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9/2-9/4 Red Sox @ Mets Series Thread
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Post by ramireja on Sept 2, 2024 11:24:06 GMT -5
9/2 Red Sox (RHP Brayan Bello, 12-6, 4.66, 137.0 IP, 131K:52BB) @ Mets (RHP Luis Severino, 9-6, 3.96, 152.1 IP, 131K:52BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 9/3 Red Sox (RHP Kutter Crawford, 8-12, 4.12, 155.0 IP, 141K:42BB) @ Mets (LHP David Peterson, 8-1, 2.83, 92.1 IP, 70K:39BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN, TBS/WEEI 9/4 Red Sox (RHP Tanner Houck, 8-9, 3.12, 164.2 IP, 143K:46BB) @ Mets (RHP Tylor Megill, 3-5, 4.82, 52.1 IP, 61K:23BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2024: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 2, 2024 11:31:47 GMT -5
Embrace it bros.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 2, 2024 11:49:15 GMT -5
I can't get over the fact that Steve Cohen wanted to give Alonso $158 million and he turned it down. Latest word is that he and Boras are looking for more than $200 million. Back on Earth, his remaining career WAR projection is going to be pretty similar to what Teoscar Hernandez' was last offseason; fangraphs projected him to get 3/45 and he ultimately signed for 1/20.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Sept 2, 2024 11:49:51 GMT -5
I really like that we have our home grown core of starting pitchers going this series. We need strong Septembers from each to make the post season and theoretically the Mets are a much tougher foe than the one that follows. Love watching each pitch. Get game one Brayan !!!!
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Post by asm18 on Sept 2, 2024 12:18:23 GMT -5
The Mets are 11th in MLB in runs scored, 10th in wRC+ (110), and 6th in HR’s. They’re middle of the pack or worse when it comes to the pitching department. They are 1 game out of the NL Wild Card, despite ace Kodai Senga pitching literally a single inning this year.
I wonder what Steve Cohen expected for this season, because they did a bunch of cheap 1 year deals (Severino, Manaea, JD Martinez) and if he knew they’d be this close to the playoffs on September 2 maybe they throw more money around?
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Post by manfred on Sept 2, 2024 12:28:22 GMT -5
Embrace it bros. I don’t really know if this is a season that should or can be tanked. There are 13 teams behind them, I think, and a tank likely wouldn’t “catch” that many. I’d rather let it fly and hope for a miracle. I am not worried about the difference between picking 10th or 14th.
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Post by cdj on Sept 2, 2024 12:29:21 GMT -5
I can't get over the fact that Steve Cohen wanted to give Alonso $158 million and he turned it down. Latest word is that he and Boras are looking for more than $200 million. Back on Earth, his remaining career WAR projection is going to be pretty similar to what Teoscar Hernandez' was last offseason; fangraphs projected him to get 3/45 and he ultimately signed for 1/20. He’s merely a souped up CJ Cron I’m afraid
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Post by incandenza on Sept 2, 2024 12:39:40 GMT -5
I don’t really know if this is a season that should or can be tanked. There are 13 teams behind them, I think, and a tank likely wouldn’t “catch” that many. I’d rather let it fly and hope for a miracle. I am not worried about the difference between picking 10th or 14th. The desire to tank before actually being eliminated belongs to the mindset of children and cowards. Having said that... They're currently in position to draft 16th at 70-67. The White Sox and A's are locked into 10th and 11th position, and Tampa Bay is 9th at 67-69. So they're only 2 1/2 games out of a top-10 pick.
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Post by asm18 on Sept 2, 2024 12:42:56 GMT -5
I don’t really know if this is a season that should or can be tanked. There are 13 teams behind them, I think, and a tank likely wouldn’t “catch” that many. I’d rather let it fly and hope for a miracle. I am not worried about the difference between picking 10th or 14th. The desire to tank before actually being eliminated belongs to the mindset of children and cowards. Having said that... They're currently in position to draft 16th at 70-67. The White Sox and A's are locked into 10th and 11th position, and Tampa Bay is 9th at 67-69. So they're only 2 1/2 games out of a top-10 pick. Give it a week. If in 7 days we’ve just finished getting our asses kicked by the White Sox at home then sure - IL Devers, put the young starters in bubble wrap, and have Rich Hill, Josh Winckowski, and Bobby Dalbec be the starting pitchers for every game. Not there though… yet
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Sept 2, 2024 12:54:04 GMT -5
I can't get over the fact that Steve Cohen wanted to give Alonso $158 million and he turned it down. Latest word is that he and Boras are looking for more than $200 million. Back on Earth, his remaining career WAR projection is going to be pretty similar to what Teoscar Hernandez' was last offseason; fangraphs projected him to get 3/45 and he ultimately signed for 1/20. I remember Garciaparra turning down $64,000,000 over 4 years extension to stay with Boston after 2004 (I believe it would have been one of the larger salaries at the time). We all know he was traded in 2004, and he ended up making $32,750,000 from the Cubs and Dodgers over that same four year period. Oops….someone gave him bad advice.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Sept 2, 2024 13:03:14 GMT -5
Weird year:
Remaining 2024 road series ALE and current record in those parks in 2024: MFY 2-1 TB 3-0 Tor 3-0
Remaining 2024 home series ALE and current record in 2024:
Bal 0-3 TB 1-2
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 2, 2024 13:22:00 GMT -5
I don’t really know if this is a season that should or can be tanked. There are 13 teams behind them, I think, and a tank likely wouldn’t “catch” that many. I’d rather let it fly and hope for a miracle. I am not worried about the difference between picking 10th or 14th. The desire to tank before actually being eliminated belongs to the mindset of children and cowards. Having said that... They're currently in position to draft 16th at 70-67. The White Sox and A's are locked into 10th and 11th position, and Tampa Bay is 9th at 67-69. So they're only 2 1/2 games out of a top-10 pick. The tank stuff sounds silly to me, as if what we hope for or don't hope for actually controls what is happening or is going to happen. Fact of the matter is that the Sox have sucked since the all-star break and have played themselves out of a playoff spot that was there for the taking. Hoping they lose every game is as effective as hoping they win every game. What difference does it make? They're going to do what they're going to do. Personally, if they're not going to the playoffs I don't care what they do. They can lose every damn game for all I care, but wishing upon it matters little. They're not "tanking". They're sucking. "Tanking" implies that a team is trying to lose on purpose and I doubt the Sox are losing because they want to or don't care. They're a mistake prone, pitching lacking, fundamentally flawed team, not one that doesn't give effort.
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Post by bishop on Sept 2, 2024 15:09:05 GMT -5
I don’t really know if this is a season that should or can be tanked. There are 13 teams behind them, I think, and a tank likely wouldn’t “catch” that many. I’d rather let it fly and hope for a miracle. I am not worried about the difference between picking 10th or 14th. The desire to tank before actually being eliminated belongs to the mindset of children and cowards. Having said that... They're currently in position to draft 16th at 70-67. The White Sox and A's are locked into 10th and 11th position, and Tampa Bay is 9th at 67-69. So they're only 2 1/2 games out of a top-10 pick. Yeah but two times is a trend so we'll get a borderline top 5 pick to fall to us whether we pick 10th, 14th, even 18th right? 😉
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 2, 2024 15:24:05 GMT -5
I can never comprehend a Red Sox team intentionally tanking. It just so happens that they kinda suck now and then. Autotank option?
Anyway - will watch the games, hope we will, root for the team - as I have for many decades.
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Post by asm18 on Sept 2, 2024 15:33:45 GMT -5
Duran CF Abreu RF O’Neill LF Devers 3B Casas 1B Yoshida DH Wong C Valdez 2B Rafaela SS
I never feel great about Valdez in front of a sinker baller, but we need some boom boom so why not I guess
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Post by rhswanzey on Sept 2, 2024 15:35:35 GMT -5
Jose Iglesias is hitting .316/.368/.446 in 193 PA (131 wRC+). Dang, we really could have used this guy last season. And apparently this season, for that matter.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 2, 2024 16:41:37 GMT -5
Got some good college friends that are Mets fans. Often a great alliance against MFY fans, but we have to disrupt their run. I apologized to them, in advance, for the sweep.
However, when I think of the 2024 Sox, some great fun this year, but this song reflexively pops into my head.
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Post by dirtdog on Sept 2, 2024 16:46:57 GMT -5
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Post by asm18 on Sept 2, 2024 17:02:49 GMT -5
Old friend JD Martinez not in the lineup tonight for the Mets because of paternity leave
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 2, 2024 17:03:08 GMT -5
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 2, 2024 17:38:32 GMT -5
although this is factual, what does it say ?
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 2, 2024 17:39:48 GMT -5
although this is factual, what does it say ? The entire al east is a dumpster fire
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Post by finaliz3d on Sept 2, 2024 17:42:18 GMT -5
Woo... I guess?
Here are the standings since the start of July:
Blue Jays 28-27
Yankees: 25-26 Red Sox: 26-27
Rays: 25-27
Orioles: 26-28
And since the start of August:
Blue Jays: 16-13
Yankees: 14-13
Orioles: 14-15 Red Sox: 13-16 Rays: 12-16
What does it mean? Absolutely nothing. All of the AL East teams have basically just been extremely mediocre to bad since June is all I've learned. But it doesn't matter because the Yankees and Orioles did something worth a damn in April and May. There aren't any bad teams in this division except maybe the Rays now that they have lost a good number of guys, but they'll probably be the same old Rays and come out next year fine, and the Blue Jays conversely have figured it out after losing a good number of people. The good news is, it's also hard to look at any of these teams and say they are great teams, even if on paper the Orioles should be much better than they are.
Next year, assuming we make the right moves, we can win this division next year, we just have to not screw up the offseason. (I'm giving Breslow a mulligan on last year's offseason since he came in at the last minute and kind of had to do his best, trade deadline has been a series of unfortunate events, although I still do really like the Priester for Yorke trade, and while none of them have worked out, I don't really believe any of them will hurt in the long run, and getting Danny Jansen, who's cold as hell but is really solid defensively is nice).
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Sept 2, 2024 17:55:34 GMT -5
although this is factual, what does it say ? There is not a single team with a .600 record for the year. The hot teams earlier this season (MFY, Bal, Dodgers, Phil…) have all performed under .500 for long enough for their records to moderate. At this rate the top win total for any team this year may be 96 wins or less. There is no overwhelming favorite to win the World Series, IMO. All the teams are flawed or have injuries or both. Like usual, the hottest team in the post season will probably win the WS.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 2, 2024 18:14:30 GMT -5
8 pitch inning. Way to common lately
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