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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 27, 2024 18:02:44 GMT -5
To open up 1b for Wong against lefties Do you think/has anyone heard it would be related to a bigger secondary trade? Hard to believe Jansen was worth 3 prospects, inc Coffey for this to be the primary move without McGuire going elsewhere or Jansen being re-traded right? Thoughts? Doubt Jansen gets re-traded. Makes sense to open up Wong to start @ 1B vs LHP. McGuire has to be traded though.
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Post by awalkinthepark on Jul 27, 2024 18:03:42 GMT -5
To open up 1b for Wong against lefties Do you think/has anyone heard it would be related to a bigger secondary trade? Hard to believe Jansen was worth 3 prospects, inc Coffey for this to be the primary move without McGuire going elsewhere or Jansen being re-traded right? Thoughts? I could be off base here but I still never understood where another right handed hitter would play on a team that has Yoshida at DH, Duran and Rafaela both getting PT and Casas and Grissom both returning sooner rather than later. Jensen fits in that environment though because it allows you to rest/rotate Wong.
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Post by wildsox on Jul 27, 2024 18:16:22 GMT -5
I’d be very happy if we made a Brad Ziegler type trade. Under the Radar consistent reliever that won’t cost a ton
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Post by asm18 on Jul 27, 2024 19:16:32 GMT -5
Blake Snell has 10 K’s through 4 innings so far today
Come on Craaaaaig
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Post by pawtucketwalt on Jul 27, 2024 19:24:00 GMT -5
Blake Snell has 10 K’s through 4 innings so far today Come on Craaaaaig NO THANKS
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 27, 2024 19:25:05 GMT -5
Phillies got Charlie Sheen to close.
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Post by asm18 on Jul 27, 2024 19:27:42 GMT -5
Blake Snell has 10 K’s through 4 innings so far today Come on Craaaaaig NO THANKS Why not? 2023 NL Cy Young winner and is looking back in form after being hurt - has a weird contract that probably limits his market
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 27, 2024 19:35:58 GMT -5
Blake Snell has 10 K’s through 4 innings so far today Come on Craaaaaig NO THANKS He’s going to be a top pitcher ROS. The thing you have to worry about is if he comes back next year and how he pitches from April to June when he’ll be barely above replacement level.
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Post by jdb on Jul 27, 2024 19:36:00 GMT -5
12 K’s through 5. 2 H and 2 BB.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 27, 2024 19:41:46 GMT -5
He’s going to be a top pitcher ROS. The thing you have to worry about is if he comes back next year and how he pitches from April to June when he’ll be barely above replacement level. He missed spring training. He will be above replacement level. May not be worth big bucks. But, he’ll be better.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 27, 2024 19:43:49 GMT -5
He’s going to be a top pitcher ROS. The thing you have to worry about is if he comes back next year and how he pitches from April to June when he’ll be barely above replacement level. He missed spring training. He will be above replacement level. May not be worth big bucks. But, he’ll be better. Even if he didn’t miss spring training he’s usually useless first half of the year. Second half is where he makes his bank.
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Post by asm18 on Jul 27, 2024 19:46:53 GMT -5
12 K’s through 5. 2 H and 2 BB. Honestly with Kodai Senga missing the rest of the year and the Mets in the playoffs, this feels like a situation where Steve Cohen just says F It. If something goes wrong he has to pay an injured Snell 30 mil next year not sure that’s gonna phase him
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 27, 2024 19:51:14 GMT -5
Giants farm system ranking increasing by one with every three strikeouts
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Post by asm18 on Jul 27, 2024 19:59:27 GMT -5
Giants farm system ranking increasing by one with every three strikeouts The dream of getting him for a discounted price because of his player option probably just died 20 minutes ago 😅
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jul 27, 2024 20:19:51 GMT -5
This is my favorite time of year, where if I'm coaching, I pull random prospects during games and have them hug their teammates in the dugout.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 27, 2024 20:27:01 GMT -5
12 K’s through 5. 2 H and 2 BB. Honestly with Kodai Senga missing the rest of the year and the Mets in the playoffs, this feels like a situation where Steve Cohen just says F It. If something goes wrong he has to pay an injured Snell 30 mil next year not sure that’s gonna phase him I dunno. Mets seemed pretty stand pat on building out their farm to be competitive in the years to come so to empty it again would fly against that mandate. Also, the Mets have some RP problems they badly need to address before SP.
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Post by nonothing on Jul 28, 2024 7:58:51 GMT -5
So what would you give up for Snell, knowing if he's great, he opts out, and if he isn't, we are stuck with him for $30M next season fi we can't trade him in the offseason? His FIP vs ERA is 3.34 vs 5.10, and his other peripherals are pretty good. Too many walks, but that's what you get with him. It's an interesting potential fit given the lack of true LT commitment, but could limit ability to go after Fried if they want to during the offseason (though I think they could figure it out if needed).
What do people think?
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Post by nonothing on Jul 28, 2024 8:29:24 GMT -5
So what would you give up for Snell, knowing if he's great, he opts out, and if he isn't, we are stuck with him for $30M next season fi we can't trade him in the offseason? His FIP vs ERA is 3.34 vs 5.10, and his other peripherals are pretty good. Too many walks, but that's what you get with him. It's an interesting potential fit given the lack of true LT commitment, but could limit ability to go after Fried if they want to during the offseason (though I think they could figure it out if needed). What do people think? My response (to my own question) would be that current SP #1-6 are off limits, no LHPs in deal and avoid Arias, Sandlin and ERC, but otherwise open the cabinet and make a deal if you can from the others.
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Post by awalkinthepark on Jul 28, 2024 8:43:13 GMT -5
So what would you give up for Snell, knowing if he's great, he opts out, and if he isn't, we are stuck with him for $30M next season fi we can't trade him in the offseason? His FIP vs ERA is 3.34 vs 5.10, and his other peripherals are pretty good. Too many walks, but that's what you get with him. It's an interesting potential fit given the lack of true LT commitment, but could limit ability to go after Fried if they want to during the offseason (though I think they could figure it out if needed). What do people think? If 2 months of Danny Jansen cost Coffey and Paulino, my guess is the cost of getting Snell would probably outrage people on here.
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Post by asm18 on Jul 28, 2024 8:51:37 GMT -5
So what would you give up for Snell, knowing if he's great, he opts out, and if he isn't, we are stuck with him for $30M next season fi we can't trade him in the offseason? His FIP vs ERA is 3.34 vs 5.10, and his other peripherals are pretty good. Too many walks, but that's what you get with him. It's an interesting potential fit given the lack of true LT commitment, but could limit ability to go after Fried if they want to during the offseason (though I think they could figure it out if needed). What do people think? If 2 months of Danny Jansen cost Coffey and Paulino, my guess is the cost of getting Snell would probably outrage people on here. Yeah it feels like after yesterday Snell went from a guy you could buy low on so to speak based on his rough start to the year and his player option - but now I would imagine there’s enough playoff hopefuls with big pockets involved who are willing to look past the downside risk involved that it’s no longer a bargain. Baseball Trade Values has his trade value barely above negative, but when a guy like gets 15 k’s in one game right before the dugout some teams gonna get crazy haha
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Post by orcoaster on Jul 28, 2024 8:51:46 GMT -5
Since returning from 36 days on the shelf, Snell has made four starts, 24IP, 8H, 2ER, 7/30 BB/SO. He threw 103 pitches with 15Ks in his start last night. Cy Young Snell is back. He is the deadline get atm. He instantly becomes the Red Sox ace and front man in any playoff run.
Despite his recent success, his contract reduces his price. Any three of Zanetello, Meidroth, Yourke, Lugo, plus a lottery pick should get him. I don't know what San Francisco would want, but I'm sure we could put together an appealing prospect package.
If you're going for it, this is the move, imo.
They still would need a relief arm or two.
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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 28, 2024 9:13:51 GMT -5
Maybe in the offseason they can figure out all the machinations to do this but I highly doubt they do it now
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Post by nonothing on Jul 28, 2024 9:15:56 GMT -5
Since returning from 36 days on the shelf, Snell has made four starts, 24IP, 8H, 2ER, 7/30 BB/SO. He threw 103 pitches with 15Ks in his start last night. Cy Young Snell is back. He is the deadline get atm. He instantly becomes the Red Sox ace and front man in any playoff run. Despite his recent success, his contract reduces his price. Any three of Zanetello, Meidroth, Yourke, Lugo, plus a lottery pick should get him. I don't know what San Francisco would want, but I'm sure we could put together an appealing prospect package. If you're going for it, this is the move, imo. They still would need a relief arm or two. Per above and others, I think the cost and risk of Snell's contract will not go unnoticed vs other guys you could trade for. I think the real Q from the Sox perspective is can they deal from outside their potentially most impactful long term pieces to get a deal done. I think they probably can for Snell. I don't think they could for Crochet or Skubal. Not sure they need a relief arm or two. Wouldn't say no, but adding SPs moves current SPs to RPs, so would be very careful on cost for adding an RP. If Bello, Criswell and maybe Hendricks become playoff RPs, that's pretty good adding to RP right there -- of course, injuries should be expected so not saying adding isn't of value, but I wouldn't overpay for an RP. I would overpay in prospect volume a bit for Snell. They effectively limited his innings for whoever the acquiring team is and that also has value if he is really coming into his Snellzilla phase of the season, which appears possibly true.
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Post by markm7 on Jul 28, 2024 9:17:57 GMT -5
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 28, 2024 9:20:38 GMT -5
Maybe in the offseason they can figure out all the machinations to do this but I highly doubt they do it now Wasn’t there already reporting by Passan or Rosenthal that the A’s were going to stand pat on him? I’d like the player but feels like the cost is only going up and you’d have to move Masa somehow, most likely. But still, a lineup opening with Duran/O’Neill/Devers/Rooker would be pretty awesome (or something along those lines).
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