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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 19, 2019 3:22:31 GMT -5
Those of you looking for bullpen reinforcements might enjoy this slider from Houck. Just nasty. Honestly, my move at the deadline is don't sell or buy. You basically gain a solid couple of arms in Hernandez, Houck, and Eovaldi to shore up the pen. That is extremely risky relying on pitchers with basically zero major league experience and zero bullpen experience. You don't know how they'll bounce back on back to back nights or how they'll adjust to their new roles. I mean, both Darwinzon and Houck *just* switched to the bullpen. Heck, so has Eovaldi. We don't know how he'll do in this role. The one hope is that they (the rookies) miss a ton of bats and the control isn't as big of a problem in this role. The other hope is if Eovaldi can stay healthy enough to make it to the end of 2019. He's had one or two set backs already. I'd trade Houck in a minute for Diaz, for example. Like give me some experience there. Give me someone who we know is healthy, too.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 19, 2019 0:44:04 GMT -5
I think the pitchers didn’t come into the season ready and Sandy wasn’t around so the numbers are skewed against Vazquez when in actuality the pitchers were going to improve no matter what I mean these are pitchers that have won and contended for cy young’s without throwing to Sandy. Basically this is my point- Sandy is a good game caller but at the end of the day he’s a bad Major League Baseball player. I don’t think he deserves nearly as much credit as some give him Sandy Leon is a good MLB backup catcher. He's a bad offensive player. Once Sale and Porcello are pulled from their starts, Sandy will be pinched hit for when behind in games.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 23:08:13 GMT -5
It's the truth though. This has been going on for years now where Leon has had superior catching ERA's. It's the reason why Sale and Porcello are going to throw to Leon from now on, even in the midst of a offensive breakout from Vazquez this year. Some examples July 13 Dodgers 11 Sox 2 Sale starting Leon catching June 26 - White Sox 8 Red Sox 7 Sale 5 runs Leon catching June 7 - Tampa 5 Sox 1 ERod pitching Leon catching June 1 - Yankess 5 Sox 3 Porcello pitching Leon catching So it isn't a black and white thing - all or nothing. forum.soxprospects.com/thread/4708/red-sox-rays-series-thread?page=10"I had to check it and confirm it myself. Vazquez caught Price regularly until July 7th. That was Price's last really bad start. His ERA was all the way up to 4.44 after that start. Ever since Leon has caught him regularly his ERA has dropped to 3.75 after his last start and it keeps dropping with this start. There's something to be said about Vazquez here. If he doesn't call a good game like Leon does, then that drops his value demonstrably. At best Vazquez is a league average catcher hitting wise, if he's not making up for it defensively, then why would you want to keep him past this season?" Soxfan, no matter who's throwing to Leon, they get better results. This was a thread from last year. It showed that Price started to turn his season around once Vazquez went down with the injury. His ERA literally dropped a full run in a month with Leon catching. Now coincided with Porcello's and Sale's ERA this year, it shows that something is *there.* Whether it's just Leon is a awesome game caller or Vazquez isn't a good one or both. When I say this has been going on for two years, I'm not making it up. Sale's off games with Leon probably shows how inconsistent Sale has been this year. The catcher can only call a game, the pitcher still has to execute to a extent.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 22:18:33 GMT -5
It's really not even all that complicated. If Kyrie takes the Celtics to the Finals, he probably gets glorified and praised, and he probably stays. He didn't do that. He instead leaves the city who was extra critical of him all year. He calls his buddy Durant, and the deal is done.
Let's add more fluff to the story to critisize him more as he leaves town. None of this crap comes out if he takes the Celtics to the Finals in his back.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 22:04:45 GMT -5
Paul George forced his way out of a situation by demanding a trade when he just signed a multiple year extension. He basically forced Oklahoma into a rebuild. Yeah. What a guy. Multiple people bashed Lester for taking the most money after saying he would take less to stay, too. Leaving out all the details, I see. So you prefer nothing over like the 15 picks they got for him? Very few people bashed Lester, you don't get hometown discounts after trading a guy. I never said no one did, I didn't leave out anything. Your just on a ramage tonight. People were pissed that he completely walked away from the table after the Sox offered 70 million. Then they were pissed that he took 150 plus million to the Sox 135 million after he said he wanted to be here. It was a player who talked from one side of his mouth to the other. Surprise surprise. I think that OKC would have liked to compete like they originally planned with Westbrook and George and be contenders after he just signed a extension or why sign him in the first place?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 21:35:24 GMT -5
It's the truth though. This has been going on for years now where Leon has had superior catching ERA's.
It's the reason why Sale and Porcello are going to throw to Leon from now on, even in the midst of a offensive breakout from Vazquez this year.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 21:23:44 GMT -5
6.68. I mean, that almost proves too much. There is no way Chris Sale becomes literally the worst starter in baseball just because he's throwing to Vazquez. It proves that Leon is the superior catcher at calling a game.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 21:19:26 GMT -5
Drop in velocity is there, but he's done this in the past. He's also worn down in the past too though.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 21:10:05 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 21:02:02 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 19:09:57 GMT -5
Pedro are you drinking again? Nah, only on weekends lol.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 19:07:38 GMT -5
I'll take an honest guy like George any day of the week over a liar. At least we could have got something for him in trade! I hate bashing a guy if it's for no reason. Like very few people bashed Lester, he gave us no reason to bash him. Irving litterally made himself hated in Boston by his own actions and words. Boston didn't just turn on him because he left, but because of how he acted while he was here. That now includes looking for a new team at the beginning of the season. Like he's upset guys are going out in Miami, but his focus is on finding a new team all season long. Perfect example of a class act is Horford, did anyone bash him? It was a total shock, but I don't think I've seen one negative article about the guy leaving. Paul George forced his way out of a situation by demanding a trade when he just signed a multiple year extension. He basically forced Oklahoma into a rebuild. Yeah. What a guy. Multiple people bashed Lester for taking the most money after saying he would take less to stay, too. Leaving out all the details, I see.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 17:50:30 GMT -5
pedrofan you're sounding like a truther. I get it, you like Irving. I did too at one point. He checked out so hard before the season was over and left the team in such a pathetic way that he'll forever be mocked by Boston sports fans. That's just the way it is. I just hate bashing star players as they leave town. It doesn't make this city look good, when it happens. I certainly didn't blame Jon Lester for leaving. That was all John Henry's mess.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 17:38:04 GMT -5
I'm not telling you to do anything. I'm telling you that this is absolutely ridiculous. Blame the 2019/2020 season on Kyrie while you're at it. I'm not blaming shit on him right now. It's just really shitty to have your star player talking to other players about where they're going next season while they're supposed to be focused on the current season. While he's telling the Celtics and their fans that he's going nowhere out of the other side of his mouth. That you don't feel betrayed by him makes it seem like you're a Kyrie fan, not a Celtics fan. It happens all the time in the NBA where star talent talks from one side of his mouth and does another. It's the league of the NBA. Be thankful he didn't ask to leave while under contract like Paul George did. It's a players league.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 17:35:30 GMT -5
Ohh nothing gets a podcast going than juicy contreversy!! So you've backed off the part where you think that the reporter made it up? Now Irving's new teammate is just making stuff up about him? What? I didn't listen to it because it's garbage.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 17:13:09 GMT -5
Oh what's even better is that it was a freaking podcast with the reporter and Dinwiddie that you can listen to. LOL Spencer Dinwiddie goes inside relationship with Kyrie Irving In a special edition of the Back To Back Pod, Shams Charania talks with Spencer Dinwiddie on how the Nets landed Kyrie Irving, their successful offseason (Kevin Durant) and silver linings of the upcoming season. theathletic.com/podcast/8-back-to-back/?episode=35Ohh nothing gets a podcast going than juicy contreversy!!
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 17:12:00 GMT -5
Who's the one kicking a player once he's gone? Me or you? Who's the one defending him endlessly and telling us what we're allowed to talk about? I'm not telling you to do anything. I'm telling you that this is absolutely ridiculous. Blame the 2019/2020 season on Kyrie while you're at it.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 16:59:36 GMT -5
I don't give a royal shit about Irving, it's all about beating your dead horses into the ground, I guess. EVERYTHING WAS KYRIES FAULT LAST YEAR!! HE'S THE WORST!! THE CELTICS ARE NOW GOING TO THE FINALS BECAUSE HE'S GONE! PROBLEMS ARE NOW OVER IN BOSTON!! IT WAS ALL HIM!! You're acting like a 2 year old FFS. If you don't want to talk about it, then don't offer your opinion. Who's the one kicking a player once he's gone? Me or you?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 16:58:17 GMT -5
Yeah, believe every hearsay f-ing quote from a guy who's friendly with Kyrie now. You're about as gullible as they come Umass. Obviously you don't know what hearsay means. These are direct quotes from a player who had direct conversations with the other player. The quotes were printed by a reporter who was interviewing that player. Direct quotes. If that's what you think hearsay is, then literally nothing ever printed in any newspaper would ever have any credibility. LOL BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU HEAR IF IT'S QUOTED THAT ONE PERSON SAID SOMETHING AND IT COMES FROM ANOTHER MAN'S MOUTH!!!
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 16:53:59 GMT -5
Yeah that's a GREAT way of assuming the truth in everything. You're right. I'm assuming that these very long, very specific quotes were actually said. You're the one saying it's all fiction without any reason for it other than you hate anyone saying anything bad about Irving. I don't give a royal shit about Irving, it's all about beating your dead horses into the ground, I guess. EVERYTHING WAS KYRIES FAULT LAST YEAR!! HE'S THE WORST!! THE CELTICS ARE NOW GOING TO THE FINALS BECAUSE HE'S GONE! PROBLEMS ARE NOW OVER IN BOSTON!! IT WAS ALL HIM!!
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 16:46:38 GMT -5
I think he wrote something that really gets people to read his story. Did he make it up? I expect to see a tweet from Dinwiddie saying that the reporter made it all up. Let me know. Otherwise he said it. Yeah that's a GREAT way of assuming the truth in everything. You're right.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 16:45:36 GMT -5
I think you'll believe anything that casts a shadow on Kyrie when it comes to the connection of Boston and Kyrie Irving. It's from an interview at The Athletic, with direct quotes from a player and now teammate of Irving's. This isn't some unnamed source being reported. If you don't believe that, your the one that doesn't want to know the truth! Yeah, believe every hearsay f-ing quote from a guy who's friendly with Kyrie now. You're about as gullible as they come Umass.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 16:31:13 GMT -5
I heard it from a guy who plays for the Braves. Let me write my story now. So you think that the reporter is making up Dinwiddie's direct quotes when he was interviewing him? I think he wrote something that really gets people to read his story.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 16:30:10 GMT -5
So you think he's lying about a new teammate he has to play with for the next three years? That makes more sense than what he and Bobby Portis said is true to you? That is insane dude. I think you'll believe anything that casts a shadow on Kyrie when it comes to the connection of Boston and Kyrie Irving.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 18, 2019 16:28:17 GMT -5
And I'm Mookie Betts' cousin!!! You don't play for the Braves. That's what would make this comp similar. I heard it from a guy who plays for the Braves. Let me write my story now.
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