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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 30, 2024 16:57:25 GMT -5
Martin Perez traded to the Padres.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 30, 2024 16:57:37 GMT -5
Friedman doesn’t lose trades. This should be interesting if the Tigers get anything of note or if they just panicked and undersold.
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Post by trotman on Jul 30, 2024 16:58:02 GMT -5
Flaherty ti the Dodgers per Passan
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Post by shagworthy on Jul 30, 2024 16:58:48 GMT -5
Dodgers also acquiring Kevin Kiermaier.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Jul 30, 2024 16:58:51 GMT -5
I suppose a trade could still happen but this appears to be it.
Honestly, I would rather have been sellers than this. I know they bought, but it felt an awful lot like a straddle
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 30, 2024 16:58:53 GMT -5
Mets traded for Huascar Brazoban This is the trade I wish Craig made the most. Seems like the cost wouldn’t have prohibitive at all. Depends if you consider the Mets’ #29 prospect (FG) prohibitive. He’s not having any kind of breakout either. That’s a head scratcher.
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Post by rico6 on Jul 30, 2024 16:58:54 GMT -5
Friedman doesn’t lose trades. This should be interesting if the Tigers get anything of note or if they just panicked and undersold. Mookie Betts autographed bat.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jul 30, 2024 16:59:22 GMT -5
Must suck for the players, grinding it out and seeing everyone improve and go for it every year, while we shop at the thrift shop and hope the hand me downs fit us better than their previous owner.
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Post by asm18 on Jul 30, 2024 17:00:00 GMT -5
Padres got… Martin Perez lmao
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 30, 2024 17:00:09 GMT -5
Friedman doesn’t lose trades. This should be interesting if the Tigers get anything of note or if they just panicked and undersold. Mookie Betts autographed bat. I guess it’s better than a Jeter Downs ball.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jul 30, 2024 17:00:24 GMT -5
If this is it then this is year 3 of a rather pointless deadline. I'm sure Bloom could have made similar moves. Will be curious if the team plays as if they're disappointed. Paxton and Jansen are anything but pointless. Especially Jansen, who adds the missing extra RH bate while upgrading the offense for the backup catcher and while making it possible to keep Dom Smith on the roster alongside Casas, something I thought was impossible. They did the right thing in the insane reliever seller's market, acquiring three so-so pitchers they clearly think have upside. If just one of Yoham Ramires, Lucas Sims, or Quinn Priester pans out, they end up well in the bang-for-bucks competition. Paxton was DFA'd. His peripherals are not very good. I like the pickup, but I think you need a more reliable mid-rotation starter. Danny Jansen has an OPS+ of 90, but they desperately needed a RHH. He is better than Reese McGuire. He fits more of a need. I think this is still a rather marginal move, but they're better with him. But I'll grant this trade. I don't think Lucas Sims can be fixed in just a month. His 4.88 FIP and high walk rate would give me major pause to put him in a high leverage situation. Isn't Priester going to AAA? I like the trade, I don't think he's going to help the 2024 club. From what I'm reading he needs to get his strike out numbers back up. His FIP was 4.81 and his WHIP is 1.455. I'd rather leave him in AAA for the remainder of the season.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 30, 2024 17:00:31 GMT -5
Tigers got Thayron Liranzo (#3 prospect) and Trey Sweeney (#28). Both ranked by BA.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 30, 2024 17:01:22 GMT -5
Tigers got Thayron Liranzo (#3 prospect) and Trey Sweeney (#28). Both ranked by BA. Damn. Friedman is the GOAT. He honestly is. Just a masterclass on how to negotiate.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 30, 2024 17:01:47 GMT -5
Must suck for the players, grinding it out and seeing everyone improve and go for it every year, while we shop at the thrift shop and hope the hand me downs fit us better than their previous owner. Yeah, I bet they’re not even talking to Paxton or Jansen. Sims can expect the cold shoulder as well…
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Post by ematz1423 on Jul 30, 2024 17:02:11 GMT -5
This wasn't exactly a star studded trade deadline. I'm having a hard time seeing anyone that got moved that would have moved the needle much for the Sox. Breslow played it pretty decently in my opinion.
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Post by shagworthy on Jul 30, 2024 17:02:15 GMT -5
Padres got… Martin Perez lmao LHP never die. It's like they all are Buddhists and get reincarnated over and over and over again.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 30, 2024 17:04:26 GMT -5
My not very nuanced deadline take: In a year that they couldn't realistically be expected to go all in, they marginally improved certain areas of the roster and avoided trading anyone of real significance to do it. When you combine the presumed upgrades at catcher and in the bullpen with the return of Casas/Slaten/Martin, this is a team that should feel pretty good about its ability to compete for a playoff spot. I would've been happy with a bigger move, but I'm also content avoiding paying premium prices for replaceable talent. I'd give it a C+/B-, I think the team improved but I don't think the needle is moved drastically.
Also the Priester deal was an excellent gamble, in my opinion.
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Post by rico6 on Jul 30, 2024 17:04:49 GMT -5
I suppose a trade could still happen but this appears to be it. Honestly, I would rather have been sellers than this. I know they bought, but it felt an awful lot like a straddle As a fan, I would still be excited about this year's team even if they sold on Jansen and Pivetta (as long as they brought in really good prospects). The players may not like selling those two but the teams they are chasing made some good moves.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jul 30, 2024 17:05:18 GMT -5
To put it another way, if you don't think this window is right now, that's fine. They have an insane core of guys coming up and are already here with Casas, Duran, Houck, Mayer, Anthony, Campbell, Crawford, Devers and I'm sure I'm missing guys. With that said, what would really help that core be even better is selling Pivetta, O'Neil, Jansen and maybe a couple of other guys. Even if they themselves are B-graded or whatever prospects they're still assets to be used to claim future talent when needed. But if you're thinking this is a playoff team then go for it and flip a Campbell type for someone who can help now and maybe has some term. This is just stagnation and this season is just another whatever year until these AA guys can get here. I think your line of reasoning, while valid, creates a false dichotomy: The idea that the only two valid courses of action are to tank or go all in. There is something to be gained, especially in a year where they have more prospects than they do space to protect them from the rule 5 draft, from working on the margins to try to sneak into the playoffs. Once you're in, all bets are off. So bolstering the bullpen, the rotation, and bringing in a right-handed bat cost relatively little from their future success, while keeping fans interested, their roster invested, and potentially good vibes going into the off season when they will have money to spend on top free agents. I wouldn't say, "go all in" or "tank", but I will say that there's a space between trading 1 top 15 prospect for a somewhat prospect of need and no guys in your top 20 for MLB talent and trading away at least 1 guy that makes you feel pain in your top 10. The highest prospects traded was their 12th, which again, was from a position of depth for a prospect of need and their 28th prospect. Edit: As soon as this submitted they got a pretty decent reliever so that's good at least.
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Post by cheers on Jul 30, 2024 17:06:00 GMT -5
Luis Garcia is useful. Raising my grade from C- to C.
More than anything, Sox needed a #4 starting pitcher. Paxton is not it.
Jansen and bag of relievers don't hurt, but don't help enough - but happy we didn't give up much to get them.
I'm disappointed but not angry. 2024 isn't the window. 2025-2027 surely is, and I'm glad the FO didn't mortgage the future for a fringy team.
That said, I really LIKE the 2024 Sox, and think games will matter into September, if not all the way through it.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 30, 2024 17:07:37 GMT -5
Color me utterly unimpressed leaning to disappointment. What Breslow indicated vs reality is a pretty big gulf. So...we play on and see how it goes.
The atmosphere in the clubhouse, and Cora's affect, will be interesting to observe.
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Post by briam on Jul 30, 2024 17:10:05 GMT -5
They desperately needed some relievers and they did get living-breathing relievers, but this does feel like a let down. Back up catcher and some mediocre arms to churn and burn. Meh
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 30, 2024 17:10:50 GMT -5
Luis Garcia is useful. Raising my grade from C- to C. More than anything, Sox needed a #4 starting pitcher. Paxton is not it. Jansen and bag of relievers don't hurt, but don't help enough - but happy we didn't give up much to get them. I'm disappointed but not angry. 2024 isn't the window. 2025-2027 surely is, and I'm glad the FO didn't mortgage the future for a fringy team. That said, I really LIKE the 2024 Sox, and think games will matter into September, if not all the way through it. Who the holy f*** are you writing off here, Pivetta or Bello?
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Post by briam on Jul 30, 2024 17:12:32 GMT -5
Luis Garcia is useful. Raising my grade from C- to C. More than anything, Sox needed a #4 starting pitcher. Paxton is not it. Jansen and bag of relievers don't hurt, but don't help enough - but happy we didn't give up much to get them. I'm disappointed but not angry. 2024 isn't the window. 2025-2027 surely is, and I'm glad the FO didn't mortgage the future for a fringy team. That said, I really LIKE the 2024 Sox, and think games will matter into September, if not all the way through it. Who the holy fuck are you writing off here, Pivetta or Bello? Kutter and Houck look like they’re hitting a brick wall due to their workload, somebody to give them some extra days of rest would’ve worked wonders.
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 30, 2024 17:13:11 GMT -5
Am I remembering right that there's usually enough of a delay between the deadline and when moves are reported that things will probably keep trickling in for a while? If so, about how long are we talking?
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