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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 27, 2020 13:53:07 GMT -5
Must've got another case of the Ralph's
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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 25, 2020 12:15:24 GMT -5
He certainly isn't faking the condition of his knee. If the pay seems out of line for a coach make him an assistant vice president. The fact that you're asking about paying Pedroia two times more than any other coach making him an assistant vice president just to get him off the salary cap, kind of proves the point that it's a ruse.
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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 25, 2020 11:11:46 GMT -5
No. He's getting his salary, which will be on the books, until he retires. That should not happen until his contract runs out. This still isn't clear to me. What if he retires ? Is his salary then off the books ? And couldn't the Sox then sign him in some coaching capacity and pay him the same amount ? It's not like it would be a ruse. He clearly is never going to play again. At most I could see him getting back into one game so the fans could say goodbye. The fact that you're asking about paying Pedroia two times more than any other coach just to get him off the salary cap, kind of proves the point that it's a ruse.
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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 17, 2020 20:21:28 GMT -5
I'm thinking the table Bloom is using to keep track of the 40man only has 39 rows for some reason, and Weber is forgotten on page 2.
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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 15, 2020 0:15:41 GMT -5
Just don't see how Roenicke is a viable candidate. He's been in the same dugout as Cora for the last 2 years.
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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 14, 2020 10:29:27 GMT -5
How pissed must Bloom be right about now? What are the odds that Bloom would have taken the job if this broke before he was hired. I'd guess slim or none. He does have a chance to be a hero here. He willingly interviewed for the Mets position. I don't think a little turmoil was going to scare him away from a job.
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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 14, 2020 8:49:04 GMT -5
You know what bothers me, beyond the 2 pages of back and forth that wasn't really necessary, is that you are not just voicing your opinion you are actually debating for the Sox getting whacked hard, thus cheering for a bad result for the Sox. To prove you are right you want to see the Sox get slammed and that is not really what I would consider a fan. As has been discussed in other threads this is your MO, being overly negative is what you do regularly. Go ahead and respond if you would like but this is the end of it for me, I won't be going back and forth I will wait for the end result. If I look outside my window and see a tornado coming, I'm going to warn my family and tell them we need to find shelter. If then, someone in the house argues with me and says, "That thing? That's not a tornado," then I'm not all of the sudden "cheering for the tornado" just because I argue with them because they're obviously wrong.
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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 13, 2020 21:18:06 GMT -5
Can you two just make a $100 bet to the Jimmy Fund and and spare us the next few pages of arguing?
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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 13, 2020 20:06:59 GMT -5
Not even remotely close no? Filming from a location that wasn't allowed vs. using cameras and sending signals in game to help your team win if that's true. I was being facetious, but keep in mind we still don't know what Cora actually did. Yes we do. We just don't know what ELSE he did.
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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 13, 2020 15:55:17 GMT -5
With Hinch and Cora fired there's absolutely no way Cora returns. This sucks...
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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 13, 2020 14:34:26 GMT -5
Wasn't really concered about this until I saw what Hinch got....Yeah the Sox are going to get hammered, and Cora might be done entirely.
When do we start the "Who manages the Sox in 2020” thread?
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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 9, 2020 11:36:34 GMT -5
So when does Swihart file suit against the Red Sox? "They held me back because Sandy Leon runs that organization!"
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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 3, 2020 15:53:57 GMT -5
This is doable, like this:
- Alex Verdugo is part of the package.
- The Dodgers pick up the right amount of Price salary to leave the Sox where they want to be, rather than too far under the cap. That means the Sox have to already have in place the moves to spend the money saved, like signing Eric Thames to play 1B, and Chisek for the pen.
- A prospect package so tasty that will project to be a disaster if the Dodgers don't re-sign Betts a year from now ... unless they win a WS with him, in which case they probably won't regret it. They make the trade hoping that one of those things happens.
The idea is, you make a trade that's good in the long run even if you can't re-sign Mookie, even factoring in the reduced chances of making the post-season this year. Depending on how good you project Verdugo to be, the bar for that may be very high, hence bullet point three.
And making that trade and then re-signing Mookie a year from now, which is the plan, is a coup. For one year of Mookie, you've gotten five of Verdugo (to replace JBJ a year from now), and a sexy prospect package, and also recovered some of the money that DDo overspent on Price.
I still don’t understand this perception by the media that Price is some sort of negative asset. There is a difference between offloading salary to get under a threshold and offloading salary that is essentially dead money. The idea of trading Betts and Price for May and salary relief is laughable to me. Price is close to a market value starting pitcher that should have some real value of return because its a limited commodity and Betts even with limited control has real value because of his awesomeness and opportunity to sell him on your franchise. So yes I agree with Eric that a Verdugo plus Gosselin/May and lesser prospects with Boston taking on a smaller portion of Prices contract is very reasonable. I just don’t get why the media pushes Price for essentially nothing like there doing Boston a favor. Price having a close to market deal isn't even close to a reality. Here's some numbers from two pitchers that are the same age: Price, 2017-19: 63 GS, 358 IP, 122 ERA+, 7.8 brWAR Player A, 2017-19: 81 GS, 459 IP, 124 ERA+, 10.5 brWAR Price is owed 3/$96MM, and Player A (Gio Gonzalez) just signed a 1/$5MM deal.
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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 2, 2020 18:02:43 GMT -5
Interesting. No football players on there either.
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Post by swingingbunt on Dec 28, 2019 19:57:30 GMT -5
Those guys are getting 73 million/year combined. Next year Steamer projects them for 13.2 WAR - about $5.6 million per WAR. If you could sign Betts at that rate, that'd be pretty great! Also I don't know why you assume he'll get 13 years as a 28 year old. Harper got that as a 26 year old. Trout got 12 years as a 27 year old. I'd expect 10-11 years for Mookie. I also have come to the conclusion that NO ONE is worth that kind of contract that cripples a team financially. Maybe Trout, but even there one player does not win a championship. I have, a lot, of trouble even with 10 years for $350 mill, and if he can't be satisfied with that...move him. The Sox were paying more than what Mookie will get to have Hanley and Panda NOT play for them, and they still won a championship. Paying Mookie a big contract isn't going to "cripple" them in any way.
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Post by swingingbunt on Dec 11, 2019 1:10:07 GMT -5
I don't believe the Pats were doing anything nefarious, but I'm a fan of the team and will of course believe that. As obvious as it may be to us (especially since teams don't really even use signals anymore), there are still tweets like the one below that make this look worse than it really is. Link to Tweet
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Post by swingingbunt on Dec 11, 2019 0:49:52 GMT -5
Wowza. That's crazy money.
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Post by swingingbunt on Dec 9, 2019 23:01:43 GMT -5
Price isn't a top of the rotation starter, so they wouldn't turn there if they're looking for one.
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Post by swingingbunt on Dec 8, 2019 14:57:16 GMT -5
It's not infallible of course, but I would recommend going to baseballtradevalues.com to see if any trade idea is within the realm of possibility. According to that site Betts is worth +50, Price is worth -60, and Adell is worth +96.4. So to make your trade fair, the Sox would have to come up with over +100 points of value. To be fair, Price being worth -60 is ridiculously stupid. He'd be worth more than 0 if you paid $60 million of the $96 million he has left. $1M is worth 1.0 on that site. Does anyone really think that Price on a 3/$36M contract has zero excess value and that no team would offer anything for him at that price? Fair, but don't miss the forest for the trees. Price and his current contract have a lot of negative trade value, and shouldn't be viewed as a positive in a trade within a lot of money going the other way.
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Post by swingingbunt on Dec 8, 2019 14:23:34 GMT -5
It's not infallible of course, but I would recommend going to baseballtradevalues.com to see if any trade idea is within the realm of possibility. According to that site Betts is worth +50, Price is worth -60, and Adell is worth +96.4.
So to make your trade fair, the Sox would have to come up with over +100 points of value.
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Post by swingingbunt on Dec 4, 2019 1:12:55 GMT -5
Doesn't a split deal mean he gets an opt out as well?
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Post by swingingbunt on Nov 27, 2019 0:12:26 GMT -5
I don’t really get this move. Isn’t BJ exactly the kind of pitching depth we need? The only thing I can think of is that they’re trying to sneak him through waivers over the holidays. Even then, why move him off the 40-man roster if he’s likely going to contribute this season? Unless he’s badly hurt? He's not really "depth" because he can't be sent down to the minors without his consent anymore. He's either up for good or lost. Best to try and sneak him through before the rule 5 draft so he can be used as depth next season.
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Post by swingingbunt on Nov 8, 2019 14:16:56 GMT -5
Not sure if this has already been mentioned but why can’t we trade him and still sign him in FA? If we need to lay out 35 over 10 years anyways then be the highest bidder, save 30 million in 2020 and pony up and get what you can now to retool? This is what I've been leaning towards too. Seems as though he will go to the highest bidder next off-season anyway, so let's get some prospects and reset the luxury tax along the way.
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Post by swingingbunt on Oct 18, 2019 17:44:37 GMT -5
Thank you Lars Anderson
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Post by swingingbunt on Sept 8, 2019 23:21:22 GMT -5
Legit shocked. Won a million games and won a trophy less than a year ago.
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