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Post by nonothing on May 25, 2024 21:42:26 GMT -5
Starting the bigger pitching promotions this year this week with Penrod and Perales.
Who else is expected this weekend or within the next month?
Bastardo? Early and/or Encarnacion (not rated on here yet yet, but certainly coming)? Rodriguez-Cruz, Ingrassia and/or Wehunt?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 25, 2024 22:33:13 GMT -5
Starting the bigger pitching promotions this year this week with Penrod and Perales. Who else is expected this weekend or within the next month? Bastardo? Early and/or Encarnacion (not rated on here yet yet, but certainly coming)? Rodriguez-Cruz, Ingrassia and/or Wehunt? Ha. Almost started this thread earlier. I am curious how the change in the complex league schedule is going to affect this, as will the 165-man domestic reserve list. When the FCL season ends, I'm sure they're going to send guys like Cespedes, Arias, Musett and others to Salem. Meanwhile, guys they sign from the draft will count towards the DRL 15 days after they sign, meaning they'll need to release guys to make room. I think you're going to potentially see, at that point, a massive chain promotion and release of guys who are either depth types or the sort that would've typically been let go over the offseason. That might be when we see a lot of promotions. There will certainly be some in the meantime though. A lot might depend on when they decide they don't want to, say, keep giving Mark Contreras types every day PT in Worcester, making room at each level for a chain promotion, etc. |
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Post by nonothing on May 26, 2024 9:09:37 GMT -5
Starting the bigger pitching promotions this year this week with Penrod and Perales. Who else is expected this weekend or within the next month? Bastardo? Early and/or Encarnacion (not rated on here yet yet, but certainly coming)? Rodriguez-Cruz, Ingrassia and/or Wehunt? Ha. Almost started this thread earlier. I am curious how the change in the complex league schedule is going to affect this, as will the 165-man domestic reserve list. When the FCL season ends, I'm sure they're going to send guys like Cespedes, Arias, Musett and others to Salem. Meanwhile, guys they sign from the draft will count towards the DRL 15 days after they sign, meaning they'll need to release guys to make room. I think you're going to potentially see, at that point, a massive chain promotion and release of guys who are either depth types or the sort that would've typically been let go over the offseason. That might be when we see a lot of promotions. There will certainly be some in the meantime though. A lot might depend on when they decide they don't want to, say, keep giving Mark Contreras types every day PT in Worcester, making room at each level for a chain promotion, etc. To your point, Alexander, Gutierrez, Romano and Van Belle would all seem to be guys who could give way to Penrod (rotation), Bastardo (rotation) and Liu (bullpen) -- with Winck ultimately going back into the pen when Bastardo hits AAA. I think they will get Bastardo moving sooner than later in the year. His peripherals are better than ERA and the Rule 5 decision will be real for him this offseason. I would think they need to move Penrod, Bastardo and Liu to get the Greenville trio of Perales, Encarnacion (also Rule 5 decision) and Early to Portland. And I think the chain is then Rodriguez-Cruz, Ingrassia and Wehunt from Salem to the rotation Greenville. There are a lot of relievers making the case for jumps, but I think these are the most clear other than what needs to happen later if Sandlin and Monegro get healthy and need to move. But definitely the question will be how long do they wait to release the org guys in AAA. The first move(s) should come this weekend with Penrod/Perales starting the chain, and I winder who gets the nod from Salem. I figured Rodriguez-Cruz, but maybe his weekend wasn't what they would want to see, and a college guy goes first. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 26, 2024 11:49:39 GMT -5
Well don't forget that Monegro is probably taking the Perales spot in Greenville. He's getting a start tomorrow in the FCL and if everything goes well I'm sure his next start is for the Drive.
Gutierrez is gone for the Penrod spot. Worcester will need to make room for Kelly.
DRL at 162. Kelly option will make it 163 again. Wonder if Campbell counter will just be releasing Keller.
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Post by basbal24 on May 27, 2024 11:27:16 GMT -5
according to Milb central inf Tyler Miller promoted to Portland
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Post by costpet on May 27, 2024 12:56:17 GMT -5
Cespedes probably to Salem in June.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 27, 2024 13:03:53 GMT -5
Cespedes probably to Salem in June. The idea of ending the FCL at the end of July is that there will be a bunch of guys who move up to Salem. If they're not already up by that point, Cespedes, Arias, Musett, and others (Salazar, some pitchers, etc) will definitely move then. I could see Cespedes going up before then but keep in mind he's only played 5 games in the field so far, and probably wasn't playing any defense prior to getting into games in the FCL. Given his late start I could see them going easy on him. But we'll see. |
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Post by nonothing on May 27, 2024 13:12:37 GMT -5
Cespedes probably to Salem in June. The idea of ending the FCL at the end of July is that there will be a bunch of guys who move up to Salem. If they're not already up by that point, Cespedes, Arias, Musett, and others (Salazar, some pitchers, etc) will definitely move then. I could see Cespedes going up before then but keep in mind he's only played 5 games in the field so far, and probably wasn't playing any defense prior to getting into games in the FCL. Given his late start I could see them going easy on him. But we'll see. Would love to learn more about Ovis Portes. He seems to be set for the spot Monegro vacates when he goes back to Greenville, but Portes also does not seem to be pitching at the right level in the FCL. Just looking at the box scores, but the numbers suggest wrong level -- and he's 19, so would seem somebody likely to move when there is room in Salem. |
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Post by Addam603 on May 27, 2024 14:19:56 GMT -5
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Post by stevedillard on May 27, 2024 18:21:32 GMT -5
I was just looking at the SS progression through the system, where its pretty stacked. So even if one guy is doing well enough for a promotion, you almost need the guy ahead of him also to be ready to move. That said, once Mayer moves up in later June/early July, that creates a hole at Portland for Paulino to fill but also move Kristian Campbell up. Romero can stay at Greenville for the full year, and Zanatello stays in Salem all year. That means Cespedes will have to move around if promoted later in July.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on May 27, 2024 18:51:21 GMT -5
At some point soon Lugo has to move, doesn't he? He looks as though he's figured out AA.
He can move around (LF, 3B) and work on his versatility, which is probably going to be his calling card if he ever reaches the Majors.
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Post by sarasoxer on May 27, 2024 19:09:15 GMT -5
At some point soon Lugo has to move, doesn't he? He looks as though he's figured out AA. He can move around (LF, 3B) and work on his versatility, which is probably going to be his calling card if he ever reaches the Majors. I'm with you Buddy. Rafaela, Lugo and Bleis were the most obviously stand out GCL/FCL players I have seen in person. Once Bleis adapts, watch out. He is so fast, fluid running... |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 29, 2024 15:48:03 GMT -5
Paez and Jhosty Garcia to Greenville
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Post by nonothing on Jun 3, 2024 1:15:15 GMT -5
Well, the MI injuries, Valdez recall + Westbrook selection started some movement (though may have been planned anyway). I saw K Campbell to AA and M Lugo to AAA (likely planned with Jhosty going to A+ last week), but also pitching move with Wehunt to A+. Were there more? Ty!
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 5, 2024 15:18:43 GMT -5
Very interesting to see the WooSox position roster looking much more home grown - only Guthrie, Alvarez, Kolozsvary, Gaspar and Rosier are additions. Not quite so with the pitchers - but I like this better.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 6, 2024 11:49:47 GMT -5
Well, the MI injuries, Valdez recall + Westbrook selection started some movement (though may have been planned anyway). I saw K Campbell to AA and M Lugo to AAA (likely planned with Jhosty going to A+ last week), but also pitching move with Wehunt to A+. Were there more? Ty! Not being snarky, but you can always check that at www.soxprospects.com/transactions.htmPortes to Salem was the other. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 10, 2024 12:18:47 GMT -5
Bleis promoted to Greenville, per Speier.
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Post by radiohix on Jun 10, 2024 14:11:44 GMT -5
Bleis promoted to Greenville, per Speier. Well deserved. He showed progress in all facets of his offense, time to meet that Fluor field Monsta. |
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Post by ephus on Jun 10, 2024 14:54:55 GMT -5
Bleis promoted to Greenville, per Speier. Lord, Bleis this house. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 13, 2024 14:47:05 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 13, 2024 15:13:22 GMT -5
It would not surprise me if this were temporary. Portland has 3 healthy active starters plus Coffey on the dev list.
Not to say that it DEFINITELY is, but there's a level of need such that they may have just grabbed someone given that Greenville has 7 starters.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 3, 2024 14:34:03 GMT -5
I think we're going to get a ton of promotions in the next 2-3 weeks, as there's a 2-day break this Sunday/Monday, the ASB the following Monday through Thursday, and then the FCL finishes up at the end of the month. Some potential guys to move up below, none of which is based on inside information. Also, with the DRL currently at 163, they're going to need to cut roughly 10 guys to add the new draftees. I don't like to speculate, and won't, about releases, but I'd guess the lion's share of that is going to come from AAA and the complex - think the guys who usually get cut over the offseason.
I don't necessarily think it'll be all of them, but I think it'll be more that we all think is reasonable.
AA -> AAA
Kyle Teel, Marcelo Mayer, Roman Anthony (yup, all 3)
Hunter Dobbins
Wyatt Olds?
A+ -> AA
Cutter Coffey
Allan Castro
Ronald Rosario?
Hayden Mullins
Connelly Early
Reidis Sena
maybe Jeremy Wu-Yelland
do they push Dalton Rogers just to make room?
A -> A+
Elmer Rodriguez
Noah Dean
Jojo Ingrassia
Max Carlson
some of the old Conor Steinbaugh, Michael Sansone, Trennor O'Donnell, Danny Kirwin group
Marvin Alcantara (and/or other names that surprise us because they literally need to in order to make room)
Brooks Brannon and/or Daniel McElveny
Rk -> A
Franklin Arias
Andruw Musett
maybe Kleyber Salazar
Juan Valera
Yeferson Vargas
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 3, 2024 14:40:56 GMT -5
I think we're going to get a ton of promotions in the next 2-3 weeks, as there's a 2-day break this Sunday/Monday, the ASB the following Monday through Thursday, and then the FCL finishes up at the end of the month. Some potential guys to move up below, none of which is based on inside information. Also, with the DRL currently at 163, they're going to need to cut roughly 10 guys to add the new draftees. I don't like to speculate, and won't, about releases, but I'd guess the lion's share of that is going to come from AAA and the complex - think the guys who usually get cut over the offseason. I don't necessarily think it'll be all of them, but I think it'll be more that we all think is reasonable. AA -> AAA Kyle Teel, Marcelo Mayer, Roman Anthony (yup, all 3) Hunter Dobbins Wyatt Olds? A+ -> AA Cutter Coffey Allan Castro Ronald Rosario? Hayden Mullins Connelly Early Reidis Sena maybe Jeremy Wu-Yelland do they push Dalton Rogers just to make room? A -> A+ Elmer Rodriguez Noah Dean Jojo Ingrassia Max Carlson some of the old Conor Steinbaugh, Michael Sansone, Trennor O'Donnell, Danny Kirwin group Marvin Alcantara (and/or other names that surprise us because they literally need to in order to make room) Brooks Brannon and/or Daniel McElveny Rk -> A Franklin Arias Andruw Musett maybe Kleyber Salazar Juan Valera Yeferson Vargas Coffey is surprising, would think they’d want to let him cook in A+ for a while longer just to build on the recent improvements. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 3, 2024 15:18:52 GMT -5
I'm presuming they just need to make room to move everyone up. I think there will be a number of "they're promoting that guy?" moves like there were last year.
Consider that Greenville is already playing Romero, Coffey, Ravelo, and Liendo regularly. Salem is playing Zanetello, Anderson, Alcantara, will be playing Cespedes when he heals up, and probably is adding Arias. Meanwhile, if Mayer is promoted, Portland has just Paulino and Campbell in the middle infield, with Jordan getting starts at 3B. I think moving one guy up from each level is basically necessary to relieve the playing time pressure.
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Post by rickasadoorian on Jul 3, 2024 15:48:24 GMT -5
I think we're going to get a ton of promotions in the next 2-3 weeks, as there's a 2-day break this Sunday/Monday, the ASB the following Monday through Thursday, and then the FCL finishes up at the end of the month. Some potential guys to move up below, none of which is based on inside information. Also, with the DRL currently at 163, they're going to need to cut roughly 10 guys to add the new draftees. I don't like to speculate, and won't, about releases, but I'd guess the lion's share of that is going to come from AAA and the complex - think the guys who usually get cut over the offseason. I don't necessarily think it'll be all of them, but I think it'll be more that we all think is reasonable. AA -> AAA Kyle Teel, Marcelo Mayer, Roman Anthony (yup, all 3) Hunter Dobbins Wyatt Olds? A+ -> AA Cutter Coffey Allan Castro Ronald Rosario? Hayden Mullins Connelly Early Reidis Sena maybe Jeremy Wu-Yelland do they push Dalton Rogers just to make room? A -> A+ Elmer Rodriguez Noah Dean Jojo Ingrassia Max Carlson some of the old Conor Steinbaugh, Michael Sansone, Trennor O'Donnell, Danny Kirwin group Marvin Alcantara (and/or other names that surprise us because they literally need to in order to make room) Brooks Brannon and/or Daniel McElveny Rk -> A Franklin Arias Andruw Musett maybe Kleyber Salazar Juan Valera Yeferson Vargas Do you think there's any chance Garcia gets promoted again? Even if it's only like 8 PA? I'm inclined to say no because I know it rarely ever happens and he has to cool off at some point. Plus there isn't much incentive to "rush him." OTOH, if he keeps raking the way he has...it at least has to be considered. There isn't exactly a logjam in the OF at Portland either,, especially with Anthony in AAA. I think Campbell is in the same boat. I'd give both like a 3% chance, which is probably generous. I think at some point Blaze Jordan might be promoted to AAA too. He has 390 PA at the AA level himself, though he is returning from injury and is still young. It's less likely than the big 3, but he should be pushing 500 PA by the end of July, and 600 by the end of August. And it's probably a coincidence, but he was promoted to A+ after 453 A ball PA. He was promoted to AA after 428 PA. edit: Although you just noted the lack of IF depth at AA. It doesn't really work in his favor for getting a promotion. |
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