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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 28, 2024 9:22:01 GMT -5
Maybe in the offseason they can figure out all the machinations to do this but I highly doubt they do it now Wasn’t there already reporting by Passan or Rosenthal that the A’s were going to stand pat on him? I’d like the player but feels like the cost is only going up and you’d have to move Masa somehow, most likely. But still, a lineup opening with Duran/O’Neill/Devers/Rooker would be pretty awesome (or something along those lines). Yeah, if Passan says he’s likely staying put, I don’t believe this report at all. Still, I’m in on Rooker. He’d be a great fit even though you’d likely have to find a way to dump Masa.
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Post by threeifbaerga on Jul 28, 2024 9:24:56 GMT -5
Wasn’t there already reporting by Passan or Rosenthal that the A’s were going to stand pat on him? I’d like the player but feels like the cost is only going up and you’d have to move Masa somehow, most likely. But still, a lineup opening with Duran/O’Neill/Devers/Rooker would be pretty awesome (or something along those lines). Yeah, if Passan says he’s likely staying put, I don’t believe this report at all. Still, I’m in on Rooker. He’d be a great fit even though you’d likely have to find a way to dump Masa.
Rooker could be staying put but that doesn't mean the Red Sox haven't shown interest.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 28, 2024 9:34:53 GMT -5
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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 28, 2024 9:36:23 GMT -5
mostly because I’m certain the Rays just got a haul from Preller, I just want us to get to do that one time
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Jul 28, 2024 9:41:35 GMT -5
The price for a good reliever is certainly pretty high this deadline. Damn, to top this would have taken one of our top 5 and more !
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Post by incandenza on Jul 28, 2024 9:42:23 GMT -5
Rooker is weird. Did nothing but mash all through the minors but spent time with 4 different teams from 2021 to 2023; didn't really get his first extended shot in the majors until age 28 last season and made the all-star team; has been even better this year. I'd like to know the story there.
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Post by briam on Jul 28, 2024 9:44:11 GMT -5
Part of my frustration with waiting is the prices are only going to go up and up. Seems like that’s what’s happening.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 28, 2024 9:44:12 GMT -5
Oh good, now the Rays have Dylan Lesko.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 28, 2024 9:46:20 GMT -5
Part of my frustration with waiting is the prices are only going to go up and up. Seems like that’s what’s happening. Again, I don’t think it’s a matter of Craig waiting as much as that the asking price is just been way too high.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 28, 2024 9:48:30 GMT -5
The price for a good reliever is certainly pretty high this deadline. Damn, to top this would have taken one of our top 5 and more ! Is there something I’m missing here? The price the Padres paid doesn’t seem that crazy.
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Post by briam on Jul 28, 2024 9:51:17 GMT -5
Part of my frustration with waiting is the prices are only going to go up and up. Seems like that’s what’s happening. Again, I don’t think it’s a matter of Craig waiting as much as that the asking price is just been way too high. The Puk deal is the one that stings, don’t think that price was painful and he has some control. We’ll see how the next 2 days shakeout.
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Post by asm18 on Jul 28, 2024 9:53:12 GMT -5
It is thoroughly defensible for Breslow to hold onto Kenley with the intent that you want to try to make the playoffs this year - the bullpen is shaky enough as is - in the face of a potentially juicy trade return… But the flipside is you best be committed to spending in the winter to make up for it.
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Post by kevfc89 on Jul 28, 2024 9:56:07 GMT -5
Boy, starting to think it's going to be too painful to trade for any good reliever.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Jul 28, 2024 9:56:20 GMT -5
The price for a good reliever is certainly pretty high this deadline. Damn, to top this would have taken one of our top 5 and more ! Is there something I’m missing here? The price the Padres paid doesn’t seem that crazy. On MLB site, Lesko is the Padres #3 prospect ( #76 top 100), Bush Jr. #8 and more tbd. That is a high price.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 28, 2024 9:56:29 GMT -5
Those new Rays prospects are all arrow trending downwards, I dunno if it's that big a package. But also Jason Adam isn't anything special and is gonna be kinda expensive for a pre free agency middle reliever.
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Post by asm18 on Jul 28, 2024 9:58:21 GMT -5
Didn’t realize but Jason Adam has 2.5 years of control left. Age 32-34 and in arbitration. So this ain’t a pure rental
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 28, 2024 10:00:50 GMT -5
Rooker is weird. Did nothing but mash all through the minors but spent time with 4 different teams from 2021 to 2023; didn't really get his first extended shot in the majors until age 28 last season and made the all-star team; has been even better this year. I'd like to know the story there. Sounds like a potential Kavadas trajectory.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 28, 2024 10:24:35 GMT -5
Is there something I’m missing here? The price the Padres paid doesn’t seem that crazy. On MLB site, Lesko is the Padres #3 prospect ( #76 top 100), Bush Jr. #8 and more tbd. That is a high price. Lesko has a big arm but at this point has no idea how to pitch. He's just a thrower. He cannot throw strikes and he's giving up a ton of runs in the minors. The Padres might have given the Rays their next Luis Patino. I dont think the rest of the cost was prohibitive. Wish the Sox could have made that move. Trade a big arm with no control and little else for a guy as reliable as Adam.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 28, 2024 10:30:56 GMT -5
Is there something I’m missing here? The price the Padres paid doesn’t seem that crazy. On MLB site, Lesko is the Padres #3 prospect ( #76 top 100), Bush Jr. #8 and more tbd. That is a high price. As has been stated above, I wouldn't use MLB's rankings right now. The only updates they do prior to the draft/deadline are to move prospects in and out due to trade or graduation. For example, if we include Kristian Campbell trade, MLB's list would imply that we only gave up our #30 prospect. Also, ranking is not that meaningful. The #3 prospect for 1 team could be comparable to the #8 on another.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 28, 2024 10:31:01 GMT -5
On MLB site, Lesko is the Padres #3 prospect ( #76 top 100), Bush Jr. #8 and more tbd. That is a high price. Lesko has a big arm but at this point has no idea how to pitch. He's just a thrower. He cannot throw strikes and he's giving up a ton of runs in the minors. The Padres might have given the Rays their next Luis Patino. I dont think the rest of the cost was prohibitive. Wish the Sox could have made that move. Trade a big arm with no control and little else for a guy as reliable as Adam. Lesko was a mid-first round draft pick, has only 103 professional innings pitched, and is not yet 21, so "at this point" is doing a lot of work. I would have been thrilled if the Red Sox had gotten him as the return for, say, Kenley Jansen.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Jul 28, 2024 10:33:37 GMT -5
On MLB site, Lesko is the Padres #3 prospect ( #76 top 100), Bush Jr. #8 and more tbd. That is a high price. Lesko has a big arm but at this point has no idea how to pitch. He's just a thrower. He cannot throw strikes and he's giving up a ton of runs in the minors. The Padres might have given the Rays their next Luis Patino. I dont think the rest of the cost was prohibitive. Wish the Sox could have made that move. Trade a big arm with no control and little else for a guy as reliable as Adam. Time will tell on Lesko and Bush, but clearly this is not the deadline that teams can get a solid reliever for a couple lottery tickets.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 28, 2024 10:35:23 GMT -5
Lesko has a big arm but at this point has no idea how to pitch. He's just a thrower. He cannot throw strikes and he's giving up a ton of runs in the minors. The Padres might have given the Rays their next Luis Patino. I dont think the rest of the cost was prohibitive. Wish the Sox could have made that move. Trade a big arm with no control and little else for a guy as reliable as Adam. Lesko was a mid-first round draft pick, has only 103 professional innings pitched, and is not yet 21, so "at this point" is doing a lot of work. I would have been thrilled if the Red Sox had gotten him as the return for, say, Kenley Jansen. If he cant throw enough strikes at best he'll be a reliever and if so will he even be as good as 2.5 years of Adam? He's talented and there's time for him to out it together but you have to be able throw strikes consistently enough. Its hardly a given he will.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Jul 28, 2024 10:36:59 GMT -5
On MLB site, Lesko is the Padres #3 prospect ( #76 top 100), Bush Jr. #8 and more tbd. That is a high price. As has been stated above, I wouldn't use MLB's rankings right now. The only updates they do prior to the draft/deadline are to move prospects in and out due to trade or graduation. For example, if we include Kristian Campbell trade, MLB's list would imply that we only gave up our #30 prospect. Also, ranking is not that meaningful. The #3 prospect for 1 team could be comparable to the #8 on another. Yeah, its all relative and not exact at any point. I still think the Rays got a good return for Adams and expect that the Sox will have to trade someone we would rather they didn't to get an impact reliever.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 28, 2024 10:48:51 GMT -5
I think the Sox will make a small move like a Luis Garcia.
Paxton is a small move. Jansen is a small move.
The fan in me hates it but they're probably better off at this time with marginal increases rather than getting ripped off for a middle setup/middle reliever. But of course this supposes that Martin or eventually Hendrik gets healthy and effective by September, which isnt a given, but might be preferable to the cost for a Finnegan or Fairbank. And that means that a middle reliever type might be the way to go for a lesser cost. Of course a few more blown bullpen games..
Hell, I'd like to see them get Snell if they can get him for a reasonable cost, but I still hold out hope that the Sox will spend their money on Corbin Burnes, even though its unlikely.
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Post by wkdbigsoxfan on Jul 28, 2024 10:56:04 GMT -5
I wouldnt blame Breslow if he felt like he had to take an offer for Jansen
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