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Post by steveofbradenton on Aug 30, 2020 11:43:03 GMT -5
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Post by steveofbradenton on Aug 30, 2020 11:33:15 GMT -5
2018 Rosario
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Post by steveofbradenton on Aug 30, 2020 11:30:51 GMT -5
Here is Rosario 4 years ago. He is definitely bigger now.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Aug 24, 2020 18:18:45 GMT -5
Am I in the minority for wanting to trade Vasquez over Benintendi? Both age, and selling high on V/low on B, tell me Vasquez should be the trade chip. You are not, Steve, I still believe in Beni and don't want them to go that route. I still have hopes that he ends up in center as Bradley's replacement. No doubt not as good defensively, but WILL be a more consistent contributor offensively. He has been disappointing in a short sample this year, but I personally believe next year he will be solid. |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jul 26, 2020 12:27:52 GMT -5
I normally don't get excited by moves like this. Yet I like this move, I actually like it a lot. Yeah I do too! Interesting that the Mets couldn't think of a way to hold on to him. He is more of #5 type starter, but he may eventually be serviceable. I actually like Carson Fullmer also, if that becomes possible. We saw yesterday, that days like the O's beating us can sadly materialize. This season is a reset. We may be #16 for a playoff berth, but let's see what folks can do given a chance. Verdugo should plat everyday...period. Dalbec and Chavis should be getting at-bats. Duran hopefully gets an opportunity over the 2nd half (?). Hard to call 30-games a 2nd half. Lol Just saw the Tigers picked Fullmer up! |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jul 23, 2020 10:33:26 GMT -5
I'm ecstatic for Mookie and ecstatic that the Red Sox don't have a 12-year contract on their books for anyone. No one, and I'm mean no one, should get a 12 year contract. It is totally insane.
I'm on the side that any player who takes up that much payroll on a baseball team is just not worth it. Baseball is, at least, a 25 player game, not counting how important depth has become. In basketball, I can understand a player taking up a huge part of the salary. In football, the only one player who makes that kind of difference is the quarterback. But in baseball? One player (see Mike Trout) is not worth giving them 1/6 to 1/8 of a team's payroll.
Give me a deep line-up of Victorinos anytime! Spread payroll around.
THAT is how I feel, and I can keep going on the Fenway effect compared to Dodger Stadium.
Betts will never have the same season he had in 2018 playing in the American League East with the Dodgers. Is a .295 average with 20+ homeruns sound like a player you even consider giving 30 odd million per year?
The Sox may look bad, to some of you, over the next 2 to 3 years, but they'll look like a genius pretty soon.
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Post by steveofbradenton on May 7, 2020 10:59:38 GMT -5
i would really appreciate it, if someone could give a rational explanation on why so few rounds, and even more so, on why a team can then ONLY offer just $20K for anyone not drafted. In the 1st place, if a team wants to "pass" after the 5th round or the 10th, fine! But why are we limiting the draft so drastically? I know, I know that teams have not been able to see these players since last year, for the most part. Then don't participate after so many rounds, if you want to, but why stop the draft for everyone after 5 rounds? And who the hell came up with the idea a team could only offer $20K for a player not selected. This alone hurts the amount of new talent coming into MLB, and really screws up division 1 baseball also. The only programs/schools happy are the junior colleges. Kids who wanted to play professionally may forgo 4 year schools so they keep options open. In my opinion, the draft should go, at least, 12 rounds, and an organization can pass if they feel to much risk. And also, a team should be able to offer, at least, $50K for an un-drafted kid. I actually prefer $100K. |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Mar 1, 2020 21:14:27 GMT -5
So the minor league games will NO LONGER be involved with the Orioles?  Because of North Port and the Braves? |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Mar 1, 2020 21:08:01 GMT -5
Any information on the minor league spring training schedule? Appreciate it! Reposting one sent to me...  Thanks so much sittingstill!!! |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Mar 1, 2020 20:32:43 GMT -5
Any information on the minor league spring training schedule? Appreciate it!
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Post by steveofbradenton on Feb 14, 2020 15:14:51 GMT -5
Any thoughts on the Sox giving Aaron Sanchez a 2-year deal? It seems like he could be an ideal bounce-back candidate in 2021. Might be a good opener at the end of this season... I like it. Not sure when, or if, he will be ready, but why not....unless his entire career is in jeopardy. |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Feb 14, 2020 15:11:54 GMT -5
All winter I kept hoping Bloom would sign 2 or 3 guys. Several viable pitchers have signed just minor league contracts. Certainly, most if not all won't work out, but I'd like a few more candidates.
Bloom definitely had a lot more important things going on (Cora, Betts, etc.), but would have loved seeing them sign Walker myself. Rooting for Houck, but not holding my breath.
It will certainly be a somewhat weird year for us, but actually becoming intrigued as we get close to the "bell".
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Post by steveofbradenton on Feb 10, 2020 18:13:43 GMT -5
I didn't say it would hurt his value. I said their offensive stats may be pretty close. It is clear now that you did not intend to say it would hurt his value. But as he said, you quoted someone who did say that and you said you agreed. I was replying to both of you. Thanks Chris. |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Feb 10, 2020 15:27:40 GMT -5
WHERE did I say anything like that, James?? cyaz8 said he expects Mookie's numbers to drop, causing him to lose his contract gamble. You said you see it the same way. I didn't say it would hurt his value. I said their offensive stats may be pretty close. |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Feb 10, 2020 15:20:41 GMT -5
Meaning what? Do you think, Chris, that the NL West parks won't potentially hurt Mookie's stats? Do you think any team is unaware that Dodger Stadium plays differently than Fenway Park and is just going to be all "oh his OPS was .885 instead of .915, no reason to pay the man?" His raw stats being lower doesn't hurt his value, that's the entire point of park effects. WHERE did I say anything like that, James?? |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Feb 10, 2020 15:12:40 GMT -5
Every team at this point has an analytics department that's going to be using park- and league-adjusted numbers. We're not still in the days of signing guys based on batting average and RBIs. Meaning what? Do you think, Chris, that the NL West parks won't potentially hurt Mookie's stats? |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Feb 10, 2020 14:32:36 GMT -5
I think Mookie will drop off some offense stats due to change from hitter friendly (home games @ Fenway,Camden Yards, Trop. Stadium, Roger Centre, and Yankees Stadium) to huge pitcher park (home games @ Dodger Stadium, Petco Park, Chase Field, Oracle Park and Coors Field). I think that only Coors will helps him with easy HR like Camden Yards. I won't be too surprise to see him drop off stats and lose his gamble by 12/420 contact he's seeking for as FA. It'll be lower than that. He won't produce more RBI with weak lower #7-9 Dodgers line up. Mookie will miss Fenway and friendly AL hitter parks. I see it the same way. If, and I agree this is an if, Verdugo is healthy, the stats between them offensively may not be as great as some think. Love Betts, but this is different parks that could hurt his numbers. Dodger Stadium itself is more of a pitcher's park, and San Fran is not friendly either. |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Feb 10, 2020 7:36:45 GMT -5
I can't give it an A because they didn't get a starter, but a very solid B+. Might be splitting hairs, but would Dodgers walk away over a Stripling or Ferguson? Yet it makes sense, hard to top Verdugo and Downs. Wong isn't a bad third piece either. Taking everything into account, I'me quite pleased. Watching those videos on Downs...he could be a special player for us in a couple of years! |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Feb 9, 2020 15:35:32 GMT -5
Boy some of you are really tough on Bloom. I'm actually quite impressed. Wait until you see what the final results are, will you!!
Some of you really deserve a Shaunausey. We are on the right track. This had to be done. We will be OK. Take a deep breath, and put down the knife.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Feb 5, 2020 20:09:39 GMT -5
Take a swing at Taijuan Walker. There’s a bunch of upside there. Love this idea. Why not? |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Feb 5, 2020 20:05:51 GMT -5
Brutal. Trade one of the best players your organization has ever produced, who also happens to be a blast to watch (this is entertainment) for an OF who... yawn, sorry I fell asleep. And a 20-year old maybe future closer? They will be lucky if the package produces the value of one more year of Mookie. And, by the way, half-contract Price has the chance to be a steal. Guy is no longer an ace, but he was good last year before getting hurt. As a #3 starter with the Sox sharing the bill, the idea of getting him as an add-in makes me sick. The Sox got pantsed on value, and worse, somethings are beyond measure. A home grown, appealing superstar is not to be traded. Let him walk if he must. How would you have gotten below the cap now and in future years...especially with Mookie wanting 35 per for 12 at 420 Mil? Alternatively what would trading JBJ, JDM, Beni or others save/bring? What kind of lineup or outfield would we have then? Just how high would you be willing to go for Mookie...before it was too much for a homegrown superstar?...or is it at any cost? Devers was more productive than Mookie last year and hits to all fields. If Mookie gets 35 Mil, what should Devers get paid to lock him up for 10-12? We have no sure pitchers in our milb system and have historically been poor at finding/developing them. Our current starters have questions. So how do we add quality starters w/o winning high priced bids?If we did all that, wouldn't we find ourselves right back in the current pickle?.....or who cares, it's Big Bad John's money? And what if Mookie left anyway at year end? Where would we be; how many tickets would we sell; and who would we blame? I'll bet that Mookie's 2019 home hits, superimposed on the Dodger's field would not have yielded as good results as they did at Fenway. He's a lifetime .295 mostly pull hitter playing half his games at Fenway. Not that it's identical but I remember Fred Lynn fell from sainthood after leaving the confines. All day I've been thinking up reasons why this was a good deal. This one point above did not come to me, but let's all think hard about that. We are in this situation because we have continually failed miserably in developing CHEAP young starters. When DD started this scenario by signing Price for $217,000,000 over 7 years, all restraint went out the window. And then, to show he had no idea how we could keep going on this destructive path, DD signs Sale for $145,000,000 and Evoldi (the often injured) for mucho millions also. A team can't field a team with 3 starters making this kind of money, and not run into BIG financial problems. Sarasoxer hit on a BIG reason we need to do a reset and develop our team, especially the pitching, differently. |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Feb 2, 2020 14:44:29 GMT -5
If you've ever looked at the Dodger's 40-man, it is obvious they need another right-handed bat pretty badly. They are severely left-handed!! Take a look at the top bats on their team, who swing from that side:
Gavin Lux
Max Muncy
Corey Seager
Cody Bellinger
Joc Pederson
Alex Verdugo
and then look at their top hitters from the right side:
Will Smith
Justin Turner
A.J. Pollock
Enrique Hernandez
Chris Taylor
Will Smith may be solid, and Justin Turner as been really good for them for several years, but the other 3 are not big producers. They need Betts much more than Verdugo. Their line-up is skewed and out of balance. Our team could actually use another southpaw!
Now Price is another story. Their rotation has a lot of uncertainty, with them probably praying May is ready and able. But I'm with the majority on him. Don't just do a salary dump and get nothing back. It is quite possible he will come back healthy and strong, and maybe give us a rotation that keeps us in the race. And if not and he is healthy....great piece to swap before the deadline.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Feb 2, 2020 12:01:08 GMT -5
I believe Antoni Flores and Durbin Feltman will have huge break-outs! I also like Nick Decker to rise up the list and have a big year in Greenville. But I think Flores, especially, will finally show us what we have felt was inside him.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Feb 1, 2020 19:20:11 GMT -5
I know we are all ready for this to be concluded...one way or the other. Certainly the money aspect is important, but I'm sure the Sox are trying very hard to make sure Verdugo is healthy, and what took him out of action last year, is not a potential recurring injury.
I like Verdugo a lot, and with extra talent coming our way also...I'm hoping this is how things shake out.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jan 31, 2020 14:06:20 GMT -5
Just my two cents, but the risk is the years, not the money. A team like the Sox can overcome almost any short-term contract. Even if you go over the highest tax bracket some years, you know within a few years the money is coming off. When you start talking about deals around 13 years, it's not short-term. Maybe if works out, maybe it's just okay or maybe it kills you for 7-10 years. I'm sorry but that is a risk Sandoval and Ramirez just didn't carry. I'm certainly not anti Betts, I'm anti crazy long deals for any player! I also prefer more chances over a bigger window than going all in for one year. If we had the Padres or Dodgers system I'd feel differently for sure. Yet we don't, losing Betts for a 2nd or 4th round pick could kill us for years. So yeah I'm giddy if we can get a big package for Betts. The kind that gives us a chance this year and makes a huge difference long-term. You don't have to agree, but it isn't crazy! This is totally what I've been saying. NO ONE, in this long of a term, should get that kind of money because it will hurt the organization....for sure. I too love Mookie, but a 12 year contract will turn out poorly for us. A contract like this ham-strings the entire organization. I get that he needs to think about himself, but this is a team game more so than in any sport. Taking up such a large portion of a team's payroll is suicide. I'm excited about the team re-setting the tax. I'm excited about getting some new talent. I'm excited about us getting involved in free agency in 2021. I'm excited about re-building our farm system. Count me out for giving one player 12 years of that kind of money! Read more: forum.soxprospects.com/thread/5288/mookie-betts-trade-return?page=47#ixzz6CdWiFoRf |
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Because of North Port and the Braves? 
