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Post by oleary25 on Jul 29, 2024 17:49:22 GMT -5
Not sure I follow the logic? They had a deal at 12 with cam smith. Probably a bit under slot or slot. Montgomery fell to 12 the pick switched. Which would imply they got him either slot or under slot. That’s what my rational thinking. If the prospects were apples to apples in a monetary sense they picked the best prospect. I called the under slot with Montgomery!
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Post by sportshubby on Jul 29, 2024 17:56:04 GMT -5
Woke up with this thought on Montgomery - what if the Sox got a better look at his injury and are having 2nd thoughts about his offer? Any chance they have dropped his offer significantly and that is driving the wait? I know there is still time, and they have others that are unsigned as well. Putting this out there so that some news completely contradicting this thought can come out. You're welcome everyone. Seems like when I put thoughts like this out there, they are pretty much eliminated immediately.
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Post by funkybuddha on Jul 29, 2024 19:32:13 GMT -5
What a huge signing day! Montgomery, Tolle & Cason right around what would be expected. Seems like even after the trades the system is even deeper tonight and better positioned among position players and pitching.
It’s been a bit rough since ASG but big 3 getting close and more coming after hopefully, Cora extended and wanting to stay, Montgomery falling, trades (albeit modest) and tonight’s explosion seems like better days might be here and even better coming.
Be interesting to see what deadline brings? Have to think at least 1 reliever unless cost is astronomical. Lastly could Bell be RH bat for free?
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Post by oleary25 on Jul 29, 2024 19:50:06 GMT -5
Woke up with this thought on Montgomery - what if the Sox got a better look at his injury and are having 2nd thoughts about his offer? Any chance they have dropped his offer significantly and that is driving the wait? I know there is still time, and they have others that are unsigned as well. Putting this out there so that some news completely contradicting this thought can come out. You're welcome everyone. Seems like when I put thoughts like this out there, they are pretty much eliminated immediately. They’re fast to judge but are no where when they’re wrong. I’m talking to you Chris Hatfield.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 29, 2024 20:19:53 GMT -5
We have no way of knowing, I certainly don't, what deals they have with players and what discussions they've had with them. Guesses are just that as Mike Andrews makes clear. We knew the team was confident they could sign everyone so that was the contour of the spending pool. It may have informed the offer to Montgomery but that's also a guess.
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Post by oleary25 on Jul 29, 2024 20:29:06 GMT -5
We have no way of knowing, I certainly don't, what deals they have with players and what discussions they've had with them. Guesses are just that as Mike Andrews makes clear. We knew the team was confident they could sign everyone so that was the contour of the spending pool. It may have informed the offer to Montgomery but that's also a guess. Call it intuition , call it logic the same result happened. If you listened to live to the broadcast they stated the pick was cam smith but had changed it to Montgomery led to believe if they had a similar price point they took the better player. Also Ankle injury played a role. Thank you Norm you’re always informative. I’m just tired of posting and being lambasted for an opinion.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 29, 2024 21:47:31 GMT -5
You're welcome everyone. Seems like when I put thoughts like this out there, they are pretty much eliminated immediately. They’re fast to judge but are no where when they’re wrong. I’m talking to you Chris Hatfield. Lol. What did I do now? You know they're kidding and referring to the "reverse jinx" they mentioned in the first post, right? Calm down, Francis.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 29, 2024 21:49:48 GMT -5
They had a deal at 12 with cam smith. Probably a bit under slot or slot. Montgomery fell to 12 the pick switched. Which would imply they got him either slot or under slot. That’s what my rational thinking. If the prospects were apples to apples in a monetary sense they picked the best prospect. I called the under slot with Montgomery! If this is what you're referring to, again, my response was not that he's not getting under slot, over slot, or exactly slot. It was that whatever Cam Smith got had nothing to do with knowing what Montgomery was going to get. They very easily could've had a deal with Smith for any amount but then pivoted because Montgomery fell. If you disagree, that's fine.
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Post by bosoxnation on Jul 29, 2024 23:37:43 GMT -5
Slot under slot over slot doesn't matter I'm happy they got em!!!
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 30, 2024 9:53:41 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 30, 2024 9:58:47 GMT -5
I would have gladly sacrificed one of those day three signs just for the two weeks of speculating about if there was a way to squeeze in the ranked high school infielder we hopelessly took in round 16.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 30, 2024 10:20:19 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on Jul 30, 2024 11:07:37 GMT -5
I would have gladly sacrificed one of those day three signs just for the two weeks of speculating about if there was a way to squeeze in the ranked high school infielder we hopelessly took in round 16. Good ol Phoenix Call didn’t play much at UCLA this past year but is hitting pretty well on the cape
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Post by nonothing on Jul 30, 2024 11:25:37 GMT -5
Well done, Red Sox!
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 30, 2024 11:51:31 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 30, 2024 11:55:47 GMT -5
Okay I'm officially impressed.
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Post by badfishnbc on Jul 30, 2024 12:44:41 GMT -5
I'm so confused - how are this thread supposed to reach 16+ pages if everyone is signed and there's no speculation on dollar amounts??
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Post by tjb21 on Jul 30, 2024 15:05:30 GMT -5
I'm so confused - how are this thread supposed to reach 16+ pages if everyone is signed and there's no speculation on dollar amounts?? Guesstimations on who will slot into the SP top 60, and where, after the deadline. That should do it.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2024 16:10:32 GMT -5
I'm so confused - how are this thread supposed to reach 16+ pages if everyone is signed and there's no speculation on dollar amounts?? Didn't even need to talk about duffel bags of cash as a way to entice young players who cannot resist duffel bags of cash!
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Post by natesp4 on Jul 30, 2024 16:35:51 GMT -5
Enjoyed the post-draft Callis pod as usual.
One of my favorite things about Callis is that he's not even specifically a Red Sox guy. He's just a dude who loves baseball and prospects, and loves talking those two things with people who share that passion.
I hope he understands how much we appreciate him taking the time out to join the pod each time
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 30, 2024 16:49:33 GMT -5
Enjoyed the post-draft Callis pod as usual. One of my favorite things about Callis is that he's not even specifically a Red Sox guy. He's just a dude who loves baseball and prospects, and loves talking those two things with people who share that passion. I hope he understands how much we appreciate him taking the time out to join the pod each time My main takeaway from the podcast is that Tolle is gonna break out in a crazy way next year (he was meh on the Campbell pick last year IIRC)
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Post by wvusox on Jul 30, 2024 16:52:56 GMT -5
Sorry, pet peeve item here: Can the Sox not afford a decent sized backdrop that covers the entire background during signings? Just hate seeing the wall with outlets and crap visible when a full-sized backdrop could easily cover all of that. I've seen division III college signings at local high schools that look more professional. <end rant>
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Post by jchang on Jul 30, 2024 17:24:12 GMT -5
Sorry, pet peeve item here: Can the Sox not afford a decent sized backdrop that covers the entire background during signings? Just hate seeing the wall with outlets and crap visible when a full-sized backdrop could easily cover all of that. I've seen division III college signings at local high schools that look more professional. <end rant> if we were to nitpick, we can blame the cameraman for being too high, hence the backdrop is smaller at the top. or he could have used a tilt-shift lens to correct for this, but these cost over 2k, and maybe he didn't have the budget?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 30, 2024 18:13:15 GMT -5
I'm just gonna step out of the way for when Kelly Kool-aid Mans her way into this photography discussion...
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Post by sittingstill on Jul 30, 2024 18:40:01 GMT -5
Sorry, pet peeve item here: Can the Sox not afford a decent sized backdrop that covers the entire background during signings? Just hate seeing the wall with outlets and crap visible when a full-sized backdrop could easily cover all of that. I've seen division III college signings at local high schools that look more professional. <end rant> if we were to nitpick, we can blame the cameraman for being too high, hence the backdrop is smaller at the top. or he could have used a tilt-shift lens to correct for this, but these cost over 2k, and maybe he didn't have the budget? I mean... there's this tool called Crop. Yes--lean down, kneel down or grab a chair so you're just slightly above head level with the player (you do want to see the contract!), and zoom in so you see more of his face and less of the backdrop in the first place. But there's almost no chance these are photos from a professional photog--in my experience these are almost certainly from the player's agent's cell phone, maybe from family.
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