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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 26, 2024 20:32:07 GMT -5
This is now a team whose collective heads are NOT in the game at all. This is the backbreaker day. The team is toast.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 26, 2024 20:32:24 GMT -5
Good Lawd !! Why am I watching this ? Bro, this is fantastic. HAHAHAHAHA
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Post by ixnayexxus on Aug 26, 2024 20:32:25 GMT -5
They're like a bunch of newborn fawns out there right now
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 26, 2024 20:33:31 GMT -5
I would like to give Brad Keller some credit for withstanding the early onslaught and not given up a ten spot like KB
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Post by notstarboard on Aug 26, 2024 20:34:18 GMT -5
Gonna be pissed if they trade Jarren, he’s the only clutch hitter on this team Two real choices here Choice 1: He’s also arbitration eligible on a team that needs to add young cost controlled talent. I don't think this team will pay him and his value might never be higher than this offseason. Unless he wants to take a team friendly deal, get a few top end prospects and gear up for 2027. Choice 2: Unless of course they want to invest in the club and sign a top end starter. In that case, give him a big extension, buy out some FA years and build around him in the outfield. But don’t let this get to arbitration every single year. Choice 3: Keep him and don't extend him unless it's team friendly.
His game is based on speed and speed usually doesn't age that well. He'll also have just finished his age 31 season when he hits free agency. For the foreseeable future, though, the team needs players exactly like Jarren. He takes up a single roster spot and just churns out value. They have plenty of 1-2 WAR guys. They need to be bringing in impact players or they won't improve, so I don't get trading Jarren away unless you're getting, say, another 7 WAR player at a position of greater need (which is never happening). He isn't a free agent until 2029 and the team has plenty of payroll flexibility; there is zero need to trade him just because he's in arb.
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Post by finaliz3d on Aug 26, 2024 20:34:38 GMT -5
This is like watching a train wreck that you can't stop and then somehow it just keeps managing to get worse.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 26, 2024 20:35:04 GMT -5
Best part of the whole day is listening to the 2 Portland broadcasters. Well done. The opposite of Papelbon, the opposite of Millar.
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Post by taiwansox on Aug 26, 2024 20:36:22 GMT -5
We need a Mother’s Day miracle to save this season
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Post by asm18 on Aug 26, 2024 20:36:50 GMT -5
I would like to give Brad Keller some credit for withstanding the early onslaught and not given up a ten spot like KB If Refsnyder could catch a merely mildly difficult pop fly he only gives up 4 runs? Like he had a legit terrible inning that you could see coming from a mile away, but the at bats against Jose Berrios were hot garbage
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Post by soxpatsceltics on Aug 26, 2024 20:36:51 GMT -5
Yeah I might double down on this defense being a coaching issue. How many defensive success stories has this team developed under Cora? Abreu and Duran (took 3 years) and Rafaela although he was elite in the minors. Vets have regressed (o'neill, yoshida, devers) and all of the young prospects are playing below their scouting report as defenders (valdez, casas, wong, hamilton)
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Post by TearsIn04 on Aug 26, 2024 20:37:48 GMT -5
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Post by Darwin's Curve on Aug 26, 2024 20:37:59 GMT -5
The early 90s teams got me onto B-ref. . .and today is Carlos Quintana's birthday.
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Post by ephus on Aug 26, 2024 20:38:00 GMT -5
Thank God for the DSL Red Sox (Red)!
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Post by rhswanzey on Aug 26, 2024 20:38:06 GMT -5
Yeah I might double down on this defense being a coaching issue. How many defensive success stories has this team developed under Cora? Abreu and Duran (took 3 years) and Rafaela although he was elite in the minors. Vets have regressed (o'neill, yoshida, devers) and all of the young prospects are playing below their scouting report as defenders (valdez, casas, wong, hamilton) It’s still Carlos Febles’ fault… somehow!
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Post by asm18 on Aug 26, 2024 20:38:30 GMT -5
Mickey Gasper game tying grand slam incoming
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Post by taiwansox on Aug 26, 2024 20:39:53 GMT -5
O’Neil has been terrible since coming back
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Post by dirtdog on Aug 26, 2024 20:41:01 GMT -5
Raffy has fallen off a cliff this month. Does he need surgery or something?
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Post by incandenza on Aug 26, 2024 20:41:17 GMT -5
[watches these games] [squints thoughtfully] [snaps fingers]
"I've got it! They need to get rid of Duran."
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 26, 2024 20:41:19 GMT -5
There are two areas of concern for this team - one is fundamental baseball (defensive miscues, baserunning miscues, approach at bat with men on base). This has been going on for years - even the 2019 team played like they had a debilitating hangover. The other is talent level. The current active roster has some marginal or very young, needing more time talent with a few established players. The pitching staff is an unspeakable mess.
I am pretty shocked about the first, and raises doubts about Cora and his coaches' ability to reach the players and establish expected standards. As for the second - it is what it is - and very complex (organizational's desire to spend, drafting and acquisition decisions, etc).
It is easy to get excited about the talent coming up - we all know the names. But without adequate and effective pitching...does it matter?
Something's gotta give.
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Post by wildsox on Aug 26, 2024 20:41:46 GMT -5
The Jays might actually catch and pass us
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Post by asm18 on Aug 26, 2024 20:43:55 GMT -5
At least the ace of the staff pitches tomorrow
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Post by cdj on Aug 26, 2024 20:43:58 GMT -5
More time to use my regal cinemas movie pass (nbd) now that we are toast. I think I’ll see The Crow remake tomorrow, something angsty to match the vibe
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 26, 2024 20:44:35 GMT -5
O’Neil has been terrible since coming backFTFY (kidding). At this point, I just have to keep it light, to not go insane.
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Post by taiwansox on Aug 26, 2024 20:44:58 GMT -5
This team might be worse than last year’s team, it’s 3 straight years of worse pitching. This pitching staff might be worse than chicken and beer…
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 26, 2024 20:47:32 GMT -5
Last year the Barraclough disaster was August 28. We beat it by 2 days this year - August 26.
If the managerial change wakes Seattle up, with their pitching, they could soon have a better record than the Sox.
First game - 11Ks, 2 errors, 0-3 risp, 6 lob Second game - 7Ks, 4 errors - that was the killer.
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