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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 14, 2024 22:34:36 GMT -5
We will know soon enough - let's see what the playoff positioning is after the next two series. And also who is healthy and who is not.
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Post by keninten on Aug 15, 2024 0:53:08 GMT -5
I`ve always thought luck was always in balance. All the bad luck this year will be made up for, come playoff time.
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Post by notstarboard on Aug 15, 2024 1:07:07 GMT -5
Mostly because of injuries and managerial malpractice, as I already said.
Edit: SP innings is also a factor, but I put a lot of that on Giolito going down this year, and a secondary part on Cora's hook. The rotation hasn't been the problem for most of the year.
Last year the rotation hit a brick wall and in the offseason they lost 2 starters and added 2. One immediately got injured and they eventually brought back one of the guys from last year that broke down. It’s damn near the same exact rotation, OF COURSE it’s going to hit a wall just as it did last year and OF COURSE that’s going to tax the bullpen. They lost two starters in their mid-30s who had been injury risks for years and replaced them with a workhorse. They also had four young starters (Bello, Crawford, Houck, Whitlock) and they had to assume they would collectively improve versus 2023 and eat more innings given their ages and talent levels. Pivetta was still there too as a guy who could eat innings coming off an awesome end to 2023, and Criswell got added for more depth. Anderson was added as a long guy who could spot start in a pinch to go with a stretched-out Winckowski, and the Verdugo trade brought back Fitts who was seen as a guy who might be able to help late in the season if needed. That is plenty of depth! They can't just sign 26 pitchers. At a certain point they just need to play the games and make moves mid-season (e.g. for Paxton) to replenish that depth if it gets thin. The rotation has really not been the problem this year even after losing Giolito and Whitlock for the year very early. Cora's hook is generally too quick on the starters and he makes suboptimal decisions in relief that result in more bullpen innings and fewer rest days. The pen also lost two leverage guys simultaneously in Martin and Slaten. Throw in some extra innings games, Pivetta needing to miss a start right when Criswell got covid, Paxton popping his calf 5 pitches into the next start, Kenley not being able to pitch in Colorado, etc. and it's no small wonder that the wheels have come off quickly in the pen. They've been building up to this all year, though, and the fundamental issue is not starter depth or signing Sims and Garcia. Signing impact relievers instead would be useful, but it would not undo the several months worth of workload concerns that is causing most of the pen to implode. They also would have cost and arm and a leg, and given how unreliable relievers are, it just doesn't make sense to give up quality prospects in a sellers market for relievers.
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Post by greenmonster on Aug 15, 2024 7:54:06 GMT -5
I shut the TV off and headed to bed immediately after the game ended. If anyone stuck around longer, Did Cora provide any additional information about injuries to Sogard and/or Devers??
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Post by samb on Aug 15, 2024 13:15:58 GMT -5
Worried that Breslow has incorrectly evaluated this team 2x already. Once in the off season seeing that this team was good enough to complete with some more additions and two not selling at the deadline to at least get some valuable ammo for next year.
Seems like he did the same thing same thing as Chaim and basically did not pick a lane.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Aug 15, 2024 15:29:02 GMT -5
Worried that Breslow has incorrectly evaluated this team 2x already. Once in the off season seeing that this team was good enough to complete with some more additions and two not selling at the deadline to at least get some valuable ammo for next year. Seems like he did the same thing same thing as Chaim and basically did not pick a lane. I think you may be the one incorrectly evaluating the team here lol
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Post by samb on Aug 15, 2024 16:28:02 GMT -5
Worried that Breslow has incorrectly evaluated this team 2x already. Once in the off season seeing that this team was good enough to complete with some more additions and two not selling at the deadline to at least get some valuable ammo for next year. Seems like he did the same thing same thing as Chaim and basically did not pick a lane. I think you may be the one incorrectly evaluating the team here lol Which part? I think he he underestimated the team in the off-season and he overestimated it at the deadline.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Aug 15, 2024 16:59:24 GMT -5
Don't forget - Weissert, Keller, Campbell, Joely, Uwasawa and...ta da! Yohan Ramirez lurk in Woo. How the hell did the Red Sox sink to this low level? Aside from Slaten, help is not particularly on the way. Six straight years of not drafting enough pitching. Bingo, you got bingo!! Marcelo and Teel picks could have been made by the board. Roman was a great pick. As you said, where’s the beef…err..pitching
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