|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 21:22:18 GMT -5
If Kenley Jansen is right and the baseballs are inconsistent and messed up and difficult to control I'd be very concerned that one of these many flamethrowers will lose control and we could see a serious unintentional beaning. If Jansen is right and these baseballs are difficult to grip this could be a very dangerous thing with worrisome consequences.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 21:17:43 GMT -5
Looking at "paces" this early in the season is kind of next to meaningless unless the fact that the Yankees are on a pace to win 120 actually means something- hint - it doesnt.
2 games ago they were on a pace to finish .500. Just 4 games previous it was a 114 win pace. Now it's 91.
Personally I still think they're a 70 something win team who happens to be off to a respectable 9-7 start.
If the sample size gets a lot larger and they're doing well and the mounting evidence starts pointing in a different direction, then I'll revise my opinion. Haven't really seen anything that dramatically alters my opinion of what I think they are, but like I said if I start seeing mounting evidence to the contrary then I'll revise my opinion accordingly. A 9-7 start isnt a big enough sample size of evidence to sway my original opinion of the team.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 16:18:16 GMT -5
So you would have been cool if they let a generational hitter on a team bereft of offensive talent beat them? I would have been ripshit if Trout got a go ahead hit when they could have walked him. Christ, the 2013 Cardinals lost a freaking world series because they were too stupid to walk David Ortiz. Hell, that's one of the reasons the 67 Sox won - other teams refused to intentionally walk Yaz in key spots and he kept making them pay over and over and over again. In that specific situation: - With runners on 2nd and 3rd, the Angels need a hit to tie the score or go ahead. With the bases loaded a walk ties the score. Kenley hasn't been giving up hits but he has been walking a ton of guys. - The dropoff from Trout to Ward is not that huge. Ward has a 167 wRC+, 25 points lower than Trout. By projections it's similar. But if Ward is coming up with the bases loaded he's obviously more dangerous than Trout with first base open. - SSS and it don't mean much, but Kenley has been good against Trout in the past. As have the Red Sox generally.
I am honestly having trouble here imagining the counterargument to this. It just seems so clear to me that an IBB would have been suicidal there. I don't know about what happened in the '60s with Yaz but in *this* situation, with *this* version of Kenley Jansen on the mound, it would have been insane to intentionally load the bases.
Will have to agree to disagree here. If Cora is thinking I dont trust this guys to throw enough strikes and could issue a walk with the bases loaded then he shouldn't be pitching. Period. Trout is a generational HOF caliber player who is still playing like one. Ward is a guy who is off to a hot start. I'd take my chances with Ward.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:44:55 GMT -5
Alls well that ends well. Jansen isn't right but somehow got out of it. Cora should have had Trout walked but he got away with it.Guess 2 wrongs made a right. If Cora had walked the bases loaded in that situation I would have initiated a personal vendetta against him. It would be passed down through the generation, against his children, and his children's children. So you would have been cool if they let a generational hitter on a team bereft of offensive talent beat them? I would have been ripshit if Trout got a go ahead hit when they could have walked him. Christ, the 2013 Cardinals lost a freaking world series because they were too stupid to walk David Ortiz. Hell, that's one of the reasons the 67 Sox won - other teams refused to intentionally walk Yaz in key spots and he kept making them pay over and over and over again.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:38:10 GMT -5
And if Kenley gave it up Cora would have been roasted and for good reason As the late great Harry Caray was fond of saying, "If ifs and buts were candy & nuts, every day would be fricking* Christmas!" * added for effect. Results are ultimately what matters so good for them, but it was still stupid.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:34:36 GMT -5
And if Kenley gave it up Cora would have been roasted and for good reason
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:33:19 GMT -5
Alls well that ends well. Jansen isn't right but somehow got out of it.
Cora should have had Trout walked but he got away with it.
Guess 2 wrongs made a right.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:30:58 GMT -5
Why not just walk him?
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:30:08 GMT -5
This should be interesting
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:29:16 GMT -5
Living on the edge.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:28:45 GMT -5
Where did the 2b go?
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:27:37 GMT -5
Jansen isn't healthy and it shows. He'll have very limited trade value by July.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:26:54 GMT -5
This ain't going to end well. They were due for a 9th inning meltdown.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:24:38 GMT -5
Koji says, why the hate? I was awesome, not a washed up closer.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 8:43:02 GMT -5
I think midyear 2025 is more realistic. Its not too hard to imagine a lot of mediocrity in 2024 and 2025 but eith the difference being we might see all 3 of Anthony, Mayer, and Teel getting their feet wet in the 2nd half of the 2025 season, kind of like how the back half of 1987 and 2015 went where youth started taking over. They don’t have the luxury of waiting till mid 25. They need to sell tickets and the kids fill immediate needs I’d be stunned if all 3 aren’t up by July 1 this year, just for the business part of it. I would hope that's not how they decide things. If any of the Big 3 are smashing the door down, ok, but if they throw them to the wolves at the sacrifice of needed development time to get butts into the seats, and yes I get the fill the need part, that would be disappointing. I honestly dont think theyd resort to that, but at this point, who knows?
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 0:30:22 GMT -5
I think midyear 2025 is more realistic. Its not too hard to imagine a lot of mediocrity in 2024 and 2025 but eith the difference being we might see all 3 of Anthony, Mayer, and Teel getting their feet wet in the 2nd half of the 2025 season, kind of like how the back half of 1987 and 2015 went where youth started taking over. I wouldn’t it put it past Anthony to push the issue for making the big league team in September if he keeps raking the way he is now. But agree on Mayer probably not coming up until sometime next year — he needs the reps after all the setbacks. Maybe Anthony gets a cup of coffee but I dont think he gets a starting job right away in 25 but yes, there's definitely a non zero possibility that he does, but he's absolutely have to rake to the point the Sox think they have a rookie of the year candidate in 25 to start at the beginning of the year.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 23:43:54 GMT -5
His batting line last year in Greenville and Portland was amazing and I'm confident that he'll be a really good major leaguer. But he still strikes out A LOT--30% in Greenville last year; the same in a very young 2024 season. No matter how hard he hits the ball, he's not going to carry a 400+ BABIP. He still has a lot of development to go. Opening day in 2025 seems overly optimistic. I'd be glad to be wrong. I think midyear 2025 is more realistic. Its not too hard to imagine a lot of mediocrity in 2024 and 2025 but eith the difference being we might see all 3 of Anthony, Mayer, and Teel getting their feet wet in the 2nd half of the 2025 season, kind of like how the back half of 1987 and 2015 went where youth started taking over.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 17:40:08 GMT -5
Woohoo. A neat win.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 17:28:41 GMT -5
These 4 and 5 inning starts are ridiculous. People made fun of "quality" starts because you could get a 4.5 ERA and get a quality start, but you have to complete 6 innings, which has become a rare thing and looks Herculean to what we see now. He was their 8th starter going into the season. I'll take it. I get it. It's just kind of crazy that 4 innings is considered an acceptable start, irregardless of who does it.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 16:45:03 GMT -5
Boy, I'd have tried to steal another inning from Criswell rather than melting the pen for five innings. These 4 and 5 inning starts are ridiculous. People made fun of "quality" starts because you could get a 4.5 ERA and get a quality start, but you have to complete 6 innings, which has become a rare thing and looks Herculean to what we see now.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 15:53:18 GMT -5
The Sox are swinging the bats today.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 15:28:40 GMT -5
Of course too much speed can kill an inning too, lol.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 15:28:10 GMT -5
Speed kills. Screw exit velocity.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 15:18:54 GMT -5
Pablo Reyes getting a hell of a pass imho. Rough year so far. Eduardo Nunez 2.0 Without the World Series HR.
|
|
|
Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 11:19:24 GMT -5
Duran LF Abreu RF Yoshida DH Casas 1B Dalbec 3B Valdez 2B Rafaela CF McGuire C Hamilton SS Hahahaha Edit - Romy on IL for Criswell Look like a 90 win team to me, lol.
|
|