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8/15-8/18 Red Sox @ Orioles Series Thread
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Post by blizzards39 on Aug 18, 2024 15:21:00 GMT -5
Split is ok but tough one. 11-3 hits. Yuck. Everybody else won or winning
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Aug 18, 2024 15:21:17 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed how often they've cut the broadcast off sometimes in mid-sentence, to cut to a commercial today? that has been happening all summer. Gotta get the commercial in. lol My wife and I laugh because they constantly cut DOB off Keep this up and eventually the game will interrupt the commercials
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Post by soxfaninnj on Aug 18, 2024 15:21:43 GMT -5
Very winnable game
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Post by incandenza on Aug 18, 2024 15:31:21 GMT -5
This will be 3.5 out of the last wild card, yes? That's a pretty perilous position. But reason, justice, and the world-shaping power of the netflix narrative arc all suggest the Royals should stumble when their schedule turns rough in late August, just when the Red Sox' schedule softens up. The Twins have been overachieving, too, especially given their injuries; they might fall back to earth as well.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Aug 18, 2024 15:33:54 GMT -5
This one is totally on the hitters. Totally. I do question Crawford being pulled with Henderson coming up after K-ing him twice though.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Aug 18, 2024 15:36:11 GMT -5
This will be 3.5 out of the last wild card, yes? That's a pretty perilous position. But reason, justice, and the world-shaping power of the netflix narrative arc all suggest the Royals should stumble when their schedule turns rough in late August, just when the Red Sox' schedule softens up. The Twins have been overachieving, too, especially given their injuries; they might fall back to earth as well. Been waiting months for that Royals fall back. Sox really need a run of .600 + ball and create a surge to over take them.
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Post by asm18 on Aug 18, 2024 15:38:55 GMT -5
This will be 3.5 out of the last wild card, yes? That's a pretty perilous position. But reason, justice, and the world-shaping power of the netflix narrative arc all suggest the Royals should stumble when their schedule turns rough in late August, just when the Red Sox' schedule softens up. The Twins have been overachieving, too, especially given their injuries; they might fall back to earth as well. They’re playing the Reds up 4-1 - Elly De La Cruz was just up with the bases loaded and struck out looking on a ball clearly low. Even the umps not from our games find a way to screw us
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 18, 2024 16:07:20 GMT -5
It's too bad Bello didn't pitch this well at the beginning of the season and Houck and Crawford fell apart in the second half.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 18, 2024 16:09:31 GMT -5
...but can he hit with risp?
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Post by taiwansox on Aug 18, 2024 16:14:23 GMT -5
Rangers helping
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Post by incandenza on Aug 18, 2024 16:16:36 GMT -5
The Red Sox have a 104 wRC+ w/RISP (19th in MLB) compared to 109 overall (9th).
The Royals have a 129 wRC+ w/RISP (2nd in MLB) compared to 99 overall (15th).
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 18, 2024 16:16:43 GMT -5
The Sox, to survive, need to take 1 out of 3 against Houston and then 2 of 3 against Arizona. Finding a way to piss away their chances to win this game was costly.
So if they manage 5-5 on this road trip, they'll probably find themselves 5 games out of the wild card spot.
They'll need to have a big run in them, where they go 15-5 over a few weeks while KC plays .500 or less in that same span.
I feel like the Red Sox still have a big run left in them. I think this team will manage to avoid being bad enough to wind up 78-84, but at this rate 85-77 won't cut it.
I know the pitching has been horrendous, but it's the bullpen that killed them, giving away games against LA, NY, Colorado, Houston, and Texas. Those will be the games that ultimately sank them if they miss the playoffs. I know you can't save them all, but those were egregious.
I know those who said to sell with them just 1 game out at the deadline will take their I told you so's victory laps, and I get it, but when you're just a game out, you need to go after a playoff spot. You can't punt every time you're not 10 games ahead. The Red Sox have had their chances to succeed. They have killed themselves with awful relief pitching and untimely hitting. As great as the offense has been, they haven't really maximized it.
The Sox are going to have to build a team this offseason that projects as a serious contender rather than a fringe contender trying to be the 5th or 6th best team in the league, or else they're always going to leave it to chance.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 18, 2024 16:18:02 GMT -5
...but can he hit with risp? Well, if he can pitch (get outs) with RISP, then that would help. There's a lot of relievers on the team that can't, lol.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 18, 2024 17:32:38 GMT -5
One Rafaela throw from it being a different outcome.
Casas mind thing seems to have an affect, he hasn't missed a beat.
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Post by bluechip on Aug 18, 2024 18:03:01 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed how often they've cut the broadcast off sometimes in mid-sentence, to cut to a commercial today? that has been happening all summer. Gotta get the commercial in. lol My wife and I laugh because they constantly cut DOB off They also sometimes come back late from commercial. Yes I notice.
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Post by finaliz3d on Aug 18, 2024 18:36:11 GMT -5
The Sox, to survive, need to take 1 out of 3 against Houston and then 2 of 3 against Arizona. Finding a way to piss away their chances to win this game was costly. So if they manage 5-5 on this road trip, they'll probably find themselves 5 games out of the wild card spot. They'll need to have a big run in them, where they go 15-5 over a few weeks while KC plays .500 or less in that same span. I feel like the Red Sox still have a big run left in them. I think this team will manage to avoid being bad enough to wind up 78-84, but at this rate 85-77 won't cut it. I know the pitching has been horrendous, but it's the bullpen that killed them, giving away games against LA, NY, Colorado, Houston, and Texas. Those will be the games that ultimately sank them if they miss the playoffs. I know you can't save them all, but those were egregious. I know those who said to sell with them just 1 game out at the deadline will take their I told you so's victory laps, and I get it, but when you're just a game out, you need to go after a playoff spot. You can't punt every time you're not 10 games ahead. The Red Sox have had their chances to succeed. They have killed themselves with awful relief pitching and untimely hitting. As great as the offense has been, they haven't really maximized it. The Sox are going to have to build a team this offseason that projects as a serious contender rather than a fringe contender trying to be the 5th or 6th best team in the league, or else they're always going to leave it to chance. Well, the Royals are on pace to go 21-17, we are on pace to go 20-19. That'd get them to 90 wins and us exactly to 85. We can't afford series losses right now. Even if they falter some with their schedule being tough, there's not much margin for error. I think we need two of three against Houston at minimum, and pretty much need to win every series or tie from here on out.
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Post by art on Aug 18, 2024 19:30:34 GMT -5
that has been happening all summer. Gotta get the commercial in. lol My wife and I laugh because they constantly cut DOB off They also sometimes come back late from commercial. Yes I notice. Do you get your broadcasts through MLB.com? I do and this issue really annoys me. It happens on the radio broadcasts as well as TV. MLB's contract with us is to provide the broadcasts we pay for. In my view, the broadcast includes every word the broadcasters say until the local station cuts for a commercial. I question whether MLB is fulfilling its obligations under the contract with us.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 18, 2024 19:42:49 GMT -5
The Sox, to survive, need to take 1 out of 3 against Houston and then 2 of 3 against Arizona. Finding a way to piss away their chances to win this game was costly. So if they manage 5-5 on this road trip, they'll probably find themselves 5 games out of the wild card spot. They'll need to have a big run in them, where they go 15-5 over a few weeks while KC plays .500 or less in that same span. I feel like the Red Sox still have a big run left in them. I think this team will manage to avoid being bad enough to wind up 78-84, but at this rate 85-77 won't cut it. I know the pitching has been horrendous, but it's the bullpen that killed them, giving away games against LA, NY, Colorado, Houston, and Texas. Those will be the games that ultimately sank them if they miss the playoffs. I know you can't save them all, but those were egregious. I know those who said to sell with them just 1 game out at the deadline will take their I told you so's victory laps, and I get it, but when you're just a game out, you need to go after a playoff spot. You can't punt every time you're not 10 games ahead. The Red Sox have had their chances to succeed. They have killed themselves with awful relief pitching and untimely hitting. As great as the offense has been, they haven't really maximized it. The Sox are going to have to build a team this offseason that projects as a serious contender rather than a fringe contender trying to be the 5th or 6th best team in the league, or else they're always going to leave it to chance. Well, the Royals are on pace to go 21-17, we are on pace to go 20-19. That'd get them to 90 wins and us exactly to 85. We can't afford series losses right now. Even if they falter some with their schedule being tough, there's not much margin for error. I think we need two of three against Houston at minimum, and pretty much need to win every series or tie from here on out. The Sox were on a pace to win 91 games until they suddenly weren't. Paces don't mean as much as getting the job done. At some point I expected the Royals to slip, and they really haven't - at worst they treaded water, but they haven't really hit a big rough patch. All it takes is for them to finally hit one while the Sox have a hot stretch and then suddenly pace doesn't mean much. Of course this requires the Sox not to shoot themselves in the foot with bad pitching, blown leads, bad situational hitting, or poor defense long enough to get hot and it requires KC to finally act like the Royals we've known for years. I thought the Royals were a mid 70s win team when the season started, but they certainly haven't played that way for any long stretch. I feel like they're overdue for a struggle, but at this point we can't count on it. Doesn't mean it can't happen and coincide with a Red Sox revival. Just not feeling particularly great about the Sox right now. Hoping they can manage 5-5, stay within 5 games, and then finally play well again, but I just don't trust the pitching at this point, particularly the pen. Hoping between Kenley, Martin, and Hendriks the Sox can lock down wins in September and hopefully Slaten is back pitching well, too.
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Post by asm18 on Aug 18, 2024 19:58:51 GMT -5
I wonder what our playoff odds would be without the tie-breaker advantage over KC (or next closest competitor Mariners). There’s roughly another two weeks or so until September, and 3.5 down from KC. Unfortunately that’s unlikely to get wiped away in just a series or two, so a reasonable benchmark would seem to be try to get that down to 1 - 1.5 back with a month to go.
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Post by bluechip on Aug 18, 2024 20:09:57 GMT -5
They also sometimes come back late from commercial. Yes I notice. Do you get your broadcasts through MLB.com? I do and this issue really annoys me. It happens on the radio broadcasts as well as TV. MLB's contract with us is to provide the broadcasts we pay for. In my view, the broadcast includes every word the broadcasters say until the local station cuts for a commercial. I question whether MLB is fulfilling its obligations under the contract with us. I watch NESN. It’s also in the cable broadcast.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 18, 2024 20:14:19 GMT -5
Very, very simplistic look at KC vs Bos
KC by numbers
605 runs scored, 496 allowed - run differential +109 Team BA 7th in the AL
Position players by WAR - Witt Jr 8.2, only others above 2 are Fermin and Perez Pitchers by WAR - Ragans 4, Lugo Singer and Wacha above 2. ERA 9th in AL Defense - 59 errors - 6th in AL
Boston
614 runs scored, 589 allowed - run differential +25 Team BA 2nd in the AL
Position players by WAR - Duran 6.6, Devers 4.4, 4 others above 2. Pitchers by WAR - Houck 3.2, no one else at 2 or above. ERA 18th in AL Defense - 89 errors - last in AL
Boston is being let down by its pitching and defense. KC is hitting enough, but pitching and defense are elevating them
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Post by badfishnbc on Aug 18, 2024 20:43:58 GMT -5
You guys should’ve come to the game today. A lot of empty seats.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 18, 2024 20:49:36 GMT -5
You guys should’ve come to the game today. A lot of empty seats. It was evident on TV. Such a beautiful stadium and a young exciting team - mystifying why they can't fill those seats. We went to some games when we lived in Philly and Raleigh. Fun experience!
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Aug 18, 2024 20:57:44 GMT -5
Well, the Royals are on pace to go 21-17, we are on pace to go 20-19. That'd get them to 90 wins and us exactly to 85. We can't afford series losses right now. Even if they falter some with their schedule being tough, there's not much margin for error. I think we need two of three against Houston at minimum, and pretty much need to win every series or tie from here on out. The Sox were on a pace to win 91 games until they suddenly weren't. Paces don't mean as much as getting the job done. At some point I expected the Royals to slip, and they really haven't - at worst they treaded water, but they haven't really hit a big rough patch. All it takes is for them to finally hit one while the Sox have a hot stretch and then suddenly pace doesn't mean much. Of course this requires the Sox not to shoot themselves in the foot with bad pitching, blown leads, bad situational hitting, or poor defense long enough to get hot and it requires KC to finally act like the Royals we've known for years. I thought the Royals were a mid 70s win team when the season started, but they certainly haven't played that way for any long stretch. I feel like they're overdue for a struggle, but at this point we can't count on it. Doesn't mean it can't happen and coincide with a Red Sox revival. Just not feeling particularly great about the Sox right now. Hoping they can manage 5-5, stay within 5 games, and then finally play well again, but I just don't trust the pitching at this point, particularly the pen. Hoping between Kenley, Martin, and Hendriks the Sox can lock down wins in September and hopefully Slaten is back pitching well, too. After their upcoming series w/ the Angels, they play 20 games against the Phillies, Guardians, Astros, Twins and MFY. That’s a really tough run. I think we will have a very good idea of the Sox’s chances come Sept. 1st.
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Post by asm18 on Aug 18, 2024 21:06:31 GMT -5
To add to dirtywaterinla’s point, per Tankathon: Royals have 2nd toughest schedule rest of the way (.528 winning percentage). Red Sox have dropped to 14th, with much of the potency having been in this stretch. Survive this trip to Minute Maid.. www.tankathon.com/mlb/remaining_schedule_strength
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