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Post by Darwin's Curve on Aug 27, 2024 12:47:10 GMT -5
Just read that their record is 2 games worse than last year. Hard to believe. Since they do not appear like they ar going to make the playoffs - again- it may be time to hope they fall behind other teams like the Tigers, Mariners and Rays so thy can get better draft picks. Very disappointing. In addition to the roster overhaul they need, I agree with those who say they need to look closely at why all the late season collapses.The training, medical and nutrition aspects all need to be reviewed. I know other teams are also having a lot of injuries, but they need to do everything possible to give their players the best chance to stay on the field and to not fade in the second half.. Seems like they have a lot of hamstring injuries and I don't ever remember another player with the type of injury Casas had.. This year per fangraphs they have the 11th best position player WAR and 14th best pitching WAR. Through 8/27/23 they were 17th in position player WAR and 19th in pitching WAR, and we know how poorly the last month of the season went so their finishes were even worse than that. They have improved this year and I would even say they’ve improved substantially, but a couple of things that don’t show up on the WAR leaderboard are timing related. The Red Sox have been horrible with RISP the whole year (and no, that is not predictive of future results) and their bullpen has found every possible way to lose (shows up more in WPA). Weaknesses in the lineup were 2B (28th in fWAR), C (25th), and 1B (22nd). Casas will take care of the 1B issue, and hopefully some combo of Story/Campbell/Grissom can remedy 2B. Catcher is a tough call because Cora seems to love Wong, but xwOBA says he’s a well below average hitter getting lucky this year and he’s been horrible defensively. I’m hoping they bring DJ back and ship Wong out for a reliever, but not holding my breath. Yeah, that pretty much puts to bed any argument that Cora wasn't given a better team. The RISP issue might actually be predictive though. The Sox have emphasized a certain way of hitting and it's been good enough to produce a top-5 offense in the AL. The question is whether the high number of stranded runners is an artifact of their approach, or whether it shouldn't be happening (i.e., that approach should be scoring more runs.)
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Aug 27, 2024 12:49:24 GMT -5
Of course I am stating the obvious, but it is really time for the Sox to win some games. If the following occurs the rest of the way;
Sox 20-11 Twins 15-16
That is a tie between the 2 teams. (Tie breaker TBD) If the twins play over ..500 the rest of the way this becomes almost unachievable...
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Post by asm18 on Aug 27, 2024 12:55:48 GMT -5
Of course I am stating the obvious, but it is really time for the Sox to win some games. If the following occurs the rest of the way; Sox 20-11 Twins 15-16 That is a tie between the 2 teams. (Tie breaker TBD) If the twins play over ..500 the rest of the way this becomes almost unachievable... Yeah if even we sweep them a few weeks from now that alone doesn’t close the gap of 5 games. Need a little bit of help Take it a game at a time I guess
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Post by 0ap0 on Aug 27, 2024 13:43:33 GMT -5
You have to go to #20 on the Sox Prospects list to find someone who's been alive as long as Rich Hill's been a professional pitcher.
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Post by pappyman99 on Aug 27, 2024 13:57:37 GMT -5
Of course I am stating the obvious, but it is really time for the Sox to win some games. If the following occurs the rest of the way; Sox 20-11 Twins 15-16 That is a tie between the 2 teams. (Tie breaker TBD) If the twins play over ..500 the rest of the way this becomes almost unachievable... Let’s just go 24-7
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Aug 27, 2024 14:10:50 GMT -5
Of course I am stating the obvious, but it is really time for the Sox to win some games. If the following occurs the rest of the way; Sox 20-11 Twins 15-16 That is a tie between the 2 teams. (Tie breaker TBD) If the twins play over ..500 the rest of the way this becomes almost unachievable... Let’s just go 24-7 We would sure be feared in the playoffs if we did !!
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Post by Darwin's Curve on Aug 27, 2024 14:25:01 GMT -5
Of course I am stating the obvious, but it is really time for the Sox to win some games. If the following occurs the rest of the way; Sox 20-11 Twins 15-16 That is a tie between the 2 teams. (Tie breaker TBD) If the twins play over ..500 the rest of the way this becomes almost unachievable... Yeah if even we sweep them a few weeks from now that alone doesn’t close the gap of 5 games. Need a little bit of help Take it a game at a time I guess The 3 head to head games v. MIN could certainly help. I'm guessing between KCR and MIN, MIN are more likely to have the wheels come off in September. Pablo Lopez seems to be their only reliable starter who is under his normal innings threshold. Complete feelgood cherry-picking here, but MIN are 2-6 over their last 8. (And the NYYs weren't involved at all.)
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Post by ixnayexxus on Aug 27, 2024 14:27:36 GMT -5
As of now, we are over a game closer to Toronto in the standings than we are to either Wildcard team, let's put a stop to that nonsense tonight
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Post by patford on Aug 27, 2024 14:47:20 GMT -5
We would sure be feared in the playoffs if we did !! 0-31 would be better.
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Post by shagworthy on Aug 27, 2024 15:42:17 GMT -5
At the end of the day, as bad as it has been, our Sox could be White.
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 27, 2024 15:45:23 GMT -5
Lucas Sims to the IL with a lat Brad Keller DFA Weissert back
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 27, 2024 15:45:48 GMT -5
At the end of the day, as bad as it has been, our Sox could be White. And reinsdorf could be our owner.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 27, 2024 15:47:54 GMT -5
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Post by shagworthy on Aug 27, 2024 16:02:32 GMT -5
At the end of the day, as bad as it has been, our Sox could be White. And reinsdorf could be our owner. Or Arte Moreano. Silver linings.
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Post by shagworthy on Aug 27, 2024 16:05:29 GMT -5
Fast Forward to 2078, on his 98th Birthday Hill pitches 4 innings in a split squad spring training game and dies after the manager takes him out.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 27, 2024 16:27:23 GMT -5
so many damn injures
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 27, 2024 16:28:11 GMT -5
Fast Forward to 2078, on his 98th Birthday Hill pitches 4 innings in a split squad spring training game and dies after the manager takes him out. That's not too far off of what happened to Bill Lee. At 75 years old he was warming up to pitch for the Savannah Bananas, keeled over, and almost died, but thankfully he was revived and he walked off the field 10 minutes later. And I'm sure he has pitched in some capacity since then. The Spaceman will literally pitch until he drops.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 27, 2024 16:30:49 GMT -5
Also. Devers has been playing thru an injury
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Post by shagworthy on Aug 27, 2024 16:38:26 GMT -5
Fast Forward to 2078, on his 98th Birthday Hill pitches 4 innings in a split squad spring training game and dies after the manager takes him out. That's not too far off of what happened to Bill Lee. At 75 years old he was warming up to pitch for the Savannah Bananas, keeled over, and almost died, but thankfully he was revived and he walked off the field 10 minutes later. And I'm sure he has pitched in some capacity since then. The Spaceman will literally pitch until he drops. Bill Lee is an American Institution. I love that man with all my heart.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 27, 2024 16:54:10 GMT -5
Lucas Sims lands on the IL with a right lat strain.
This is getting humorous at this point. I would not be shocked to see Wally end up on the IL at this point
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 27, 2024 17:04:42 GMT -5
People are going to love coming back to that Garcia trade if anyone of the guys they gave up ever made it and I want to preemptively call BS because I don't think they wanted to protect any of them from the Rule 5 draft anyway.
Now if Ovis Portes makes it, feel free to get mad about Lucas Sims.
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Post by ephus on Aug 27, 2024 17:18:16 GMT -5
Baseball is fun!
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 27, 2024 17:19:31 GMT -5
This just in: Devers and cases have fallen down the Springfield mystery spot
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Post by incandenza on Aug 27, 2024 17:20:35 GMT -5
People are going to love coming back to that Garcia trade if anyone of the guys they gave up ever made it and I want to preemptively call BS because I don't think they wanted to protect any of them from the Rule 5 draft anyway.Now if Ovis Portes makes it, feel free to get mad about Lucas Sims. Probably true, but it would just push their error of judgment one step back: if Matthew Lugo turns into Josh Reddick or Zeferjahn turns into Ryan Pressly or Kavadas turns into DAVID ORTIZ then it would not demonstrate great things about their talent evaluation that they weren't even going to protect them.
(Niko update: he is 1-24 with 1 HR, 3 walks, and 14 K's.)
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Aug 27, 2024 17:24:03 GMT -5
So is the plan to have Hill piggyback Criswell tonight?
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