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Post by taiwansox on Sept 2, 2024 19:23:14 GMT -5
Wong needs to be benched this is terrible
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Post by incandenza on Sept 2, 2024 19:25:00 GMT -5
Cora thinks Yoshida is unplayable in left field, meanwhile has he been watching O'Neil all year? O'Neill and Refsnyder have combined for -5 OAA in about 680 innings in LF. Yoshida was -8 in 713 innings last year.
Worse for Yoshida but not by much; certainly not "Yoshida must never set foot on the grass under any circumstances" worse.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Sept 2, 2024 19:25:34 GMT -5
Fun.
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 2, 2024 19:26:24 GMT -5
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Post by bluechip on Sept 2, 2024 19:26:32 GMT -5
Valdez is very close to being removed from the 40 man roster and may never see the majors again. Not a guy should be hesitating about running out a grounder.
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 2, 2024 19:26:33 GMT -5
Honestly all the pitching issues start behind the plate, lost called strikes with bad framing, bad pitch calling. This needs to be priority number one this off-season, I don’t care what talent we bring in, you’re going to have this crap continue. CVaz wasn’t amazing but we somehow got worse behind the plate
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Sept 2, 2024 19:29:22 GMT -5
Watching the Red Sox I agree more with Plankton at the moment.
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Post by asm18 on Sept 2, 2024 19:30:48 GMT -5
If you’re going to take your sweet time to get to the ball the least you can do is fucking hold onto it Statcast agrees with my eyes. His range is bad. They need someone to establish himself at short so Raffy can move to Center and Duran to left. Guys like ONeill have been killing them. It’s incredibly stark how much his speed and defense has fallen off. TON has a 193 wRC+ vs lefties and 101 wRC+ vs righties. That lefty number is legit insane, but on days where he faces righties… how far above replacement level is he?
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Post by incandenza on Sept 2, 2024 19:33:33 GMT -5
Honestly all the pitching issues start behind the plate, lost called strikes with bad framing, bad pitch calling. This needs to be priority number one this off-season, I don’t care what talent we bring in, you’re going to have this crap continue. CVaz wasn’t amazing but we somehow got worse behind the plate Are we sure the issue with game-calling is Wong and not Varitek/Breslow/Cora? Or if Wong is that bad at it maybe they should be calling the games from the dugout?
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 2, 2024 19:34:47 GMT -5
Offense status: still dead
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Post by dirtdog on Sept 2, 2024 19:36:36 GMT -5
The book is out on Rafaela. He will definitely chase.
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 2, 2024 19:36:54 GMT -5
Honestly all the pitching issues start behind the plate, lost called strikes with bad framing, bad pitch calling. This needs to be priority number one this off-season, I don’t care what talent we bring in, you’re going to have this crap continue. CVaz wasn’t amazing but we somehow got worse behind the plate Are we sure the issue with game-calling is Wong and not Varitek/Breslow/Cora? Or if Wong is that bad at it maybe they should be calling the games from the dugout? Even simple things like where he sets his glove up, there’s no instincts behind the plate. We’ve had Varitek, Ross, Cash, Leon, not like we haven’t had competent catching before, but we’ve also had butchers like Saltalamacchia (Farrell benching him in 2013 was maybe one of the best things he ever did as manager). Pudge Rodriguez had a huge impact on the 2003 Marlins/Tigers teams, but we don’t even need that, we need some baseline competency here…
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 2, 2024 19:38:23 GMT -5
Are we sure the issue with game-calling is Wong and not Varitek/Breslow/Cora? Or if Wong is that bad at it maybe they should be calling the games from the dugout? Even simple things like where he sets his glove up, there’s no instincts behind the plate. We’ve had Varitek, Ross, Cash, Leon, not like we haven’t had competent catching before, but we’ve also had butchers like Saltalamacchia (Farrell benching him in 2013 was maybe one of the best things he ever did as manager). Pudge Rodriguez had a huge impact on the 2003 Marlins/Tigers teams, but we don’t even need that, we need some baseline competency here… He was fine at the start of the season.
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Post by asm18 on Sept 2, 2024 19:38:47 GMT -5
Can they send Steph down to the clubhouse to pump up the team
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 2, 2024 19:40:18 GMT -5
Even simple things like where he sets his glove up, there’s no instincts behind the plate. We’ve had Varitek, Ross, Cash, Leon, not like we haven’t had competent catching before, but we’ve also had butchers like Saltalamacchia (Farrell benching him in 2013 was maybe one of the best things he ever did as manager). Pudge Rodriguez had a huge impact on the 2003 Marlins/Tigers teams, but we don’t even need that, we need some baseline competency here… He was fine at the start of the season. Not really, he was just throwing out every runner under the Sun and hitting .350+, but between his framing and blocking he’s a net negative behind the plate. He’s a good utility player, but not a starting catcher
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Post by incandenza on Sept 2, 2024 19:43:34 GMT -5
Even simple things like where he sets his glove up, there’s no instincts behind the plate. We’ve had Varitek, Ross, Cash, Leon, not like we haven’t had competent catching before, but we’ve also had butchers like Saltalamacchia (Farrell benching him in 2013 was maybe one of the best things he ever did as manager). Pudge Rodriguez had a huge impact on the 2003 Marlins/Tigers teams, but we don’t even need that, we need some baseline competency here… He was fine at the start of the season. It sure seems to me like he's tiring again. Last year it was because of McGuire's injury and the team not having any other options; this year they went and got another catcher at the trade deadline and just... aren't playing him that much. Really, Wong should be treated as the backup at this point, just for his own sake.
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Post by asm18 on Sept 2, 2024 19:53:41 GMT -5
Tigers down 2-0 to the Padres with 2 RBI’s from Luis Arraez. He just had a situation where he was up with 1st and 3rd and 0 outs and he had an 0-2 count. That’s gotta be the greatest feeling in the world having him up there in spot and knowing the ball is gonna be in play
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Post by Darwin's Curve on Sept 2, 2024 19:56:36 GMT -5
Well, if they hit it hard and in the air, it counts on some spreadsheet somewhere, right?
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Post by incandenza on Sept 2, 2024 19:59:19 GMT -5
Well, if they hit it hard and in the air, it counts on some spreadsheet somewhere, right? They didn't actually do that in that inning though. 89, 81, 91mph..
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 2, 2024 19:59:23 GMT -5
101 errors so far - and countless brain fart mistakes - this season. Jet lag game? Uninterested?
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Post by Darwin's Curve on Sept 2, 2024 20:02:21 GMT -5
Ouch - well, at least Valdez does not have a glass jaw.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 2, 2024 20:02:21 GMT -5
Tigers down 2-0 to the Padres with 2 RBI’s from Luis Arraez. He just had a situation where he was up with 1st and 3rd and 0 outs and he had an 0-2 count. That’s gotta be the greatest feeling in the world having him up there in spot and knowing the ball is gonna be in play Ha, his stats keep getting sillier. 3.5% BB rate, 4.5% K rate, .074 ISO. The classic zero true outcomes hitter.
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Post by dirtdog on Sept 2, 2024 20:05:37 GMT -5
101 errors so far - and countless brain fart mistakes - this season. Jet lag game? Uninterested? Scrap heap, reclamation, throw stuff against the wall to see what sticks type rosters of the last 6 years seem to regress to the mean same time every year. August time frame. Hopefully the last 6 years starts to pay off next spring.
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Post by asm18 on Sept 2, 2024 20:09:18 GMT -5
I don’t expect a comeback here but can we at least show a pulse at the plate
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 2, 2024 20:10:50 GMT -5
Offense still dead
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