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Post by sibbysisti on May 24, 2014 13:05:34 GMT -5
OT I know, but I couldn't help but pass on this story about another Marrero, Connie, who passed away last month at the age of 102. Hope the link works.
reuters.com/article/2014/04/23/us-cuba-death-marrero-idusbrea3m1. If not google Connie Marrero. Great baseball story.
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Post by dewey1972 on May 25, 2014 19:52:49 GMT -5
These decisions aren't made in a vacuum by a computer. They do have to consider development and mindset for both Bogaerts and Marrero. They absolutely cannot risk screwing Bogaerts up by bouncing him around and giving him any reason to doubt himself. And they aren't going to put Marrero in the majors at any point this year unless they're 20 games under .500 and there are zero expectations for anyone on the field. I am in agreement. I think Bogaerts is in an evaluation stage, and should stay at SS this year. My comments are more to the theory that Bogaerts may hit 25-30 HR's one day, and that is not typical of a SS so we have to keep him there come hell or high water. If we were trying to make the team better today it is not from promoting Marrero, it is signing Drew and moving Bogaerts over, but that is something the brass is pretty adamantly against. I just don't agree with the theory that Marrero, and as I would argue Betts, are blocked at SS because Bogaerts is there. Handling the position is much different than thriving at it. Hey maybe Bogaerts turns into Tulo, a guy who hits bombs and plays a great defensive short stop. If that is the case no one is going to move him, but that isn't something anyone is projecting. I think one thing that got missed in the discussion about Bogaerts' defense is that many would argue that having him stay at shortstop doesn't necessarily maximize his value. They would argue that if he can play decent defense at short, he can play exceptional defense at third, and that defensive value is accrued by both the value of the position (obviously, shortstops impact the game more than third basemen) AND the level of the defense relative to his peers (and Bogaerts would be much better relative to his peers at third). There are certainly aspects of playing third that are different than playing short, but the skills are similar enough that it's most likely that if we think he can get to be an average or even slightly below average shortstop, he would likely be a plus defender at third.
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Post by moonstone2 on May 25, 2014 21:14:10 GMT -5
The name of the game is to maximize the total value of short and third which will be Bogarts and player x.
The question then becomes if Marrero is the best player x given both the large payroll capacity of the team and Bogart's ability to play SS.
I personally believe the answer to this is no. But then I really believe in Bogart's defense. I believe that he's much better than he's shown thus far.
If that's the case player X almost certainly has to be a 3B. I don't see how you get to the highest possible value for the two positions if he is not.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 26, 2014 16:36:07 GMT -5
Chris Crawford at one point wrote that Jackie Bradley was a 60 defender and threw a grade on Henry Owens' pretty much non-existent slider. So... yeah.
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Post by radiohix on May 27, 2014 8:19:47 GMT -5
Marrero strikes out at 22.5% of his PAs, for a 23(soon to be 24) years old college player in his 3rd year in the Minors, that's concerning.
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