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Post by incandenza on Jul 28, 2024 14:45:30 GMT -5
Rays doing what we should have done the last 2 years (and this season if we aren’t serious buyers) with our rentals but they are doing it to an extreme They are getting returns and have what is a scary rotation next year Mclanahan Bradley Baz Springs Littell Except they're not doing it with their rentals, they're doing it with their guys who are barely hitting arb to save money, which a) the Red Sox should never do, and b) is gonna get them much better returns than the Red Sox were ever gonna get for their rentals.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 28, 2024 14:49:45 GMT -5
We are his 8th team. Ugh. Jeez, if this is their bullpen help then I congratulate them because they found somebody worse than Chase Anderson.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 28, 2024 14:53:57 GMT -5
I have a sneaking suspicion Morel is going to outhit Parades going forward
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Post by blizzards39 on Jul 28, 2024 14:57:24 GMT -5
Rangers losing again today. I wonder if they decide to subtract?
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 28, 2024 15:02:54 GMT -5
Rangers losing again today. I wonder if they decide to subtract? Their playoff odds are 9% at the moment. They’d be smart if they sold. Getting Eovaldi and Robertson would save lives. EDIT: or Yates for that matter. All 3 are FAs after this season.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 28, 2024 15:04:10 GMT -5
I have a sneaking suspicion Morel is going to outhit Parades going forward I can't tell if Paredes has been wildly lucky or wildly unlucky in his career so far. Over the last three seasons he has a BABIP of .241, which would be one of the very worst of all time if he kept it up for his whole career. On the other hand his xwOBAs have gone .297, .315, .304 over those years yet his wOBA is .347.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Jul 28, 2024 15:05:48 GMT -5
Shrewd move by the Rays picking up Morel, who has strong batted ball data, but a .220 babip. He has reduced his strikeout rate by 6.5% while raising his walk rate by 2.8%.
If he gets to play 2b (his best position) and it's easy to see a 3+ win player for the next 3.5 years.
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Post by pappyman99 on Jul 28, 2024 15:06:56 GMT -5
Rays doing what we should have done the last 2 years (and this season if we aren’t serious buyers) with our rentals but they are doing it to an extreme They are getting returns and have what is a scary rotation next year Mclanahan Bradley Baz Springs Littell Except they're not doing it with their rentals, they're doing it with their guys who are barely hitting arb to save money, which a) the Red Sox should never do, and b) is gonna get them much better returns than the Red Sox were ever gonna get for their rentals. I said with our rentals, but that they are doing it to an extreme as in players that are not rentals and actually controlled for a bit Edit ** I agree we should never trade controlled guys to save money, but their strategy is what I like (for our rentals specifically). If you aren’t really a contender, sell your rentals to make your next year and beyond better
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 28, 2024 15:07:24 GMT -5
I have a sneaking suspicion Morel is going to outhit Parades going forward I can't tell if Paredes has been wildly lucky or wildly unlucky in his career so far. Over the last three seasons he has a BABIP of .241, which would be one of the very worst of all time if he kept it up for his whole career. On the other hand his xwOBAs have gone .297, .315, .304 over those years yet his wOBA is .347.
8th perecentile bat speed, 5th percentile hard hit %, 4th percentile average EV
I guess the whole league is skeptical, because he didn't fetch the kind of package you'd get for any other guy with less than 3 years of service time and 10 career WAR
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Post by wcsoxfan on Jul 28, 2024 15:12:53 GMT -5
I can't tell if Paredes has been wildly lucky or wildly unlucky in his career so far. Over the last three seasons he has a BABIP of .241, which would be one of the very worst of all time if he kept it up for his whole career. On the other hand his xwOBAs have gone .297, .315, .304 over those years yet his wOBA is .347. Paredes' xBA (.214; 5th percentile), bat speed (68.2; 8th percentile) EV (85; 4th percentile), maxEV (107), barrel% (5.4%; 26th percentile) and Hardhit% (26.1%; 5th percentile) are all awful; and have been so for his career. He has earned that babip.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 28, 2024 15:14:59 GMT -5
How the heck does he have a 129 wRC+ since 2022 then? I mean, he walks a fair amount... but it's very confusing!
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 28, 2024 15:19:15 GMT -5
How the heck does he have a 129 wRC+ since 2022 then? I mean, he walks a fair amount... but it's very confusing! He is #1 in the league in generating pulled fly balls which gets you lots of home runs
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 28, 2024 15:20:37 GMT -5
Red Sox FO continues to shop at the $1 store. Wreaks more of maintaining optics “look we’re trying” than genuinely trying to improve the club. Let’s see what happens between now and Tuesday, but not feeling too confident they’ll actually do anything of significance. They won’t add much payroll. It’s just not what they’re going to do anymore. That said, they can still make moves on the edges and hopefully keep Jansen for another year or so.
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Post by pappyman99 on Jul 28, 2024 15:21:19 GMT -5
If Yoshida is going to be even more the odd man out with Jansen
Is there any chance we trade Yoshida and specs for Snell (to help mitigate Snell’s player option? (Assuming we’re trying to be serious buyers)
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 28, 2024 15:21:45 GMT -5
Red Sox FO continues to shop at the $1 store. Wreaks more of maintaining optics “look we’re trying” than genuinely trying to improve the club. Let’s see what happens between now and Tuesday, but not feeling too confident they’ll actually do anything of significance. They are not going to make moves like these just for optics. Paxton adds much needed SP depth and improves the bullpen by pushing Criswell into it. Jansen is also a clear upgrade at the back of the bench, and brings another much needed RH bat. These moves very clearly improve the club. Look around the league. Almost no one is doing much more than this.
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 28, 2024 15:23:39 GMT -5
If Yoshida is going to be even more the odd man out with Jansen Is there any chance we trade Yoshida and specs for Snell (to help mitigate Snell’s player option? (Assuming we’re trying to be serious buyers) Jansen shouldn't impact Yoshida's playing time much. He may steal a couple ABs against lefties, but I expect McGuire, Wong, and Westbrook are the only ones who will lose more than a smidge of playing time. This is a good thing for Wong too; he needs rest.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 28, 2024 15:27:18 GMT -5
How the heck does he have a 129 wRC+ since 2022 then? I mean, he walks a fair amount... but it's very confusing! He is #1 in the league in generating pulled fly balls which gets you lots of home runs ...and has a unique knack for getting them out in the Amazon warehouse where the Rays play, it looks like.
Here's a wild stat: for his career he has 74 expected home runs in Tampa, according to baseballsavant... and 27 in Baltimore. (57 in his new home ballpark.)
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Post by incandenza on Jul 28, 2024 15:29:13 GMT -5
If Yoshida is going to be even more the odd man out with Jansen Is there any chance we trade Yoshida and specs for Snell (to help mitigate Snell’s player option? (Assuming we’re trying to be serious buyers) Jansen shouldn't impact Yoshida's playing time much. He may steal a couple ABs against lefties, but I expect McGuire, Wong, and Westbrook are the only ones who will lose more than a smidge of playing time. This is a good thing for Wong too; he needs rest. So you're saying you trust Cora, the great tactician, to distribute the playing time wisely? He's off to a bad start tonight...
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 28, 2024 15:31:14 GMT -5
Red Sox FO continues to shop at the $1 store. Wreaks more of maintaining optics “look we’re trying” than genuinely trying to improve the club. Let’s see what happens between now and Tuesday, but not feeling too confident they’ll actually do anything of significance. They won’t add much payroll. It’s just not what they’re going to do anymore. That said, they can still make moves on the edges and hopefully keep Jansen for another year or so. They are ~$11 million under the tax line so far and we're not past the deadline yet. After all the bellyaching about payroll based on a single quote from Sam Kennedy, they're right about exactly where they should be in a year they don't intend to pay the tax, which was a fair enough decision this year. Edit: And Jansen isn't accounted for yet. He should be about a $1.8 million hit, so the actual figure is more like $9 million. And again, there's time left before the deadline.
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 28, 2024 15:35:05 GMT -5
Jansen shouldn't impact Yoshida's playing time much. He may steal a couple ABs against lefties, but I expect McGuire, Wong, and Westbrook are the only ones who will lose more than a smidge of playing time. This is a good thing for Wong too; he needs rest. So you're saying you trust Cora, the great tactician, to distribute the playing time wisely? He's off to a bad start tonight... Lol looks like I spoke too soon. Against a LHP I don't hate it - these are the times where Yoshida should have a chance of losing ABs - but he had better pinch hit once the starter is gone. Edit: I'd definitely still be starting Yoshida, to be clear.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 28, 2024 15:48:47 GMT -5
Rangers losing again today. I wonder if they decide to subtract? Their playoff odds are 9% at the moment. They’d be smart if they sold. Getting Eovaldi and Robertson would save lives. EDIT: or Yates for that matter. All 3 are FAs after this season. Yates (FA) and Robertson ($7m mutual option) make sense for them to move. I wonder about Nate ($20m player option vests with 50 more IP, which seems attainable). When he left Boston, he pretty clearly only wanted to pitch here or in Texas. As well as he's pitching, he could probably do better than 1/$20m this winter but he may again want to limit his landing spots. The player option would give him control over that at least for 2025 if he ends the year in Dallas or Boston. Either team would seem to be an attractive option, in terms of the possibility of winning in 2025, although most of his Boston teammates from 2022 are gone and the FO has turned over. I wonder if he's talked to the TEX FO about wanting to stay there.
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Post by chaimtime on Jul 28, 2024 16:51:10 GMT -5
Paredes hits a ton of fly balls right into the corner, which works great at the Trop. In Wrigley, a fair amount of them might not clear the netting.
Ben Clemens said that he’s had Paredes in the mix for the trade value series the past couple years, and teams are always cool on him.
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Post by cdj on Jul 28, 2024 16:54:47 GMT -5
Yoshida has been dogshit against LHP this season, I imagine that is why he’s not in the lineup. Jansen hasn’t hit for pop against them but at least has gotten on at a .370 clip against lefties this year and kills the yankees. Plus I imagine he has the greater power potential of the two against LHP at Fenway considering all he does is pull fly balls
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Post by blizzards39 on Jul 28, 2024 17:46:56 GMT -5
Yoshida has been dogshit against LHP this season, I imagine that is why he’s not in the lineup. Jansen hasn’t hit for pop against them but at least has gotten on at a .370 clip against lefties this year and kills the yankees. Plus I imagine he has the greater power potential of the two against LHP at Fenway considering all he does is pull fly balls Interesting thing on Jansen is he started the year hot. Had ine of his usually injuries and hasnt hit since. Prob due for a turnaround. Another thing is he walks and dosnt K much. Thats much needed in this lineup.
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 28, 2024 17:50:10 GMT -5
Yoshida has been dogshit against LHP this season, I imagine that is why he’s not in the lineup. Jansen hasn’t hit for pop against them but at least has gotten on at a .370 clip against lefties this year and kills the yankees. Plus I imagine he has the greater power potential of the two against LHP at Fenway considering all he does is pull fly balls I mean, Yoshida only has 54 PA against LHP this year and he's 3/12 with 6 BB (130 wRC+) against LHP since the ASB. I'd trust the combination of his career stats against LHP and his hot bat as of late over 36 awful PA against LHP when he was ice cold (and potentially playing hurt) early in the year.
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