minor league time to boot. That doesn't really scream top prospect to me? He def got the Yankee bump heading into the year, but he had a torrid Spring Training. They said he was the fastest Yankee in camp behind Volpe and hit a 470ft HR, so the tools popped enough in camp to make everyone forget about his 30% K rate as a 22 yr old in High A. Mildly interesting to me that prob there 3 hottest names coming into the year (which really propelled their high system ranking IMO) him, Arias, and Hampton (he hasn't pitched) have struggled out of the gate. All that being said, I actually am fearful of Jones becoming a big lefty bat for them, even if it takes two more years, bc the Judge parallels are scary Yeah the tools are super loud and he has that short porch. Just gotta hope the hit tool never comes around
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on May 15, 2024 15:56:59 GMT -5
Mayer with 2 more hits today. Good to see the big 3 come alive the last week, hoping they can stay hot as the weather gets better in Maine. Is it too soon to bring Mayer up to AAA? Yes.
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Post by johnsilver52 on May 15, 2024 17:21:38 GMT -5
Whitlock looks good: 4 2/3 innings 2 hits 0 runs 1 walk 5 SO I wonder if there is thoughts of a 6 man rotation or if Criswell goes to the pen. He has been too good to send down! Always liked the idea of a long guy myself, especially now that we are in the day of starters going only 5-6 innings. Have 1 reliever for 40-50 pitches, then he gets.. Say 3 days off. 1 day shorter than as a starter and probably can go 3 innings with that pitch count, effective innings at that. Still 2 on 26 man before him by my count: 1) Anderson 2) booser Criswell is way to valuable to waste at AAA with the other useful long man lanquishing there as it is.
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