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Post by bigpupp on Jul 3, 2015 21:36:16 GMT -5
Farrell gets a lot of undeserved hate, but leaving Breslow in after they tied it up is indefensible.
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Post by bigpupp on Jul 2, 2015 19:12:01 GMT -5
I think Xander gets it. Wish they had a spot like the NFL does for special teams. Holt would be a sure thing. Didn't they add a spot a few years ago for a utility player?
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Post by bigpupp on Jul 2, 2015 19:00:12 GMT -5
This is why we can't have nice things....
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Post by bigpupp on Jul 2, 2015 18:36:29 GMT -5
So I need a lesson on obstruction calls. In the 2013 World Series Middlebrooks got called for simply being in the way of the runner when there was nothing he could do, and now Mookie is running the bases and he is called for it. Does the rule book say that if there is a weird play, just call it against the Sox?
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Post by bigpupp on Jul 2, 2015 18:23:53 GMT -5
So this is what yesterday felt like for the Jays?
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Post by bigpupp on Jul 2, 2015 1:03:33 GMT -5
Is there a point to this?
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 28, 2015 14:02:12 GMT -5
I haven't been able to watch the game today. I read that Masterson was starting and how it will be the end of the world so I decided to hop in my Doomsday Shelter. Is it safe to come out yet?
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 27, 2015 18:43:48 GMT -5
Is it that much to ask that we can draft and develop one guy who can fill a spot in the bullpen? The record is very poor and that falls directly on the front office. Taz...and that's about it. Shameful. And they didn't even draft Taz. Have to go back to Bard, Papelbon and Delcarmen to find players the Sox have drafted that found sustained success in the bullpen.
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 25, 2015 10:43:41 GMT -5
My guess is that Masterson gets only one start before he is sent to the bullpen and Johnson makes the start after that.
Oh, and any decision that involves Betts not being in CF is the absolute wrong decision.
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 18, 2015 20:39:13 GMT -5
The complaining about not signing these guys even though they were drafted is like lamenting that you didn't buy a Ferrari that you couldn't afford but did test drive. You think, why not? Maybe after the test drive the guy at the dealership would really really like you and decide to give you a discount! But of course, that doesn't actually happen and your Ferrari ends up in Nebraska. Tf there was a chance that Bregman and Boldt could have signed out of high school then they wouldn't have been available to the Red Sox in the first place. Both could have been signed at their price. Boldt was looking for $2.5M I believe, which would have been tough, but not 100% impossible. Not as familiar with Bregman's negotiations, but have to think it was at least on the table. Bregman did not for one second consider signing. There was no "price" for him. A friend of mine taught at his high school when he went there and said he was absolutely infatuated with attending LSU. He was not signing.
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 17, 2015 22:47:50 GMT -5
The same thing is happening to me on a work computer I'm using during the day. I haven't paid much attention to it until I saw this thread, but I know it was happening in the draft thread also.
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 17, 2015 16:08:51 GMT -5
And just because you say it's wrong doesn't mean it is. Michael Ynoa comes to mind as an example when he was added to the 40 man roster of the Athletics but then optioned to single A the next year. As for the Red Sox, just off the top of my head: Felix Doubront, Oscar Tejeda, Drake Britton, and Stolmy Pimentel are all examples of players added to the 40 man roster way before they were major league ready...and that's just within the last few years and only in the Sox organization. So no, you're flat out wrong. And I assume when you tried to deflect my question by using the term "fanboyism" (How old are you, by the way?), that means you weren't able to find a few teams that regularly stays in contention and also trade for players who fit into your narrow set of parameters? Those are very rare situations. Most players placed on the 40 man are close to the majors. So no I am right and you are wrong flat out wrong. You asked me for situations where players far from the majors were acquired by major league teams I gave you two. You claimed that a player who had finished the season previous to being acquired in AAA wasn't close to the majors. How much closer to the majors can a player be? Further you claimed that a player who subsequently DID play in the majors the following season wasn't close to the majors. Instead of just admitting that you engaged in unnecessary personal attacks. The only explanation that I can see for claiming that a player in AAA isn't close to the majors is fanboyism. You are unable to criticize your favorite team or it's front office. Good luck with your pink hat...but you are blocked too. I don't know how to multiquote, but I'll go through each one of your points. "Those are very rare situations. Most players placed on the 40 man are close to the majors."All my examples happened within a few off-seasons, all (except Ynoa) with one team. They are not rare at all. You asked me for situations where players far from the majors were acquired by major league teams I gave you two.I asked for two teams that were going trying to be contenders, you gave me two teams who were not close to being contenders. You claimed that a player who had finished the season previous to being acquired in AAA wasn't close to the majors.My original comment was made prior to the goal-posts being moved. Your original argument stated that the Sox don't acquire players who will not help them compete immediately. Brock Holt did not fit into that category when he was originally acquired. Instead of just admitting that you engaged in unnecessary personal attacksI simply asked how old you were for attacking me. If you take that as an attack then that is on you. Saying "Good luck with your pink hat" sort of helps further my point. Either way, I'll avoid any more messages to you on this and will take this to PM's if you wish.
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 17, 2015 15:20:05 GMT -5
Not true. Most players at risk for being selected in the Rule 5 draft are close to the majors which is why a team might select them in the first place. You can call it goal post moving all you want but players put on the 40 man roster are considered close to the majors. Call it goal post moving all you want, but no amount of fanboyism is going to make you right. And just because you say it's wrong doesn't mean it is. Michael Ynoa comes to mind as an example when he was added to the 40 man roster of the Athletics but then optioned to single A the next year. As for the Red Sox, just off the top of my head: Felix Doubront, Oscar Tejeda, Drake Britton, and Stolmy Pimentel are all examples of players added to the 40 man roster way before they were major league ready...and that's just within the last few years and only in the Sox organization. So no, you're flat out wrong. And I assume when you tried to deflect my question by using the term "fanboyism" (How old are you, by the way?), that means you weren't able to find a few teams that regularly stays in contention and also trade for players who fit into your narrow set of parameters?
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 17, 2015 14:39:14 GMT -5
Players are put on the 40 so they aren't lost to the Rule 5 draft, not necessarily because they are close to the majors. Ed-ro and Holt were absolutely not thought to be close to being ready when they were acquired, and no amount of goal-post moving will change that.
But, if you can lay out crazy specific criteria then I will do the same. Neither the'07 Rangers nor the '12 White Sox were thought to be in contention so they don't fit my criteria for what you should have been looking for. Teams that are thought to be in contention the next year don't make trades that you are suggesting that frequently.
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 17, 2015 14:19:34 GMT -5
I challenge you to find a general manager of another team, whose team is in contention, that makes trades to fit the criteria you just laid out. Because if you're limiting transactions to players who won't help the team within a year and who aren't DFA types then you aren't going to find many deals at all with teams who are trying to compete.
EDIT: Having said that, doesn't Brock Holt meet the standards you laid out when they acquired him?
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 14, 2015 22:13:47 GMT -5
But there's no way Gallo would be available for Buchholz, right?
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 14, 2015 21:01:05 GMT -5
Taking a step back, and without going into whether the Sox should accept it, what teams would be interested in Buchholz and what would those offers realistically look like? I'd think the Texas teams would be interested for sure. I was thinking them and Toronto, but don't know they have that might interest the Sox.
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 14, 2015 20:34:49 GMT -5
Taking a step back, and without going into whether the Sox should accept it, what teams would be interested in Buchholz and what would those offers realistically look like?
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 12, 2015 21:39:05 GMT -5
This thread is more like the old ESPN forum days all we are missing is the Yankee trolls. It might be the only thing worse than watching the Sox.
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 11, 2015 11:49:40 GMT -5
Useless information, but I believe he is the first player drafted by the Red Sox to win that award (it's only been around since 1981). Other winners that have played for the Sox include: John Olerud, J.D. Drew, Jason Varitek, David McCarty, and Andrew Miller (Mark Prior too, but he only played for Pawtucket).
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 10, 2015 22:16:56 GMT -5
I was thinking buchholz, Napoli, Owens and Margot for goldschmidt. Plus we pay the rest of napoli's salary for 2015.
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 9, 2015 18:50:42 GMT -5
Waiting for the obligatory report about Ball changing something in his delivery before this start... He decided to finally throw with his left hand this time.
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 9, 2015 15:10:24 GMT -5
Ben Taylor. He's a Senior Sign, probably close to the minimum. Is there a minimum?
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 9, 2015 14:30:43 GMT -5
We need a definition of Helium. In my opinion, helium guys are like Josh Naylor; guys who were on the radar for a certain spot, but in the days prior to the draft they shoot up and end up getting picked really high. Beninteni is not a helium guy. Sure, he came out of nowhere this season, but a big part of that was because a lot of people didn't know he was draft eligible. He has been mocked to go exactly where he did for a month. Helium doesn't last a month. Also, I'm pretty sure that the triple crown winner in a major conference and the National College Player of the year can't be considered a helium guy. Kolbrin Vitek. Yeah...so he wasn't helium either. In fact, he dropped in the draft. Try again. Edit: We would have accepted Reymond Fuentez, however.
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 9, 2015 13:14:58 GMT -5
I like Benintendi and Rei. Matheny not so much and I would have preferred a HS pitcher there.[/quote Grading the draft three picks in. I'm sure everyonve Loved when the Sox took Jon Denney and all his upside in the 3rd round two years ago. Gotta let all the picks be made and how they Red Sox spread the money around before making a judgement, IMO. I remember the collective fist-pump when David Renfroe was taken in '09. That also didn't turn out very well.
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