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Post by rickasadoorian on Jul 3, 2024 15:54:17 GMT -5
I think we're going to get a ton of promotions in the next 2-3 weeks, as there's a 2-day break this Sunday/Monday, the ASB the following Monday through Thursday, and then the FCL finishes up at the end of the month. Some potential guys to move up below, none of which is based on inside information. Also, with the DRL currently at 163, they're going to need to cut roughly 10 guys to add the new draftees. I don't like to speculate, and won't, about releases, but I'd guess the lion's share of that is going to come from AAA and the complex - think the guys who usually get cut over the offseason. I don't necessarily think it'll be all of them, but I think it'll be more that we all think is reasonable. AA -> AAA Kyle Teel, Marcelo Mayer, Roman Anthony (yup, all 3) Hunter Dobbins Wyatt Olds? A+ -> AA Cutter Coffey Allan Castro Ronald Rosario? Hayden Mullins Connelly Early Reidis Sena maybe Jeremy Wu-Yelland do they push Dalton Rogers just to make room? A -> A+ Elmer Rodriguez Noah Dean Jojo Ingrassia Max Carlson some of the old Conor Steinbaugh, Michael Sansone, Trennor O'Donnell, Danny Kirwin group Marvin Alcantara (and/or other names that surprise us because they literally need to in order to make room) Brooks Brannon and/or Daniel McElveny Rk -> A Franklin Arias Andruw Musett maybe Kleyber Salazar Juan Valera Yeferson Vargas Coffey is surprising, would think they’d want to let him cook in A+ for a while longer just to build on the recent improvements. He's also really young. He hasn't faced any pitchers younger than him in his pro career. What is really crazy is Roman Anthony is only 8 days older than Coffey.
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Post by nonothing on Jul 4, 2024 6:43:20 GMT -5
Coffey is surprising, would think they’d want to let him cook in A+ for a while longer just to build on the recent improvements. He's also really young. He hasn't faced any pitchers younger than him in his pro career. What is really crazy is Roman Anthony is only 8 days older than Coffey. I think Chris' list suggests they may want to give Coffey the playing time Mayer is vacating in AA (even if all the innings aren't at SS), and if they had already seen what they needed to defensively, and maybe the metrics they are seeing are positive, then they feel it is time to move him up. If Coffey has found a new gear offensively, and he can sustain it, he will move up lists quickly and be a big piece for the Sox -- either for the team or in trade. They need to move Arias up, so they need to push guys up at SS. See his note on Alcantara. Re: Anthony, Coffey was also their real 2nd round pick (2nd pick of 2nd round, so nearly a round 1 slot). Anthony was drafted after the entire regular 2nd round as a comp pick. What Coffey is showing plus pedigree suggests it may be real, and SP report is also informative on this. He is seen as a legit prospect -- not just a late rounder who happened into some entirely incredible luck. Just sometimes the adjustment to pro ball isn't immediate. Hopefully the conversation about Zanetello next year is something similar because he finds himself a bit more as he settles in.
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Post by kwodes on Jul 7, 2024 10:19:47 GMT -5
Make of this what you will...
Bradford interviewed Brian Abraham and asked him, "will Marcelo Mayer be promoted TODAY?" Abraham responded with, "no, not today, but the minor league schedule is a little weird and they have Sunday and Monday off." (I'm paraphrasing because I'm going off memory, but this was pretty much the exact quote)
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Post by markm7 on Jul 7, 2024 12:14:31 GMT -5
Make of this what you will... Bradford interviewed Brian Abraham and asked him, "will Marcelo Mayer be promoted TODAY?" Abraham responded with, "no, not today, but the minor league schedule is a little weird and they have Sunday and Monday off." (I'm paraphrasing because I'm going off memory, but this was pretty much the exact quote) My guess they move up after futures game
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 14, 2024 17:28:33 GMT -5
As I reported on Twitter earlier today, Big 3 is going back to Portland for now post-Futures Game, and the ASB promotions are going to be more pitching-focused. My guess is that means the hitter promotions won't happen, for the most part, until the FCL is over or closer to over. After thinking it through, I kind of realized that while we see a 4-day opportunity to move guys around, for the players, this is their one midseason break to see family, go home for a couple days, etc., so asking guys to give that up to move is, while not an incredible burden, something they might be taking into account to some degree and why having starting pitchers be the ones to move around makes a bit more sense.
Here's what I'm thinking over the next few weeks. Note that I landed on this after taking other roster considerations into account, such as that they'll probably need to cut at least 15 players to make room for draftees on the domestic reserve list, actually having to field teams at each level, etc. I think we're going to go back to seeing more use of the dev list in, say, the AAA and even AA bullpens to stash guys with health. I also think there are demotions of certain players on the table in order to make the numbers work. With the Cespedes injury, I'm less bullish on the need for an infield chain promotion to make room for Arias in Salem. They're already -2 and if Brannon is promoted, that'll free up DH a bunch for use by infielders. AA -> AAA Mayer Teel Anthony
Dobbins Liu (I think they're going to start stashing a couple RP on Dev if everyone is healthy)
A+ -> AA Mullins, Sandlin, Early
Allan Castro Simas, who I think goes down this week to make room for the big 3, then comes back up unless they want to push Cutter Coffey.
A -> A+ Dean, Elmer, Jojo Carlson Sansone
Brannon
Rk -> A Arias Riemer Musett
4-8 of the below depending on corresponding moves Valera Salcedo Bates Vargas SVDS W. Rodriguez Batista? Lee?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 22, 2024 9:08:48 GMT -5
In addition to David Sandlin to Portland, looks like Noah Dean is heading to Greenville.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 22, 2024 9:22:08 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 22, 2024 9:39:21 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 22, 2024 10:04:37 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 22, 2024 10:43:06 GMT -5
Clearer version
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Post by bentossaurus on Jul 22, 2024 14:54:44 GMT -5
Hayden Mullins is the only pitcher left on my promotion watch list for now. Paez is likely staying put no matter how well he pitches.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 22, 2024 15:53:43 GMT -5
Hayden Mullins is the only pitcher left on my promotion watch list for now. Paez is likely staying put no matter how well he pitches. My guess is he waits for space when the big 3 move up. There's probably another wave coming when the FCL ends that will coincide with some releases to make room on the DRL for draftees. This set was kind of made necessary because the Portland rotation has 3 actual starters in it (one, in Wikelman, who can't be trusted to go 5 right now), plus Webb. Fwiw, I was told there might be others. Not clear if that meant this round or after the FCL ends.
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 22, 2024 23:45:02 GMT -5
Helcris Olivarez apparently a roster crunch casualty. 50 walks in 36 innings make it pretty tough.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 23, 2024 10:29:30 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 23, 2024 12:38:11 GMT -5
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Post by bentossaurus on Jul 23, 2024 13:19:39 GMT -5
Something that just struck me, in terms of promotions other than making it to the Show, FCL to A or DSL to stateside must be the most life-impacting promotions. For these young men must be so cool to know they made it to a full season “proper” affiliate.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 23, 2024 15:58:17 GMT -5
I put this on Twitter, but at this point, my guess is any other moves will wait for the trade deadline, save probably for Riemer getting activated once the FCL ends. That way they know what spots are opened by trades, which need to be opened by releases, etc. My guess is Mullins and, once healthy, Ingrassia move up, along with a trickle of guys out of the FCL. Dobbins might earn a bump too.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 23, 2024 16:37:30 GMT -5
A bit surprised on Olds promo - is he taking his wildness?
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Post by rickasadoorian on Jul 23, 2024 16:49:00 GMT -5
A bit surprised on Olds promo - is he taking his wildness? He surpassed 100 innings at Portland his last time out. But kind of. Since May, 43.0 ip, 19bb/56k. In April, 10.2. ip, 11bb/18k.
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Post by ryanw on Aug 4, 2024 17:50:53 GMT -5
Does Breslow have any clue what he’s doing because the fact Mayer and Teel hadn’t been promoted to Triple A 6 weeks ago was head scratching by now it’s just plain embarrassing and now it seems Anthony is also ready for a promotion. What is going on over there is he this inept or is this on the farm director? At some point something has to happen right they can’t just waste them away in AA all year. It was a widely held belief they’d be competing for jobs next spring now I’m not sure they’ll even be considered in the first half of next year
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Aug 4, 2024 17:55:50 GMT -5
Does Breslow have any clue what he’s doing because the fact Mayer and Teel hadn’t been promoted to Triple A 6 weeks ago was head scratching by now it’s just plain embarrassing and now it seems Anthony is also ready for a promotion. What is going on over there is he this inept or is this on the farm director? At some point something has to happen right they can’t just waste them away in AA all year. It was a widely held belief they’d be competing for jobs next spring now I’m not sure they’ll even be considered in the first half of next year Obviously, Breslow is a double naught spy. He’s on Steinbrenner’s payroll sent to sabotage the Sawx😀
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Aug 4, 2024 18:00:09 GMT -5
Does Breslow have any clue what he’s doing because the fact Mayer and Teel hadn’t been promoted to Triple A 6 weeks ago was head scratching by now it’s just plain embarrassing and now it seems Anthony is also ready for a promotion. What is going on over there is he this inept or is this on the farm director? At some point something has to happen right they can’t just waste them away in AA all year. It was a widely held belief they’d be competing for jobs next spring now I’m not sure they’ll even be considered in the first half of next year there’s a lot about this post you should probably be embarrassed about but the most objectively incorrect thing here is that it was absolutely not a widely held belief that they’d be competing for jobs next spring.
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Post by ryanw on Aug 4, 2024 18:02:42 GMT -5
Does Breslow have any clue what he’s doing because the fact Mayer and Teel hadn’t been promoted to Triple A 6 weeks ago was head scratching by now it’s just plain embarrassing and now it seems Anthony is also ready for a promotion. What is going on over there is he this inept or is this on the farm director? At some point something has to happen right they can’t just waste them away in AA all year. It was a widely held belief they’d be competing for jobs next spring now I’m not sure they’ll even be considered in the first half of next year there’s a lot about this post you should probably be embarrassed about but the most objectively incorrect thing here is that it was absolutely not a widely held belief that they’d be competing for jobs next spring. When a top 50 prospect starts a season at Double A he should be competing for a job the following spring if he’s worth his salt
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Aug 4, 2024 18:29:53 GMT -5
there’s a lot about this post you should probably be embarrassed about but the most objectively incorrect thing here is that it was absolutely not a widely held belief that they’d be competing for jobs next spring. When a top 50 prospect starts a season at Double A he should be competing for a job the following spring if he’s worth his salt No front office person with a brain is making that a hard and fast rule. That’s also you walking back your original take but I digress.
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Post by nonothing on Aug 4, 2024 19:07:03 GMT -5
When a top 50 prospect starts a season at Double A he should be competing for a job the following spring if he’s worth his salt No front office person with a brain is making that a hard and fast rule. That’s also you walking back your original take but I digress. Ryan - Do you know Mayer is hurt? Are you hoping they play him in AAA while hurt so he can hit your timetable?
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