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Post by keninten on Jul 15, 2024 16:45:37 GMT -5
When was the last time the Redsox let a player hit and pitch? Casey Kelly? I remember Dave McCarty.
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Post by ixnayexxus on Jul 15, 2024 16:46:40 GMT -5
Trent Youngblood from Transylvania may be my favorite non Red Sox thing all draft
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Post by jaffinator on Jul 15, 2024 16:47:16 GMT -5
Pretty hard to be displeased with the results of the first ten rounds. Doesn't guarantee any of them will be any good, of course. But a nice blend of upside and floor, and what seems to be along a pretty consistent plan for the pitching dev team to execute. I was pretty content after the first five rounds, but the Cason pick has left me feeling great. Like I said earlier, getting another big first base type bat (not because the Red Sox need it exactly, but because I think the lower levels of the system do) and some more pitchers with traits would be an awesome way to end day three. I just hope there's a chance they've left themselves $200,000 or so for one more overslot guy tomorrow. With the Conrad Cason pick in the eighth round, they'll draft a backup for him at the very least on day 3 in case they can't sign him as a plan for that money. So at least we might get an indication of what other guys they're interested in.
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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 15, 2024 16:48:43 GMT -5
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 15, 2024 16:49:15 GMT -5
Before I get back to my real world job, a few names of players I *think* are still on the board that I'd be interested in, mostly senior signs: - Gavin Casas, 1B, South Carolina - Ben Miller, 1B, Duke - Ted Burton, IF, Texas A&M - Ty Evans, OF, Florida - Lyle Miller-Green, OF, Austin Peay - Connor Hujsak, OF, Mississippi State - Andre Duplantier, P, Texas - Gage Boehm, P, Texas
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Post by cdj on Jul 15, 2024 16:54:03 GMT -5
Gotta draft Gavin for vibes
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Post by mobaz on Jul 15, 2024 17:23:02 GMT -5
When was the last time the Redsox let a player hit and pitch? Casey Kelly? I remember Dave McCarty. R.I.P.!
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Post by cba82 on Jul 15, 2024 17:37:19 GMT -5
“Keith Law said it was a very bad year for high school players in the draft. Evidently the teams agreed” — Doesn’t that suggest that it will be a weak year for college players in 2027?
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 15, 2024 17:38:06 GMT -5
Pretty hard to be displeased with the results of the first ten rounds. Doesn't guarantee any of them will be any good, of course. But a nice blend of upside and floor, and what seems to be along a pretty consistent plan for the pitching dev team to execute. I was pretty content after the first five rounds, but the Cason pick has left me feeling great. Like I said earlier, getting another big first base type bat (not because the Red Sox need it exactly, but because I think the lower levels of the system do) and some more pitchers with traits would be an awesome way to end day three. I just hope there's a chance they've left themselves $200,000 or so for one more overslot guy tomorrow. All speculation of course. my2c, just looking over the 2 head and shoulders talentwise they picked rounds 1-10 is Montgomery can probably be counted on (for now) at slot and 8th rounder Cason? Thinking he's going to end up 2nd-3rd round money. Where did they save up 1-5-2m on days 1-2? 500k from the amount they can legally go over of course, but finding some other amount for another kid in rounds 11-20 might be another problem. Happy myself as last 2 days went. 2 high impact kids and lots of depth pitching. A win-win.
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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 15, 2024 17:39:14 GMT -5
Pretty hard to be displeased with the results of the first ten rounds. Doesn't guarantee any of them will be any good, of course. But a nice blend of upside and floor, and what seems to be along a pretty consistent plan for the pitching dev team to execute. I was pretty content after the first five rounds, but the Cason pick has left me feeling great. Like I said earlier, getting another big first base type bat (not because the Red Sox need it exactly, but because I think the lower levels of the system do) and some more pitchers with traits would be an awesome way to end day three. I just hope there's a chance they've left themselves $200,000 or so for one more overslot guy tomorrow. All speculation of course. my2c, just looking over the 2 head and shoulders talentwise they picked rounds 1-10 is Montgomery can probably be counted on (for now) at slot and 8th rounder Cason? Thinking he's going to end up 2nd-3rd round money. Where did they save up 1-5-2m on days 1-2? 500k from the amount they can legally go over of course, but finding some other amount for another kid in rounds 11-20 might be another problem. Happy myself as last 2 days went. 2 high impact kids and lots of depth pitching. A win-win. Last year Teel went $600k underslot, and there were some reports of last minute negotiations with Montgomery, I think it's possible they saved a little bit there too.
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Post by cdj on Jul 15, 2024 17:44:32 GMT -5
Really excited about that Conrad Cason pick
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Post by dirtdog on Jul 15, 2024 17:51:58 GMT -5
Seems Breslow has a type when it comes to pitchers. He likes em on the larger size. I agree and feel like they have a slightly better chance of getting them to hold up physically over the longer term.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 15, 2024 18:37:02 GMT -5
Seems Breslow has a type when it comes to pitchers. He likes em on the larger size. I agree and feel like they have a slightly better chance of getting them to hold up physically over the longer term. The average pitcher drafted by all teams is like 6'3" and the average pitcher drafter by the Red Sox (n=5) is just over 6'4" and I'm going to guess that this is just totally random noise.
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Post by bos834 on Jul 15, 2024 18:50:40 GMT -5
Cason just cracked the big league rotation in 2029 in my OOTP save if that gives anyone any hope An absolute monster on OOTP. Two way player who can play 2nd base when he isn't pitching.
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Post by wOBA Fett on Jul 15, 2024 19:05:57 GMT -5
The Sox drafted only ranked prospects in rounds 3-10 instead of creating money for over-slots guy by drafting multiple $10k senior signs.
Quantity over quality is a completely different Day #2 than under Bloom.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 15, 2024 19:15:15 GMT -5
My mistake. Should stop with memories not nice regarding former players.
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Post by dirtdog on Jul 15, 2024 19:20:44 GMT -5
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Post by chaimtime on Jul 15, 2024 19:21:56 GMT -5
The Sox drafted only ranked prospects in rounds 3-10 instead of creating money for over-slots guy by drafting multiple $10k senior signs. Quantity over quality is a completely different Day #2 than under Bloom. Same people in charge of the draft room, though. Think it’s probably down to this being a “weak” class—better to take more bites at the Apple than try to find one guy worth going hard after.
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Post by nomar on Jul 15, 2024 19:28:01 GMT -5
Just my speculation: they took a good number of pitchers. I’m not surprised to see them casting a wider net with pitching in comparison to zeroing in on a couple specific position players you want to bet big on. Pitching is more volatile and risky.
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Post by radiohix on Jul 15, 2024 19:30:51 GMT -5
Been busy the last few days with work, I love this draft: The Montgomery pick was on my mind since he got injured and the Will Turner is …. I just can’t explain how freaking excited I am about this pick. I love where this organization is trending. As usual, thanks to all the posters here, every year you guys make this thread so informative and enjoyable to read. Finally no words can thank VermontSox and the work he puts in. You, sir, are an incredible asset to this community.
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Post by wOBA Fett on Jul 15, 2024 19:46:40 GMT -5
The Sox drafted only ranked prospects in rounds 3-10 instead of creating money for over-slots guy by drafting multiple $10k senior signs. Quantity over quality is a completely different Day #2 than under Bloom. Same people in charge of the draft room, though. Think it’s probably down to this being a “weak” class—better to take more bites at the Apple than try to find one guy worth going hard after. It's the same draft room but they appear to be operating under different directives. I'd bet we only see one of these guys sign for under $50k. For reference, the 2022 Draft had 4 guys sign for under $50k and 2023 draft had 3 guys sign for under $50k
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 15, 2024 19:56:33 GMT -5
Same people in charge of the draft room, though. Think it’s probably down to this being a “weak” class—better to take more bites at the Apple than try to find one guy worth going hard after. It's the same draft room but they appear to be operating under different directives. I'd bet we only see one of these guys sign for under $50k. For reference, the 2022 Draft had 4 guys sign for under $50k and 2023 draft had 3 guys sign for under $50k It is worth noting their draft strategy could very well have been influenced by A) a talent falling to them they didn’t expect, cutting into their anticipated slot savings. If Montgomery falls, maybe they take a guy like Benge and pool up more money for bigger fish in rounds 2 and 3 or B) the high school drop of this class being so weak that they didn’t seem many high school talents worthy of a Zanatello-like bonus. It almost certainly can’t be both A and B at the same time and it could also be a shift in philosophy under Breslow, but I don’t think you can look at this one class and say for certain. I mean I think you can make a case the strategy was even different year over year under Bloom, so it is probably just playing the hand you’re dealt to an extent.
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Post by bluechip on Jul 15, 2024 20:09:11 GMT -5
When was the last time (excluding 2020) that the Red Sox didn’t take a senior in the first ten rounds?
Edit: it looks like that was 2011, when many teams had not adopted the strategy of senior signings.
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Post by wOBA Fett on Jul 15, 2024 20:15:52 GMT -5
It's the same draft room but they appear to be operating under different directives. I'd bet we only see one of these guys sign for under $50k. For reference, the 2022 Draft had 4 guys sign for under $50k and 2023 draft had 3 guys sign for under $50k It is worth noting their draft strategy could very well have been influenced by A) a talent falling to them they didn’t expect, cutting into their anticipated slot savings. If Montgomery falls, maybe they take a guy like Benge and pool up more money for bigger fish in rounds 2 and 3 or B) the high school drop of this class being so weak that they didn’t seem many high school talents worthy of a Zanatello-like bonus. It almost certainly can’t be both A and B at the same time and it could also be a shift in philosophy under Breslow, but I don’t think you can look at this one class and say for certain. I mean I think you can make a case the strategy was even different year over year under Bloom, so it is probably just playing the hand you’re dealt to an extent. B would be the most likely situation because it seems like Montgomery is going to be close to slot. I actually like this approach better because those close to slot guys in recent drafts have developed into decent prospects even if they have less upside.
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Post by wOBA Fett on Jul 15, 2024 20:18:00 GMT -5
When was the last time (excluding 2020) that the Red Sox didn’t take a senior in the first ten rounds? Edit: it looks like that was 2011, when many teams had not adopted the strategy of senior signings. Unranked Mookie Betts was also hilarious
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