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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 21:50:00 GMT -5
He had no choice because of the awful off-season plan. Dombrowski needs to get another arm if Cora won't trust Darwinzon yet. I mean, tonight's game couldn't be any more proof of this. What if Cora doesn't trust every single guy that he trades for? C'mon, that's ridiculous. Cora has no choice but to start trusting the best relievers in the bullpen now also. So it'll be really quickly especially after this game. The fact that he's putting in Walden instead of Darwinzon there tells us all we need to know and where he stands with Darwinzon right now, whether you agree or disagree Jim. I would love to see it too, but I can understand if he's gunshy with the rookie who has 6-10 appearances (less than half coming in the AFL) in a bullpen so far in his total career as a pitcher.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 21:40:00 GMT -5
Cora doesn't trust them for good reasons. They're unproven. You can't say they're already there when the manager doesn't even trust them yet. He needs to start. I mean he trusted Walden and Brasier pretty quickly. He had no choice because of the awful off-season plan. Dombrowski needs to get another arm if Cora won't trust Darwinzon yet. I mean, tonight's game couldn't be any more proof of this.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 21:36:54 GMT -5
Get another high leverage arm before I have a stroke Dombrowski. They're already there in the bullpen, not being used. Josh Taylor is last year's Brasier and Darwinzon might be our rookie Papelbon. Cora doesn't trust them for good reasons. They're unproven. You can't say they're already there when the manager doesn't even trust them yet.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 21:32:16 GMT -5
Get another high leverage arm before I have a stroke Dombrowski.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 21:27:56 GMT -5
Please for the love of god let this game end It's about to win in heartbreak or by barely getting by.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 21:24:50 GMT -5
LOL it comes down to Walden.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 21:18:27 GMT -5
Workman is gassed and the tying run is coming to the plate. Never easy with this bullpen. Got to get that tying run to the plate no matter what. Lol Now the winning run.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 21:15:18 GMT -5
Workman is gassed and the tying run is coming to the plate. Never easy with this bullpen. Got to get that tying run to the plate no matter what. Lol
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 21:11:44 GMT -5
Anyone warming in the Sox bullpen?? The Rays radio broadcast is horrible and they don't keep you informed of nothing. Interesting choice to stick with Workman. All of a sudden, the pen doesn't seem so bad. They're extending Workman in a game they need to have. It's understandable.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 21:02:54 GMT -5
Anyone warming in the Sox bullpen?? The Rays radio broadcast is horrible and they don't keep you informed of nothing.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 20:32:03 GMT -5
I know Workman gets one of the next two innings, but I don't know who gets the other. Darwinzon?!!
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 20:25:35 GMT -5
That was clutch, Vazquez. Please be good bullpen?!!
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 19:14:38 GMT -5
You got to be kidding me Sale.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 18:42:17 GMT -5
Sale has a 2-0 lead. It's up to him to give the Sox his best start of the year with 7 innnings and no runs or 1 run given up.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 18:34:47 GMT -5
Keep up the great play in this game. Chirinos has owned the Sox lineup lately and you got to him early. Can't ask for much more than that.
I really don't want to be a seller this year. Beat the teams you got to beat here. Starting with Tampa.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 18:14:11 GMT -5
They should have optioned Brewer, instead of Marco. They have a million pitchers on this roster and 3 bench players.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 17:24:56 GMT -5
His entire body or work, his overall game, his label on the game as a franchise player, his age when he gets to free agency, and how many teams that have hundreds of millions of dollars to spend will dictate how much money Mookie will get. Not his WAR in one season or another. Harper had 1.3 bWAR in 2018 before cashing in on the second highest contract in MLB history. Harper got the 19th highest contract by AAV, $384K more per year than Ryan Howard. We will see what Mookie does, but he's told the world that he thinks he's worth a certain value. He has shown every hint and indication that this is coming down to total dollars.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 17:01:14 GMT -5
Funny how you make the assumption that no one will pay Mookie top 3 money and then blast anyone for making assumptions. Irony, folks. The point was that he needs another 2018 to be paid that way. Another 6-7 win season and he's not getting more than Arenado. Do you really want to argue with that? Of course you do. His entire body or work, his overall game, his label on the game as a franchise player, his age when he gets to free agency, and how many teams that have hundreds of millions of dollars to spend will dictate how much money Mookie will get. Not his WAR in one season or another. Harper had 1.3 bWAR in 2018 before cashing in on the second highest contract in MLB history.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 16:26:15 GMT -5
No one is going to pay Mookie like a top 3 player in MLB when he's the 3rd best player on the Red Sox. So much stuff is being assumed about him and how much he's going to get it's ridiculous. No one knows. Funny how you make the assumption that no one will pay Mookie top 3 money and then blast anyone for making assumptions. Irony, folks.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 5:48:09 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 5:15:01 GMT -5
Would really like to see the Sox pick up Keon Broxton on a waiver claim. Better platoon splits against LHP. JDM sees ZERO time in the outfield from here on out. He's a burner on the bases and he's a slightly above average defender. Good potential 4th outfielder who can fill the void for a good while until someone displaces him.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 4:50:41 GMT -5
So, one of the things that I find has made these bullpen discussions border on pointless is the way people want to go down each individual and point out how they could be fine. "this guy's been good, and this guy has potential, and maybe this guy will get healthy and that guy will revert to previous form' etc. It's really the way this FO seemed to view the bullpen this offseason, if most things worked out real well, then it should be fine. Eovaldi has never been a closer before, has never been able to stay healthy and may be needed back in the rotation. Hernandez is a kid with control issues. Hembree and Brewer are mediocre at best. Walden, even with an out of nowhere season, is still about average. Taylor and Workman are having career years, Barnes seems fatigued. A small percentage of things could go wrong with these question marks and it could be crippling. A smart organization that's trying to compete goes and gets someone else so that they can survive some things not going right. If people want to just pretend the best-case scenarios are all sure to happen, we can just agree to disagree. Hernandez -- the wild kid who has walked two of the 19 guys he has faced in his first inning of work. Since we understand perfectly why his control is so much better in his first inning ... you tell me, is his having adequate control a best-case scenario? Or a median projection? JFC, 19 batters is a nothing sample size. Im rooting for the kid to be successful, and I think he has a way higher chance at being successful with his stuff ticking up a lot in 1 inning stints, but there is no median projection right now. There's no bullpen sample size in the minors to go off of. He just switched to the bullpen in the minors, made 3 appearances and came up because this bullpen is in "break in case of emergency" mode right now because of the talent situation in the bullpen.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 23, 2019 4:44:46 GMT -5
So, one of the things that I find has made these bullpen discussions border on pointless is the way people want to go down each individual and point out how they could be fine. "this guy's been good, and this guy has potential, and maybe this guy will get healthy and that guy will revert to previous form' etc. It's really the way this FO seemed to view the bullpen this offseason, if most things worked out real well, then it should be fine. Eovaldi has never been a closer before, has never been able to stay healthy and may be needed back in the rotation. Hernandez is a kid with control issues. Hembree and Brewer are mediocre at best. Walden, even with an out of nowhere season, is still about average. Taylor and Workman are having career years, Barnes seems fatigued. A small percentage of things could go wrong with these question marks and it could be crippling. A smart organization that's trying to compete goes and gets someone else so that they can survive some things not going right. If people want to just pretend the best-case scenarios are all sure to happen, we can just agree to disagree. Except that nothing I said was a best-case scenario. It's you who are doing the opposite.
Let's just do Eovaldi. There are scouts who believe he has the best stuff of any pitcher in MLB, and that opinion is defensible when you look at data. Staying healthy after completing a rehab from a non-problematical injury is not a best-case scenario. It's what happens 9 times out of 10. Now, name me the #1/#2 quality starter who was unable to pitch well in relief. It just doesn't happen. First of all, Eovaldi's injuries are problematic. He's an injury risk. That was the number one red flag in his scouting report. The lose bodies in his arm has popped up 2 years in a row now. I hope he's fine, but calling it not problematic? What?!! Second, rehab stint?!! You mean the 2 bullpen side sessions and one rehab appearance? That stint?!! Eovaldi is a number 1 starter?!! On what planet?!! Earth? Maybe Mars, I guess.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 22, 2019 22:44:28 GMT -5
Chavis might be going to the phantom IL to clear roster space here.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 22, 2019 22:43:00 GMT -5
He was already offered 200 million for 8 years by the Sox in their latest extension offer. Mookie comfirmed the report. Teams will be incredibly smart after overpaying for Machado and Harper? Nope unlikely. This shows the opposite. This shows that teams are wiling to pay top dollar for elite free agents while letting the likes of Kimbrel and Khechul rot in free agency. The 8/$200M was offered after the 2017 season, I thought there was a rumor about what he was offered this past offseason though it may not have had a specific dollar tied to it. I think the Sox just settled on a number with Mookie on a one year deal this past off-season. It was the first time they came to a agreement on a contract. The Sox renewed Mookie 2 years prior and went to arbitration the year prior.
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