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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 10, 2013 8:14:59 GMT -5
Any chance workman starts and doubront is the lefty in the pen? No. A) They said Workman is in the bullpen pretty clearly, and B) Doubront has been good since mid-May. Why would they move him from the rotation? No offense to the kid Webster, but he hasn't had much success, with the exception of his 1st start and some vs the offensively challenged Padres. One has to wonder how long the team can stick with him before thinking of bringing up another option (RDLR), even this option of Workman that now seems to have been nixed for the time being at least. |
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Post by elguapo on Jul 10, 2013 9:33:21 GMT -5
I'd like to see Workman used as a long reliever and actually pitch for 3+ inning stints, and not just in low leverage situations. Piggyback Webster or Doubront or something like that.
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Post by honkbal on Jul 10, 2013 10:00:42 GMT -5
I'd like to see Workman used as a long reliever and actually pitch for 3+ inning stints, and not just in low leverage situations. Piggyback Webster or Doubront or something like that. Doubront's averaged 6 innings per start since mid-May. |
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Post by soxfanatic on Jul 10, 2013 10:04:02 GMT -5
So Workman it is. Really want him to do well.
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Post by njsox on Jul 10, 2013 11:58:12 GMT -5
Love, love, love the decision to give Workman the first shot in the Sox pen. I think he has a chance to be a solid contributor and with the our rotation presumably set through next year his contributions will have to be in the bullpen with a chance to compete for a spot in the rotation in 2015.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 10, 2013 12:10:07 GMT -5
Of note - the Orioles moved Gausman to the pen last week. He never appeared as a reliever in the minors. And now he's been optioned to the minors after looking great in that role. To me, looks like this may have been pretty short cited on the O's part. Precisely the wrong way to go about it if they're now going to shuttle him back into starting. |
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 10, 2013 14:37:32 GMT -5
Of note - the Orioles moved Gausman to the pen last week. He never appeared as a reliever in the minors. And now he's been optioned to the minors after looking great in that role. To me, looks like this may have been pretty short cited on the O's part. Precisely the wrong way to go about it if they're now going to shuttle him back into starting. Agree totally. Duquette would do things like that when he was here, too. He got very over-anxious micro-managing the roster, running through a lot of guys and really failing to understand sample size. I still think Rudy Pemberton would've been a solid regular if Duquette hadn't given up on him after three weeks in 1997. I'm still bitter about this. There's not really a similar situation on the current Red Sox roster though. Nobody in the system has the upside of Gausman as a starting pitcher. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 10, 2013 14:47:13 GMT -5
And now he's been optioned to the minors after looking great in that role. To me, looks like this may have been pretty short cited on the O's part. Precisely the wrong way to go about it if they're now going to shuttle him back into starting. Agree totally. Duquette would do things like that when he was here, too. He got very over-anxious micro-managing the roster, running through a lot of guys and really failing to understand sample size. I still think Rudy Pemberton would've been a solid regular if Duquette hadn't given up on him after three weeks in 1997. I'm still bitter about this. There's not really a similar situation on the current Red Sox roster though. Nobody in the system has the upside of Gausman as a starting pitcher. There could be a similar situation soon with Webster if some of the people here got their wish. |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 10, 2013 14:48:54 GMT -5
Not of immediate help, but want to mention Matt Price again. His 1st full season after being drafted, plus TJ, then PED issue that was probably related to his wanting to hurry back from TJ. Would like to see him moved to Portland. Hitters have been no challenge to him where he is in his 1st year. The team needs relievers and his age would already be on par (24) with what is appropriate for AA.
Maybe next year even at Pawtucket and help the MLB team if everything went right in a perfect world of course.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 10, 2013 14:56:38 GMT -5
Where is Vincente Padilla these days? He was serviceable.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 10, 2013 15:12:03 GMT -5
Where is Vincente Padilla these days? He was serviceable. He has to play for his mentor.. Bobby Valentine :-) Seriously.. Didn't he sign with some Taiwanese, or Chinese team over the winter? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 16:00:49 GMT -5
The best internal option the Red Sox have to shore up the bullpen is Andrew Bailey. Bailey over the last couple of outings has looked pretty good. Throwing a little harder than before with better location and a nice curveball. If they have gotten him right they have Breslow, Tazawa, Bailey and Uehra to close out games which should be fine as long as they get decent starters. They can always have guys like DelaRosa in the pen in September for a post-season try out.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 10, 2013 16:17:44 GMT -5
The best internal option the Red Sox have to shore up the bullpen is Andrew Bailey. Bailey over the last couple of outings has looked pretty good. Throwing a little harder than before with better location and a nice curveball. If they have gotten him right they have Breslow, Tazawa, Bailey and Uehra to close out games which should be fine as long as they get decent starters. They can always have guys like DelaRosa in the pen in September for a post-season try out. Don't postseason eligible players have to be called up prior to 9/1? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 16:23:41 GMT -5
The best internal option the Red Sox have to shore up the bullpen is Andrew Bailey. Bailey over the last couple of outings has looked pretty good. Throwing a little harder than before with better location and a nice curveball. If they have gotten him right they have Breslow, Tazawa, Bailey and Uehra to close out games which should be fine as long as they get decent starters. They can always have guys like DelaRosa in the pen in September for a post-season try out. Don't postseason eligible players have to be called up prior to 9/1? No they have to be on the 40 man roster prior to 9/1 which DeLaRosa and Britton already are. After that they can be used as an injury replacement for the post-season. I believe that K-Rod was called up September 15, 2002 and was a major factor in the post-season. So yes if the Red Sox wanted to put RDLR in the bullpen for a couple of weeks in September just to see how he did, and then put him on the post-season roster, they could do that. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 10, 2013 16:29:20 GMT -5
Don't postseason eligible players have to be called up prior to 9/1? No they have to be on the 40 man roster prior to 9/1 which DeLaRosa and Britton already are. After that they can be used as an injury replacement for the post-season. I believe that K-Rod was called up September 15, 2002 and was a major factor in the post-season. So yes if the Red Sox wanted to put RDLR in the bullpen for a couple of weeks in September just to see how he did, and then put him on the post-season roster, they could do that. Ah ok. Thanks. |
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Post by okin15 on Jul 10, 2013 16:33:44 GMT -5
do the guys already injured count as guys who could need injury replacements? Miller for example?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 16:44:02 GMT -5
do the guys already injured count as guys who could need injury replacements? Miller for example? Yes. Miller is an injured player and thus can be replaced on the post-season roster with any player who is on the 40 man roster at the end of the season regardless of when they were added to the major league club. So technically they could even put Ranaudo on the post-season roster even if he doesn't pitch in the majors until September. Given his injury history I doubt they would do that though, so we are realistically talking about Britton and DeLaRosa. |
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 10, 2013 17:49:16 GMT -5
The bullpen rotation continues - Aceves and Webster sent down, Beato and Wright called up.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 10, 2013 17:53:34 GMT -5
Not of immediate help, but want to mention Matt Price again. His 1st full season after being drafted, plus TJ, then PED issue that was probably related to his wanting to hurry back from TJ. Would like to see him moved to Portland. Hitters have been no challenge to him where he is in his 1st year. The team needs relievers and his age would already be on par (24) with what is appropriate for AA. Maybe next year even at Pawtucket and help the MLB team if everything went right in a perfect world of course. Is this pure homer speculation or is there anything behind it? |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 10, 2013 19:24:53 GMT -5
The bullpen rotation continues - Aceves and Webster sent down, Beato and Wright called up. Isn't RDLR up to 75 pitches now? Curious they would call up Wright, knowing they probably won't get much of anything out of him and RDLR may be able to get 5 decent innings. No, not hammering on Wright, just little faith he will even go 2-3IP at all without the Sox looking up at Oakland early with a big deficit. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 10, 2013 22:35:39 GMT -5
Not of immediate help, but want to mention Matt Price again. His 1st full season after being drafted, plus TJ, then PED issue that was probably related to his wanting to hurry back from TJ. Would like to see him moved to Portland. Hitters have been no challenge to him where he is in his 1st year. The team needs relievers and his age would already be on par (24) with what is appropriate for AA. Maybe next year even at Pawtucket and help the MLB team if everything went right in a perfect world of course. Is this pure homer speculation or is there anything behind it? Price was suspended for testing positive for marijuana, not PEDs. Good read: www.roanoke.com/sports/virginiatech/1912717-10/baseball-a-blessing-for-salem-red-sox-pitcher.html |
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Post by awall on Jul 16, 2013 11:14:47 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see if Rowland-Smith can come back in time to help.
Apparently he got the all clear from his doctor on July 9th.
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Post by jimoh on Jul 16, 2013 12:18:35 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see if Rowland-Smith can come back in time to help. Apparently he got the all clear from his doctor on July 9th. Abebe Bikila won the 1964 Olympic Marathon 40 days after an emergency appendectomy. But I would think Rowland-Smith's baseball activities would be pretty mellow for the first several days. Rowland-Smith last played June 25. |
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Post by godot on Jul 16, 2013 12:29:36 GMT -5
Hard to get excited about Smith or even mildly optimistic. He has been banging around the minors for the last three years, and is 30, so he should be doing good at AAA. He is left handed though, and even Tony Fossas had a long career.
Sox needs now depends on Clay B and how comfortable they are with the left side of the infield and Napoli's condition. Count me as one who is skeptical about the health of his hip. On the left side, they have to cross their fingers about Drew and whether Iggy's bat can be revived ( me thinks so)
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 16, 2013 12:43:00 GMT -5
Thanks for that Chris and glad it wasn't PED's. always took an interest in players from VPI (Va Tech) Dad went there after "The" war (WW2) under GI Bill and follow their sports programs/athletes some. |
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