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Post by jimoh on Jul 29, 2024 14:28:58 GMT -5
Just a reminder, apropos of nothing, that if you block someone, but then people keep quoting the guy you have blocked, you have to keep seeming their nonsense.
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Post by rickasadoorian on Jul 29, 2024 14:30:03 GMT -5
"Priester ... has around 133 days of major league service. It’s possible he crosses the 172-day threshold to reach a full service year in 2024, but he’d still be under control for five seasons beyond this one. If the Sox send him down to Triple-A Worcester at any point, that could push his free agent timeline back and give Boston six full years of control" www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/01/about-tim-die-1.htmlWildly curious if MarkM is the type of poster who admits he’s wrong (even after so fervently defending his position) or if he just goes quiet. Because the third option (dying on this hill) is ban worthy with the facts staring him in the face. Have you seen his post history? He'll double or triple down or just move on without acknowledging. His next good post will be his first.
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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 29, 2024 14:30:41 GMT -5
Anyways I’m a huge Yorke fan but I think this makes sense. They had to pick a couple 2B guys to bet on and they could use another talented arm
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Post by geostorm on Jul 29, 2024 14:32:38 GMT -5
Also agree...and, though not on the 40 man, a move on Yorke would've been required, end of this season, no? What’s not to like? Traded from the glut of middle infielders for a pitcher who was a better prospect than Yorke ever was as recently as last year. Seems like a pretty efficient move. 100% Priester was the 18th overall pick in 2019 (out of high school) Yorke was the 17th overall pick in 2020 (out of high school) Priester was a guy we never could have gotten a year ago. This doesn't need to be Bailey magic. They need to help him acclimate to MLB and let him grow his role over time. Pitch selection, shaping, location mgmt could make this guy a stud. He has the arm talent, so let's see if it can take the next step. No guarantee Yorke's first half season would have gone any better. MLB is a big step up. I am sure the Sox believe this guy has the stuff to succeed if they did the deal. One for one swap from a position of high duplication the the system for 1st Round SP talent with full term of control is an outstanding move. Best of luck to both guys in their new organizations.
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Post by greenmonster on Jul 29, 2024 14:33:40 GMT -5
Didn’t read through the thread yet so someone may have said this but this guy sounds almost like the Nick Yorke of pitching prospects Does he not field his position well? I hadn't heard that yet. Walks & Homers??
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Post by shagworthy on Jul 29, 2024 14:36:47 GMT -5
Judging by the tenor of the above thread, I think we need a SoxProspects Fight Club.
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Post by markm7 on Jul 29, 2024 14:38:48 GMT -5
Even if it saves a year of control it doesn’t matter if he can’t figure it out in the big leagues and his best chance to figure it out is with Bailey starting the rest of the season not in AAA which blows and wasting time for some year which in all probability won’t matter That's utterly ridiculous. If he does figure it out over the next several years that extra year of control will be huge. How one could come to any other conclusion and would rather see him continue to get lit upon the majors is mind boggling. Yes how stupid of me not to account for 2030 which also happens to be the year they will finally call up a 28 year old Marcelo Mayer for his first game
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Post by cdj on Jul 29, 2024 14:41:13 GMT -5
Stop quoting the clown it defeats the purpose of ignore function 😭
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jul 29, 2024 14:42:25 GMT -5
Judging by the tenor of the above thread, I think we need a SoxProspects Fight Club. We might already have one. And if so, the 1st rule is ...
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Post by shagworthy on Jul 29, 2024 14:45:40 GMT -5
PSA:
If you go to a persons profile you can block them and their comments. I normally wouldn't suggest it as a one off, people can have a bad day, and I just choose to ignore them and move on, thus keeping my blood pressure in a respectable place. You don't feed oxygen to a fire, and as Mark Twain Said:
"You can't argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"
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Post by LoneStarSox on Jul 29, 2024 14:45:52 GMT -5
Wildly curious if MarkM is the type of poster who admits he’s wrong (even after so fervently defending his position) or if he just goes quiet. Because the third option (dying on this hill) is ban worthy with the facts staring him in the face. Have you seen his post history? He'll double or triple down or just move on without acknowledging. His next good post will be his first. We got into it prior to the AS break which were his first posts since April. I’m, unfortunately, well versed.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 29, 2024 14:46:25 GMT -5
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Post by trotman on Jul 29, 2024 14:46:38 GMT -5
Stop quoting the clown it defeats the purpose of ignore function 😭 Thanks for the ignore tip. Didn't realize that was a function we could do. On to actually talking productively now!
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Post by shagworthy on Jul 29, 2024 14:47:01 GMT -5
Judging by the tenor of the above thread, I think we need a SoxProspects Fight Club. We might already have one. And if so, the 1st rule is ... 1. Axe Body Spray is not cologne?
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Post by jimoh on Jul 29, 2024 14:48:38 GMT -5
Priester was great in long relief July 9: 6 innings, 8 ks, 2 er, fastball in the video seemed to hit 94 and 95. 95 pitches.
Not so good Saturday July 27: 4 innings, 5 runs, 2 HR
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jul 29, 2024 14:50:09 GMT -5
Have this weird feeling we’re going to regret choosing Grissom over Yorke.
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Post by trotnixon7 on Jul 29, 2024 14:50:54 GMT -5
That's utterly ridiculous. If he does figure it out over the next several years that extra year of control will be huge. How one could come to any other conclusion and would rather see him continue to get lit upon the majors is mind boggling. Yes how stupid of me not to account for 2030 which also happens to be the year they will finally call up a 28 year old Marcelo Mayer for his first game Am I missing something? The man is only 21, patience.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 29, 2024 14:56:22 GMT -5
That's utterly ridiculous. If he does figure it out over the next several years that extra year of control will be huge. How one could come to any other conclusion and would rather see him continue to get lit upon the majors is mind boggling. Yes how stupid of me not to account for 2030 which also happens to be the year they will finally call up a 28 year old Marcelo Mayer for his first game Exaggerate much?
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Post by patford on Jul 29, 2024 14:57:19 GMT -5
Just a hunch, but Yorke gives Michael Chavis vibes. I think the Sox won this one. Nah, Yorke is way better than Chavis - those K rates were never going to play. I was thinking more Garin Cecchini.
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Post by soxin8 on Jul 29, 2024 15:01:33 GMT -5
Is Pittsburgh so pitching-rich that they were willing to deal him in a one-for-one swap? Not sure I understand the trade from their perspective. www.mlb.com/prospects/pirates4 of Pittsburgh's top 5 prospects are pitchers, even after the Skenes promotion. I was wondering if Craig could swing a prospect trade like this with a pitching rich org. They are rare. My last memory of Yorke will be him being the only Portland player I've ever seen sign an autograph in Hartford after a game in April. He made a young fan very happy. I think I speak for everyone here when I say we wish him all the best in Pittsburgh.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 29, 2024 15:27:35 GMT -5
You can never have too much pitching, but you can have too many MIFs who are better suited to LF. I hate to give up on Yorke, but rosters are a number game. And Yorke’s number as a MIF was not likely to be called. Cynical question: when does Bobby get dealt? I predict he'll be traded for Bryce Brentz.
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Post by trotman on Jul 29, 2024 15:34:31 GMT -5
You can never have too much pitching, but you can have too many MIFs who are better suited to LF. I hate to give up on Yorke, but rosters are a number game. And Yorke’s number as a MIF was not likely to be called. Cynical question: when does Bobby get dealt? I predict he'll be traded for Bryce Brentz. Nah Cincinnati has this dude with raw talent. Hits from the right side too. Has the ability to hit 40 homers once he plays a full season. Joking aside I forgot Wily Mo Pena hit .301 the year he was traded to the Red Sox.
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Post by bosoxnation on Jul 29, 2024 15:44:58 GMT -5
I'll miss Nick for sure. Great kid and heck of a player but with that team they are building over there I'll be happy to watch him in Pitt! As for the trade I think it was great. I've always wondered why teams didn't trade player for player minor league guys in depth positions. They needed Nick. We needed Quinn. Win win.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jul 29, 2024 15:46:37 GMT -5
Back in '69 or '70, I forget which, Brother Ben was struggling in AAA. Couldn't hit a lick that year and then later, after getting promoted to the bigs he scuffled for a couple of years. He was no sure thing to have much of a MLB career.
Reading posts about Bobby, I'm grateful there wasn't a site like this back then where fans mock the players for their own sport, to amuse themselves, because I truly don't know how I'd have reacted. It wouldn't have been good.
Isn't it odd that a Red Sox prospect site is only welcoming to the player's families if the players are presently playing well enough to be "in favor"? Go in a slump, or underperform (somebody's) expectations, and here comes the vitriol.
I wonder if that's now part of a new draft pick's orientation: websites for your family to avoid. Should this one be on that list?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 29, 2024 15:52:33 GMT -5
Fyi it's 24 days to get control of Priester for 2030.
As for comments regarding what this means about Yorke vis-a-vis any other player, it means nothing. It means this was the player they needed to give up to get Priester, that they were willing to make that trade, and that's all. They might've been considering calling him up this week depending on how the deadline went, they might've known they were never going to do so. We'll never know.
I love the deal. Priester's ceiling is much higher than Yorke's for me.
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